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Impacts of removing the headphone jack [MERGED]
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I'm one of the outliers. I am skipping the upgrade this time around just due to removing the jack. I travel a lot and also like IEMs, so have a few custom IEMs, a couple non-custom IEMs, and a few custom cords I bought just for my IEMs. Keeping track of another dongle is not something I look forward too.
but its never coming back so, youre gonna have to upgrade eventually. im glad they removed it tbh. old tech. see how samsung is now following suit with their S8
Yeah, But Apple could have put a left-handed glow-in-the-dark nostril inhaler with your state motto on it (that's for the old George Carlin fans) in the iPhone 7 and you'd find that in the S8.
If Samsung pulls this **** they're also out. Although my s7 is still holding strong.
I won't support this from any of the manufacturers. I have an iem hobby and the phone with a good dac (the s7 is that) and large storage is my main player.
I'll support Google or other manufacturers. There's no excuse for this inconvenience, the s7 and iphone 6s are fine phones and I needed an excuse to skip the next few upgrade cycles hehehe
I wonder whether it supports sound out, or also sound in?
Seems to me a case with a built-in 3.5mm jack would be more practical, and it would solve the issue of being able to charge and listen for some. On the other hand, maybe adding a second Lightning port would solve that problem too.
It's bad to hear how some people hard accept innovation.
Simply there are no more place for headphone jack on new futuristic cell phones.
Not because small place, because jack look bad and old and wireless connection is future.
I had same problem with walkman cable before 20 years and doubts how to keep cable under shirt or normal...
Anyway iPhone 6s 128GB could serve to people until they adopt to wireless headphones or even better some stores offer some adapter. But generaly is better because iPhone 7 bottom is clean and no hole for headphones.
Critics arrive a lot from Androids fans and sellers.
I look bottom of my iPhone SE. It would be much nicer without headphone holes.
I only agree price of Airpods should be exactly 100$... 160$ is to much.
Because go up to 180-190 euro.
Simply there are no more place for headphone jack on new futuristic cell phones.
Not because small place, because jack look bad and old and wireless connection is future.
I had same problem with walkman cable before 20 years and doubts how to keep cable under shirt or normal...
Anyway iPhone 6s 128GB could serve to people until they adopt to wireless headphones or even better some stores offer some adapter. But generaly is better because iPhone 7 bottom is clean and no hole for headphones.
Critics arrive a lot from Androids fans and sellers.
I look bottom of my iPhone SE. It would be much nicer without headphone holes.
I only agree price of Airpods should be exactly 100$... 160$ is to much.
Because go up to 180-190 euro.
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It's bad to hear how some people hard accept innovation.
Simply there are no more place for headphone jack on new futuristic cell phones.
Not because small place, because jack look bad and old and wireless connection is future.
I had same problem with walkman cable before 20 years and doubts how to keep cable under shirt or normal...
Anyway iPhone 6s 128GB could serve to people until they adopt to wireless headphones or even better some stores offer some adapter. But generaly is better because iPhone 7 bottom is clean and no hole for headphones.
Critics arrive a lot from Androids fans and sellers.
I look bottom of my iPhone SE. It would be much nicer without headphone holes.
I only agree price of Airpods should be exactly 100$... 160$ is to much.
Because go up to 180-190 euro.
I don't see the innovation. iPhones and other smartphones have been compatible with wireless headphones for several years now. This is just the removal of a feature without adding anything except for the need to charge your headphones now, and arguably worse audio quality. I can't say that I've ever found the presence of a 3.5mm hole to be that offensive. I get that Apple is all about minimizing ports to make everything as "clean" as possible, but I don't know if that's really innovative.
Look, I am not going to go into an argument on an online forum about whether Apple are innovating or not.
All I am going to say is that I have owned each main and S iPhone that was released in my country. (The iPhone 3G through to the iPhone 6S except the iPhone 5C and the SE). That I didn't upgrade says a lot because I have Bipolar type I Disorder and went through a manic state late this year which included a huge thousands of dollars spending spree, typical of mania induced mood episodes. I did get a Macbook Air 2015 version, but it has a headphone port
I flirted with the idea of upgrading to the iPhone 7 256GB but even in my most impulse-driven state I couldn't justify losing the headphone port. It's no ones business why I like it so much, and I find it offensive to be called old fashioned because I want that port in my phone. If I were "old fashioned" I would not have bought my first iPhone in 2008, opting instead to use my Nokia 3300.
Some people such as myself, don't like this courage Apple is trying to push through and that's sad because I used to love getting the new iPhone and this time I don't even want it. I can assume people who have paid loads of money on an iPhone are going to quietly justify their purchase even if they are annoyed, while the adapters, and dongles, and the lack of charging while listening to music starts to sink in. For the people who looooooove this fancy new futuristic forward-thinking decision, they probably assume they were right all along, I can see it in the proud and arrogant posts littered across this thread and also on reddit.
I'll be happy with my 6S thanks.
All I am going to say is that I have owned each main and S iPhone that was released in my country. (The iPhone 3G through to the iPhone 6S except the iPhone 5C and the SE). That I didn't upgrade says a lot because I have Bipolar type I Disorder and went through a manic state late this year which included a huge thousands of dollars spending spree, typical of mania induced mood episodes. I did get a Macbook Air 2015 version, but it has a headphone port
I flirted with the idea of upgrading to the iPhone 7 256GB but even in my most impulse-driven state I couldn't justify losing the headphone port. It's no ones business why I like it so much, and I find it offensive to be called old fashioned because I want that port in my phone. If I were "old fashioned" I would not have bought my first iPhone in 2008, opting instead to use my Nokia 3300.
Some people such as myself, don't like this courage Apple is trying to push through and that's sad because I used to love getting the new iPhone and this time I don't even want it. I can assume people who have paid loads of money on an iPhone are going to quietly justify their purchase even if they are annoyed, while the adapters, and dongles, and the lack of charging while listening to music starts to sink in. For the people who looooooove this fancy new futuristic forward-thinking decision, they probably assume they were right all along, I can see it in the proud and arrogant posts littered across this thread and also on reddit.
I'll be happy with my 6S thanks.
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For me personally, I've realized this isn't a big deal at all as I've been using Bluetooth headphones for about two years now. My only issue before was battery life on BT headsets, and now with the 40 hours on the Solo 3s I don't have to worry about that anymore.
In the rare instances when I need to use the headphone jack (like for aux in someone's car) I bring the small adapter with me.
In the rare instances when I need to use the headphone jack (like for aux in someone's car) I bring the small adapter with me.
Going to buy powerbeats 3 and maybe airpods too and once I do I can't see myself ever using wired headphones again.
Wires are so annoying when working out and even walking the dog it's a pain
Wires are so annoying when working out and even walking the dog it's a pain
I'm going to ignore the whole prior conversation and just answer the topic question.
Implications of removing the headphone jack for me? A bloody pain in the ass.
The first month I muddled through with the headphone adapter and the Bose QC20i headphones I'd happily used up until that point. In that month I broke 1 adapter and had to use my spare. Not expensive but an inconvenience.
It was really annoying having to constantly take the adapter on and off as I switched devices. I pretty much had my groove with those so it was frustrating that it caused so much aggravation.
I replaced my QC20i's with a set of QC30 bluetooth in ear neckband headphones and although this has fixed the iPhone 7 problem, I've now had to bring a separate set of headphones to work to connect to my work laptop so I've kind swapped one pain for another. In other instances it has led to general frustration when trying to hook my phone up to a friends car and a friends soundsystem at their house that used an AUX cable when I didn't have the adapter on me. Thankfully my car already had a lightning connection so dodged a bullet there.
All in all the sound quality has gone down for me, it has been a disappointing transition to the future and as much as I like my headphones the sound quality does seem to be worse.
Oh well, my fault for desperately wanting to upgrade to the 7 Plus from the 6 Plus.
Implications of removing the headphone jack for me? A bloody pain in the ass.
The first month I muddled through with the headphone adapter and the Bose QC20i headphones I'd happily used up until that point. In that month I broke 1 adapter and had to use my spare. Not expensive but an inconvenience.
It was really annoying having to constantly take the adapter on and off as I switched devices. I pretty much had my groove with those so it was frustrating that it caused so much aggravation.
I replaced my QC20i's with a set of QC30 bluetooth in ear neckband headphones and although this has fixed the iPhone 7 problem, I've now had to bring a separate set of headphones to work to connect to my work laptop so I've kind swapped one pain for another. In other instances it has led to general frustration when trying to hook my phone up to a friends car and a friends soundsystem at their house that used an AUX cable when I didn't have the adapter on me. Thankfully my car already had a lightning connection so dodged a bullet there.
All in all the sound quality has gone down for me, it has been a disappointing transition to the future and as much as I like my headphones the sound quality does seem to be worse.
Oh well, my fault for desperately wanting to upgrade to the 7 Plus from the 6 Plus.
I don't follow your BT problem ... Why can't you use the BT headphones with your laptop as well? If you have some antiquated laptop without BT, why carry around a second set of headphones for it? Just leave them at work?
The aux cable dilemma is going to be a problem until everyone embraces wireless, but why not leave the adapter in your car, so you always have it? Not defending Apple here, just providing a simple solution to an obvious problem during the transition to a wireless future. There are also some iPhone cases which have a built-in slot for an adapter so you always have it. Might be a good option for you.
The sound quality out of the iPhone Lightning port is going to be as high or higher than the headphone jack, depending on what adapter you're using. BT has always been and will likely be for some time, worse than wired. Nothing to be done about that. If you want high quality audio and native convenience, the iPhone 7 is likely not for you.
As for breaking the adapter, how did that happen out of curiosity? Did the Lightning connector break, or did you tear the cable apart? Curious as to which part of he adapter failed and how ...
Heya, as for the aux cable on the laptop, unfortunately we are locked out from any form of connection other than the analogue mic in and mic out. So although it's a top of the range laptop they are heavily locked down and bluetooth devices, wi-fi etc are blocked (wi-fi does connect to pre-approved networks though).
I just don't like having to have a different set of headphones at work as I do 90% of the time, and where my laptop goes there the other headphones have to go.
As for BT vs Lightning, yes I get that wired is better, but equally I genuinely find the non BT headphones too much hassle with the adapter- just my preference.
The adapter broke in the actual cable section from what I could tell. The connection used to cut out a lot and the buttons even activated without me touching them on the headphones. Replacing the adapter fixed the problem (i tried the broken adapter on a set of old apple headphones and had the same issue so it was the adapter that was faulty)
Interesting, so no laptop bag to store the headphones in, along with power supply and dongles necessary to access certain things with such a locked down laptop? It sounds like you have a PC, but one of my biggest criticisms of the Lightning EarPods is the fact there's no adapter to use them with anything else, including the Mac. That leaves the adapter for the phone which is what most people use most of the time. I don't the see adapter as that big a deal, having purchased one the day they were available to evaluate on my SE; but I do understand it is not optimal, and so does Apple which is why they bothered to create the AirPods in the first place, or work closely with Belkin to develop a splitter to allow charging and listening at the same time before anyone else even had an iPhone 7 to know they would need that.
As for the adaptor itself, I was surprised and a bit shocked that the wire was so flimsy. Given how short the pigtail is, and how much more it would be twisted, bent, and compressed as a result, I would have expected a much more substantial cable. I suspect if Apple continues to put the adapter in the box, we might see some improvements in durability, in much the same way we saw improvements to MagSafe after those original cables began to prematurely fray, short and start fires.
But Apple did have to put the adapter in the box, not just for people who already had a pair of nice headphones they'd invested in, but because the wireless alternatives were not ready, and not just ready at the launch, but for well into a third of the iPhone 7's flagship status on the market.
This is not Apple vision of future... and how time pass abandon of heaphone jack will have more sense.
That's 2000 not 2020.
This picture reminds me what an inconvenience, wired headsets can be. The constant chance that your phone can go flying, violent unintentional disconnects, and not being able to physically stray while your phone is stationery.
That alone, sends my OCD into hyper drive. Fairwell, 3.5mm headphone jack tell Beta-max & HD-DVD I said what's up when you get there!!!
Seriously, we should embrace Apple, not jeer them.
What about that image suggests there might be violent unintentional disconnects? I can see this reasoning on a treadmill or something but here? The woman looks to be in a conference call or just talking to a friend. I see no reason why she should get horribly tangled in her cable to the point that anything goes flyin unless she is somehow the clumsiest person on the planet, in which case the cracks in the pavement probably pose a greater threat.
For my needs we will see how bluetooth evolves into a better sport product. Right now there isn't anything that stays put in my ears as well as a $40 yurbuds set. There is the risk of a violent disconnect on the treadmill there, but it's a tradeoff for something that will stay in my ears when I sweat. Unfortunately for me it's a step back, but I recognize that's not the case for everyone.
For my needs we will see how bluetooth evolves into a better sport product. Right now there isn't anything that stays put in my ears as well as a $40 yurbuds set. There is the risk of a violent disconnect on the treadmill there, but it's a tradeoff for something that will stay in my ears when I sweat. Unfortunately for me it's a step back, but I recognize that's not the case for everyone.
Even my very first iPhone, the 3GS, supported Bluetooth. No one who didn't want to has had to use wired headphones in a long time. Why are people acting like removing the headphone jack is some new innovation that has freed them from a terrible wired existence?
Because there are consumers that buy into every single word that comes out of a keynote presentation. I had seldom heard how "archaic" the 3.5 implementation was until they were told it was so.
People who wanted Bluetooth headphones were already purchasing them. This was a wink-wink nudge-nudge push on people who were fine with their wired headphones. A push that can only help bolster their Beats division.
Do you have stats to back up that claim about BT?
Anecdotally speaking, I know many people who would have been happy losing the cord, but many aspects of BT, the least of which was the compressed sound quality, had long ago put them off BT, with no interest in trying them again. Those I've let try my newer BT headphones are often impressesed by how good they sound, and how long they last on a charge, and how reliably they pair. What usually still puts them off is price, the pairing issues that remain, and charging issues. Apple has eliminated most of those issues in large part, and prices will likely begin to fall dramatically now that the need for BT headphones on a major device will substantially increase demand and competition. Yes, Beats will benefit initially as the sole provider of the w1 chip, but a rising tide raises all boats, and while they will likely continue to command a healthy market share as they always have, so will all the other major headphones makers.
I ordered and had a brand new iPhone 7 Plus Jet Black sitting on my desk at work for and I sent it back today. For me, the general annoyance of not having a headphone jack was enough to send it back without even opening the package. I know bluetooth is here and I actually have a few bluetooth headphones/headsets but I still fall back to wired headphones on a regular basis so not having the option readily available is a major no sale for me. I've had every iPhone since it was released, this will be the first time I do not upgrade.
Purchased an iPhone 7 recently and to my surprise the lack of a headphone jack isnt as big of a deal as I thought. I also purchased a new pair of wireless headphones to use and I have used them only a few times. The new phone really does last all day for me.
While I do not buy the "courage" line, I think the phone could have stayed the same size and kept the headphone jack. I will say the lack of the jack has not impacted my use.
While I do not buy the "courage" line, I think the phone could have stayed the same size and kept the headphone jack. I will say the lack of the jack has not impacted my use.
Slightly OT but this lone stickied thread bothers me now that all the others are un-stickied. Wonder what makes this one special?
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