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iMac: Has Apple lost its inovative touch?
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Because I've been called the "fortune teller" before. I figured you were. My apologies.
+1 for that - the single biggest reason I bought my son a computer was so that mine wouldn't have fingerprints on them anymore ("Look, Daddy, it's The Wiggles!")
I've tried using the HP Touchsmart in the store as well - my fingers may be kinda big, but trying to use the touch screen to even open a program was pretty tough - nailing the precise pixel(s) on the screen either takes some getting used to, or smaller fingers.
For me, anyway, touchscreen is an overrated feature (as is Blu-Ray, for the time being).
how bout this for innovative!? lol
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary
I wasn't even aware Sony had dropped into the all in one PC market. How long ago did that happen? and I for one fully support Bluray technology and would have paid for it in the iMac. To those who say it's a niche format you need to step into a Bestbuy and see the Bluray section is as big or bigger than the DVD, at least in my area.
Last time I tried the "iMac killer" I bought myself a Gateway Profile X all in one. Oh my god what a horrible mistake that was. One of my biggest electronic blunders to date.
Last time I tried the "iMac killer" I bought myself a Gateway Profile X all in one. Oh my god what a horrible mistake that was. One of my biggest electronic blunders to date.
Why do people even bring up brand names when it comes to PC's? Plain and simple all companies rip you off.. People who want PC's should learn to build there own or get custom built ones, they are faster, cheaper, and better
this is one of the few things in this thread that i can agree with. you can easily build a PC that is top of the line, 8 core, SLI graphics the whole 9 yards. its really not that difficult. in fact, windows 7 will be scalable enough support up to 256 cores.
I tried playing Solitaire on the Touchsmart at an office supply store, and found it interesting for all of 5 seconds, after which the novelty had worn off. The precision of the touch detection hardware leaves much to be desired, and I found myself tapping rather hard on the screen to get the tap to register as a click rather than just a reposition of the cursor.
After about a minute of scooting my hand all over the screen, I decided that if I really wanted to move my hands that much to play a card game, I'd rather buy a real deck of cards.
When i was first thinking (seriously) about buying an iMac, it was close to the last update. I had heard rumors of a touchscreen. with the UPDATE, there was none. I was a bit disappointed. Seeing the HP model and using at 2 stores, I saw it was neat for the first few times and then thought, "I'd hate to do this all the time."
In fact, when I purchased my iMac, i went to Circuit City and tested the Touchsmart again....uggg. I am very satisfied with the iMac.
as for Blue-Ray...I would have rather liked that addition. knowing I could save more in teh same size discs as a DVD and the "clarity" of images....but I don't have an HDTV or an HDVideo camera either.
In fact, when I purchased my iMac, i went to Circuit City and tested the Touchsmart again....uggg. I am very satisfied with the iMac.
as for Blue-Ray...I would have rather liked that addition. knowing I could save more in teh same size discs as a DVD and the "clarity" of images....but I don't have an HDTV or an HDVideo camera either.
My favorite past time is watching Blu Ray's on my well designed iMac.
Blu-rays are now cheap & everywhere!
All of this talk about it not coming to mac's is a laugh at best! It's the next dvd standard!
Everybody around the world likes the convenience of picking up a movie at a store, or at a gas station
or whatever. Same gose with CD's.
Thier will always be a place for hard media. Music and movie downloads will co egsist.
As for it competing with itunes? Itunes movies are only available in a few countries.
People without blu-ray don't know what thier missing and how big it already is.
There is no excuse for us not being in on the act!
Booting into windows to watch a movie, is the real BAG OF HURT!
Blu-rays are now cheap & everywhere!
All of this talk about it not coming to mac's is a laugh at best! It's the next dvd standard!
Everybody around the world likes the convenience of picking up a movie at a store, or at a gas station
or whatever. Same gose with CD's.
Thier will always be a place for hard media. Music and movie downloads will co egsist.
As for it competing with itunes? Itunes movies are only available in a few countries.
People without blu-ray don't know what thier missing and how big it already is.
There is no excuse for us not being in on the act!
Booting into windows to watch a movie, is the real BAG OF HURT!
Nope.
Fine. 2015 adoption.
Better tell that to the iTunes Store.
So what's their incentive to care?
So boot into Windows or buy a PC.
It's the same as booting into OS X.
A tray like the Mac Pro would be nice.
Nope.
As opposed to... what? What's wrong with these?
When it comes to Blu Ray, I like the storage potential. People often miss that when weighing up if it's useful or useless. 1080p on 24 inch is pointless, no doubt, but 50GB of space on a single disk is attractive.
But then again, a back up external hard drive is better, since it's a lot faster then burning, you can modify the content after and you can get it cheaply (500GB for less then 100$ last time I checked.
Screw Blu-Ray tbh. It's a load of overpriced trash. I can pay £20 for a 50GB disk or £56 for a 500GB external hard disk, not taking into account the extra I have to pay for a Blu-Ray drive. Talk about Blu-Ray when the market has leveled the prices with DVD.
I think what some people here are clearly forgetting is that all this imitation stuff from HP, Sony and Dell is great whilst it lasts. There are people out in the world whose G3 Pismos and G4 Powermacs from before 2000 are still working like they were the day the box was opened. Owning and using a Mac day-in day-out for 5 years is not uncommon amongst Mac users. Find me a PC that will be able to run whatever version of Windows is out in 5-6 years well today.
Apple may well be overpriced for the specs you get (this does not excuse the OP for being a cretin, comparing a year-old iMac specs with brand new MBP specs and saying Apple are con artists for it) but if you bought an iMac today, you'd be able to run OS X 10.8 on it in 5 years time. That means you don't have to buy a Sony VX102GSG-TV (or whatever memorable name they give their computers now) or a Dell Crapspiron 7000000 for at least 5 years - and can you really put a price on that?
I think what some people here are clearly forgetting is that all this imitation stuff from HP, Sony and Dell is great whilst it lasts. There are people out in the world whose G3 Pismos and G4 Powermacs from before 2000 are still working like they were the day the box was opened. Owning and using a Mac day-in day-out for 5 years is not uncommon amongst Mac users. Find me a PC that will be able to run whatever version of Windows is out in 5-6 years well today.
Apple may well be overpriced for the specs you get (this does not excuse the OP for being a cretin, comparing a year-old iMac specs with brand new MBP specs and saying Apple are con artists for it) but if you bought an iMac today, you'd be able to run OS X 10.8 on it in 5 years time. That means you don't have to buy a Sony VX102GSG-TV (or whatever memorable name they give their computers now) or a Dell Crapspiron 7000000 for at least 5 years - and can you really put a price on that?
True but you can't easily pass that HDD to a friend, etc. I have an external 500GB HDD, but still would like the ability to burn 50GB to disc for archiving.
There are a lot of reasons why physical discs won't last:
1. The environment.
2. Downloadable content
3. Having everything in one place (i.e. hard drive not multiple discs laying about the place)
etc, etc, etc. Apple has already got this in mind: MacBook Air.
The iMac will not incorporate a touchscreen because Apple said it doesn't see a way for it to work with computers. As a couple of people have said before in this thread, it strains your sight and your arms. HP's touchscreen isn't very accurate and is very slow.
There are many reasons why the iMac is better, smarter and different than a normal all-in-one PC. Apple are the pioneers of all-in-one desktop home computing.
Ams.
1. The environment.
2. Downloadable content
3. Having everything in one place (i.e. hard drive not multiple discs laying about the place)
etc, etc, etc. Apple has already got this in mind: MacBook Air.
The iMac will not incorporate a touchscreen because Apple said it doesn't see a way for it to work with computers. As a couple of people have said before in this thread, it strains your sight and your arms. HP's touchscreen isn't very accurate and is very slow.
There are many reasons why the iMac is better, smarter and different than a normal all-in-one PC. Apple are the pioneers of all-in-one desktop home computing.
Ams.
Say what?
You do realize that the 24" iMac is > 1080p, right?
Would you rather go down a few steps in resolution?
I sure as hell wouldn't.
It all comes down to the picture quotient.
On a 24" display with your head 1-4ft from the display, 1080p makes sense.
On a 24" display with your head 10ft away, it doesn't.
Displaysize + resolution don't mean jack -- picture quotient + resolution does.
If you have a 32" TV, sitting at 3M distance, that's the same quotient as a 64" TV at 6M.
To fully appreciate 1080p, you need a picture quotient of roughly 20 (display-inches by distance in meters).
1080p on a 46" display means a 2.2 meter distance gives you 20.9.
If you're at a 4ft (1.2M) distance from a 24" display showing 1080p content, that's optimal. Closer, and you'll notice it even more.
Further away, and 1080p isn't really distinguishable from 720p.
1. The iMac isn't a TV. You're sitting two feet from the screen.
2. Some people like screen real-estate to do actual work. Screw Blu-ray.
Why do people even bring up brand names when it comes to PC's? Plain and simple all companies rip you off.. People who want PC's should learn to build there own or get custom built ones, they are faster, cheaper, and better
Please, not everyone wants to speed the time or the energy to build it. Also you're really not going to find a netbook, MID, UMPC you can build your self(or at least that even many geeks would want to tackle as a project)
Plus businesses/school/government organizations, etc need someone to ship their stuff to, have it fixed and get it working, FAST
Please, not everyone wants to speed the time or the energy to build it. Also you're really not going to find a netbook, MID, UMPC you can build your self(or at least that even many geeks would want to tackle as a project)
Plus businesses/school/government organizations, etc need someone to ship their stuff to, have it fixed and get it working, FAST
Fully agreed.
Main reason I switched to Apple computers is because I don't have the time to fiddle anymore -- my time is too valuable.
Once upon a time I built my own x86 servers and desktops.
In other words, I work in "the industry".
When I work, I want to maximize my value to my customers.
They don't care about excuses, and I want to finish tasks as quickly as possible.
When I'm at home, I don't want to work.
I don't need to squeeze 25 extra MHz out of a machine, or make it 10% faster.
Guess what? My time is worth enough that I'd rather spend a little bit of money on a machine that does what I need from the start, not to mention having one MFG be responsible for the entire machine is great for warranty purposes!
If that means spending an extra $500, fine! 500 bucks over three years is 13 bucks per month, or less than fifty cents per day.
I would rather say that (and yes, I know this is at least as inflammatory as Yamcha's comment) anyone who builds their own computer is a cheapskate with too much time on his hands
What?
I don't know about everyone else here, but I've never had a significant problem with Apple hardware.
In the last few years, I've had:
- A G3 tower that I worked like a mule from 1998-2005 with nary an issue.
- A PowerBook G4 that I used every day from 2003-2008 that worked until the day I sold it on this website (and I presume it is still going strong).
- An Airport Extreme base station I got in '03 that still works perfectly.
- An Airport Express that, likewise, still works perfectly two years later.
- An iMac that I bought in November '07 that is still one of the fastest machines I've ever used.
- A Mac Pro my company bought me about a year ago that typically gets about 45 hard hours of work per week
- An iPhone 3G I bought in July '08. It is probably the best tech purchase I've ever made and works better than I ever could have imagined. It is also far tougher than I thought it would be. And un-freaking-scratchable.
- A white MacBook I bought last September that still looks and works like it did the day it came out of the box.
Sure, some people get lemons on occasion and I've probably been a little lucky to have never had a problem with the machines I've bought from Apple, but I think my story is closer to the norm than anyone that says Apple's products are low quality and break easily.