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For those affected by iMac (AL) freezing issues, do you have 3rd party RAM installed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 17.3%
  • No

    Votes: 77 26.6%
  • N/A (not freezing, don't have an aluminum iMac)

    Votes: 162 56.1%

  • Total voters
    289
I've got a freezer with 1GB Apple + 2GB OWC RAM. I haven't tried removing the RAM yet, but am considering it... Would suck to have to trade in performance for reliability.
 
Ok. Stock 10.4.10 erase and install. The only other program added was WoW. Machine is a stock 2.4 20" 320G and the RAM was replaced with a 2G stick from CanadaRAM and a 256MB stick from my mini (Hynex).

Well that doesn't leave much in the way of potential third party software causes.

I'm intrigued by the results of Wakerider's testing with his RAM replacement. I am using a 1GB stick I purchased separately with no issues but it is perfectly matched and very good quality make.

Have you tried replacing your 2G stick with the stick that came with the machine? If you haven't I think that would be worth a try.
 
One thing I am still seeing in Time Machine even with just the apple ram, is like lines flashing across the screen. Not so much artifacts but more like chunks... I guess you could say glitches....

So you are likely down to the normal issue running on Apple RAM alone.

Wish I knew why mine only has graphics glitches with iStat installed, but it did that even before I upgraded the memory.
 
Well that doesn't leave much in the way of potential third party software causes.

I'm intrigued by the results of Wakerider's testing with his RAM replacement. I am using a 1GB stick I purchased separately with no issues but it is perfectly matched and very good quality make.

Have you tried replacing your 2G stick with the stick that came with the machine? If you haven't I think that would be worth a try.

Might do that. The memory was thoroughly tested, however.
 
I've got a freezer with 1GB Apple + 2GB OWC RAM. I haven't tried removing the RAM yet, but am considering it... Would suck to have to trade in performance for reliability.

Try it, I can't get the computer to freeze with apple memory. no matter how hard I try.
 
So you are likely down to the normal issue running on Apple RAM alone.

Wish I knew why mine only has graphics glitches with iStat installed, but it did that even before I upgraded the memory.

That doesn't sound good at all. The last time I recall "blocks" on the screen, lines and artifacting was when I had a bad logic board on my 20" Core Duo. I was told it may have actually just been a case of the GPU having worked slightly loose from the logic board due to excessive heat.
 
I have third party memory and have never experienced a freeze.
Slot One- Apple 1GB
Slot Two- Patriot 2GB (this isnt even high quality RAM, so i'm a little surprised, isnt crucial better?)

2.4 24" 320GB stock model
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro:
Chipset Model: ATI,RadeonHD2600
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9583
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B2250F-212
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.212
 
My 24" was ordered on 8/7 (release date) and manufactured between 8/13-8/19. I have not had any freezing issues at all to date in either Tiger or now in Leopard. I've tried doing some of the things that some experiencing this problem say cause their iMacs to freeze such as switching around the menus in Front Row, etc and running screensavers and no freezing, no artifacting, no problems.

I installed the 1.3 iMac Update because I always install all driver/firmware updates that Apple releases and can notice no changes at all.

I know this problem exists for quite a few folks and I AM extremely sympathetic and DO care. I still wonder if this is a software or a hardware issue though. Maybe we should start comparing what software we are all running on our systems to see if there might be some common factor on those WITH the problem as opposed to those without.

I'd be glad to help any way I can. I can understand how frustrating it must be.

I ordered this machine with 1x1GB of RAM and have upgraded it to 2GB with 1GB I purchased a while back and had been using in my previous 20" Core Duo iMac.

Same here. 2.8GHz iMac w/4GB OWC ram. No problems before or after Leopard. I've also tried to create a freeze using the methods others have suggested. Installed the update and still, no issues.

For the record, this IS my second iMac. The first one I bought had the dreaded dead pixel issues.

I'm help in any way possible as well (comparisons, etc.)
 
So if we have an iMac that's not experiencing freezes this update wouldn't possibly make it actually START freezing would it? I wouldn't want to screw up a good thing I've got going, haha!!

I hope I don't jinx myself, but I didn't have any freezes/artifacts before the update, and none after the update either. Running a 24" 2.8Ghz.

Edit: Using 1 GB Apple RAM, 2 GB Corsair RAM
 
That doesn't sound good at all. The last time I recall "blocks" on the screen, lines and artifacting was when I had a bad logic board on my 20" Core Duo. I was told it may have actually just been a case of the GPU having worked slightly loose from the logic board due to excessive heat.

Nope, wasn't HW -- it was software, since it would occur after login only. and not with a clean user.

Edit: most likely a conflict with iStat and an early carbon app, neither of which I'm using right now.
 
My 2.4Ghz 24" iMac is now completely unusable. I have Leopard installed on it, and it freezes immediately when the computer desktop appears. It tries to render the stacks on my dock and that is now enough to kill it.

I have Tiger w/o any iMac Software Updates on an external firewire drive, and that is what I am using to send this. This installation continues to be rock solid.
 
My 2.4Ghz 24" iMac is now completely unusable. I have Leopard installed on it, and it freezes immediately when the computer desktop appears. It tries to render the stacks on my dock and that is now enough to kill it.

I have Tiger w/o any iMac Software Updates on an external firewire drive, and that is what I am using to send this. This installation continues to be rock solid.

I bet you have aftermarket RAM...
 
I bet you have aftermarket RAM...

I doubt that anyone with 4GB doesn't have aftermarket RAM because of Apple's insane price, but I still find it hard to believe that the RAM is causing all the issues. There are posts above showing people with Aftermarket RAM without the Lock-ups.
 
I do... I have two 2GB corsair sticks. I have let memtest86+ and memtest run for hours while at work, on several occasions, and neither tester has ever found any errors with the RAM.

http://matt.ucc.asn.au/memtest/
http://www.memtestosx.org/

The faulty-RAM theory doesn't make sense to me here - why would Tiger work without any issues for djc6, but Leopard fail? If it was faulty RAM, surely this would affect both OSs?
 
The faulty-RAM theory doesn't make sense to me here - why would Tiger work without any issues for djc6, but Leopard fail? If it was faulty RAM, surely this would affect both OSs?

Exactly. I still believe that the Graphic Card is faulty, and the updates corrupted it even further. I really think it's nothing to do with the RAM.

Still can't understand why wakerider017's iMac got fixed by removing the RAM though.
 
i guess i will clone this drive with super duper and try it out on the clone 1st. if it freezes, i am loading it onto my main drive and taking this thing back. i'm sick of this crap already. i knew going with those crappy ati cards was bad news.
 
Exactly. I still believe that the Graphic Card is faulty, and the updates corrupted it even further. I really think it's nothing to do with the RAM.

Still can't understand why wakerider017's iMac got fixed by removing the RAM though.

But by the same token - if the graphics card is faulty, how does one explain how Leopard is a complete disaster on my iMac 24" (constant lock-ups), but Windows XP works just fine? Surely a faulty graphics card would take both down?
 
Nope, wasn't HW -- it was software, since it would occur after login only. and not with a clean user.

Edit: most likely a conflict with iStat and an early carbon app, neither of which I'm using right now.

Yeah, my machine with the logic board problem wouldn't even make it through the boot process most times. If it did get to the login screen it almost always had the lines and artifacts there as well and if it didn't they appeared as soon as I hit the login button.

I'm using iStat here as well. I just updated to the new version released yesterday.
 
My vote is on...

My money is on the graphics card, maybe the drivers?

From my experience, I had artifacts like white dots stuck on screen, fuzzy small colour pixels and then white pixel streaks going across the screen. It did this under Tiger before I installed Leopard and it is still doing it under Leopard with after market memory added.

My vote is on crappy drivers, perhaps one reason Apple should have stayed with Nvidia? However, having said this either way one would expect Apple to sort it out in time... last thing they want is bad press and/or recalls.


Steken
 
I just downloaded the Software Update tonight and I just got another freeze when I tried to open up Safari in the dock so I had to reboot my computer. I have a new 24 inch IMac computer.
 
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