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ValiumEater

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My earphones cost more than the phone itself and they have a headphone jack, so I'll use the adapter, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Luckily the quad-driver buds themselves are removable so hopefully Shure will come out with a lightning cable for them soon.
 

Mac 128

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If you haven't figured it out yet, we're never going to see another headphone jack on an iPhone again. Not unless sales lag horribly or bluetooth dies all of a sudden. Apple doesn't make these decisions lightly, and has never gone back on any port changes in the past (FireWire, 30-pin, floppy, CD-Drive).
Wireless is the future. This is just the beginning.

That's not exactly true ... Apple put the physical controls back on the iPod Shuffle after the 3rd generation which removed them completely. But the bigger back-step was Firewire on the Unibody MacBook. They removed the Firewire port on the first aluminum unibody MacBook, which replaced the original white MacBook, but then returned it to the upgraded 13" MacBook Pro, and reintroduced the plastic unibody MacBook with the Firewire port.

So it's rare, but it happens. My guess is if Apple did this, they would try to save face somehow by adding the port back to the Plus model since it should have sufficient room to accommodate it, or they will offer a separate SKU which has it, but in limited color and RAM and storage choices.
 

VSMacOne

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That's not exactly true ... Apple put the physical controls back on the iPod Shuffle after the 3rd generation which removed them completely. But the bigger back-step was Firewire on the Unibody MacBook. They removed the Firewire port on the first aluminum unibody MacBook, which replaced the original white MacBook, but then returned it to the upgraded 13" MacBook Pro, and reintroduced the plastic unibody MacBook with the Firewire port.

So it's rare, but it happens. My guess is if Apple did this, they would try to save face somehow by adding the port back to the Plus model since it should have sufficient room to accommodate it, or they will offer a separate SKU which has it, but in limited color and RAM and storage choices.
You sir, are correct.
However I still think when you add waterproofing and the need for a bigger battery in the Plus, it's not likely that we'll see them walk this one back. Especially when you consider the fact that Bluetooth headphone sales overtook 3.5mm headphone sales this summer... I think they're ahead of the curve here.
 
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Aibocyrus

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I just now am responding to this thread, but I have to say.... There won't really be an impact for me. However, I would like to see uniformity between chargers among all apple products. It would be nice in all honesty
 

01silver4

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Funny that people think BT technology is a good solution. The audio quality isn't that good. I tried it before with my Retina Macbook Pro and my iPhone 6S plus.
My jaybirds are pretty awesome, i cant tell the difference between it my wired earphones.
 

dreamover

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My earphones cost more than the phone itself and they have a headphone jack, so I'll use the adapter, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Luckily the quad-driver buds themselves are removable so hopefully Shure will come out with a lightning cable for them soon.
rumor has it this is happening.
 

Switchback666

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My earphones cost more than the phone itself and they have a headphone jack, so I'll use the adapter, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Luckily the quad-driver buds themselves are removable so hopefully Shure will come out with a lightning cable for them soon.

I hope UE does the same, release a lighting cable connection but dont know what is the situation with apple about it.
 

soundwarp

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I've had the adapter for the past few hours now and it's honestly not that bad, you barely notice it. Controls still work if you have them on the cord and it sounds about the same I can't tell the difference.
 

rkstar71

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There was a time way back in 1999 with the introduction of the iMac that Apple removed the 3.5" floppy disk.

The Apple community at the time screamed bloody murder and buried Apple with negative publicity.

Apple survived.

They will survive this too.

PS. You have to wonder about those who want the iPhone but can't let go of the 19th century technology that is the headphone jack.
I use the headphone jack to listen to my music in the car. I guess with iphone 7 I'll have to listen to the car engine. Can't listen through my car without the headphone jack.
 

RebornProphet

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That's fair enough - a lot of the people that don't want it either don't use it or are Apple fanboys that agree with everything they do, saying that it is aging technology and we need to move on. Even though there are some that don't use it very often, there are a significant portion of their customers that do.

I use the headphone socket on my 6 everyday while commuting and have done my 5s, 4s, 4, and 3G before it.

Am I bothered by the removal of the jack? No.

Why? Because the adapter is in the box for the short term and long term I'll get Bluetooth headphones (not AirPods, I'm not paying Apple £150 for a pair of their headphones).

I'd rather have newer tech in my phone. Now the experiment could fail and Apple could be forced to eat a huge piece of humble pie but, like the 3.5" floppy, the optical drive and the 30 pin connector I think we'll adapt and look back thinking, "What's all the fuss about"?
 

daviddth

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I use the headphone jack to listen to my music in the car. I guess with iphone 7 I'll have to listen to the car engine. Can't listen through my car without the headphone jack.

Buy a cheap Bluetooth receiver and wire the car to that, then play over Bluetooth? Yeah it's not ideal but it will work. Just power the Bluetooth receiver from your cigarette lighter all the time. I plan on doing this in the shed where I currently use a cable to listen to music a lot
 

eyoungren

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I use the headphone jack to listen to my music in the car. I guess with iphone 7 I'll have to listen to the car engine. Can't listen through my car without the headphone jack.
I get that. I still have a 6s+ with a headphone jack. But my use of the jack is minimal.

Depending on how much or how little you use the headphone jack this means either more or less to you.

Personally, if I had the money, I'd like to find a radio/BT type thing that actually works. I tried one in my Honda (1997) but could never get it to work with the radio. That said, again, I don't use this stuff much. In my car I am usually listening to the radio itself if I want music.

I guess a large part of this for me is that I hate earbuds, earpods, etc. Having them in my ears for any length of time make my ears start to ache and I really don't care for that. I usually listen to music without headphones or by using the headphone jack.
 

piecookie

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Oct 22, 2012
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I'll just put the adapter permanently on my daily-headphones, that way I'll never forget it =)
 

Qbnkelt

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Oct 15, 2015
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I use the headphone jack to listen to my music in the car. I guess with iphone 7 I'll have to listen to the car engine. Can't listen through my car without the headphone jack.

Really? So in the absence of listening with your headphone (which is illegal in some places) you could not find a radio station to listen to and would prefer listening to the engine? Heck If things were that drastic I'd listen through the speakers.
 

daijholt

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Jun 14, 2013
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Funny that people think BT technology is a good solution. The audio quality isn't that good. I tried it before with my Retina Macbook Pro and my iPhone 6S plus.
100% confirm that that the sound quality on my PowerBeats2 Wireless is far better than on my wired URBeats. It's a night and day difference. Bluetooth has its limitations, but its definitely the way to go. Hopefully now manufactures can start innovating the bluetooth standard.
 

Chew Toy McCoy

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Just got my first pair of over the ear Bluetooth headphones for $80 the other day. The sound quality is on pair with my other wired headphones in that price range. 40 hour battery life. Extremely light weight partially due to a cable not dragging them down. Auto pairing to multiple devices or computers. Also comes with a cable if the battery dies. Its glorious running around the room without worrying about a cable or having the device on me.


In summary: Thanks Apple for forcing this on me. I admit I would have lagged if you didn’t or would ignorantly assume Bluetooth tech is still as crappy as it was early on. I feel like the future is now.
 

palmerc2

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Feb 29, 2008
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I personally use the headphone jack, and charge the phone, all the time. I travel most of the year, and on the long train / bus / plane rides, I'll listen to audio and charge my phone at the same time with a battery bank.

However, with the advances in bluetooth sound technology, I've been looking into bluetooth headphones. Only drawback I see is when you go to a friends place who has an audio jack, unless you or your friend has an adapter and no wireless option, you wouldn't be able to play music / audio from your device.
 
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