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Cnasty

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The 6+ purchase for me was an OS decision only.

I had a Note 3 and never used the Spen as I could type or handle tasks much quicker with my fingers. The multi window was never an option I used because I preferred the entire screen and didnt ever see a need to have both open at once. And the features that people proclaim make the Note 4 better are simply down to that individual.

I've said it before and I will say it again. I have about 10 people I work with that have a Note and not one of them consistently use the Spen or the productivity features. They bought it for a bigger screen and now that the iPhone has done the same more than half have jumped back to Apple because the OS is superior in its function and stability and improvements with seamless updates and quick fixes versus the dreaded Samsung wait for updates from the carriers.

But again, buy the phone that works for your specific needs and if those productivity needs are yours than of course the Note OS is going to always beat the Apple one. Just dont proclaim iOS isnt meaningful and trash blindly.
 

Technarchy

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I believe it.

During my time with the iPhone 6 vs the S5, the iPhone was overall the faster and more responsive device.
 

skratch77

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I believe it.

During my time with the iPhone 6 vs the S5, the iPhone was overall the faster and more responsive device.

You believe the note 4 scores a 1000 plus sunspider score?

Maybe in power saving mode and playing music and installing an app at the same time it scores such a horrible time lol
 

Technarchy

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You believe the note 4 scores a 1000 plus sunspider score?

Maybe in power saving mode and playing music and installing an app at the same time it scores such a horrible time lol

I have no idea what you are talking about or trying to say.
 

BlueGoldAce

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You believe the note 4 scores a 1000 plus sunspider score?



Maybe in power saving mode and playing music and installing an app at the same time it scores such a horrible time lol


If the benchmarks show it bud, then that's the case.

PhoneArena is reliable.

Denying it won't change it. Just enjoy the device if you want it.
 

skratch77

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I have no idea what you are talking about or trying to say.

This performance test done against the note 4 in the first post has the note 4 running a 1000+ sunspider score when the phone is almost 3 times faster then that score.

Take this review and throw it in the dumpster
 

BlueGoldAce

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This performance test done against the note 4 in the first post has the note 4 running a 1000+ sunspider score when the phone is almost 3 times faster then that score.



Take this review and throw it in the dumpster


Your basing this on what?

Sorry. The review is from a reliable source.

iOS is just optimized.
 

skratch77

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Your basing this on what?

Sorry. The review is from a reliable source.

iOS is just optimized.

They scored 1000+ and I personally tested a note 4 at best buy and got 382 I posted the picture in this thread.

Annandtech was trusted also but nobody could replicate its battery tests and then everyone found out apple owns the site.

Go figure
 

Technarchy

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They scored 1000+ and I personally tested a note 4 at best buy and got 382 I posted the picture in this thread.

Annandtech was trusted also but nobody could replicate its battery tests and then everyone found out apple owns the site.

I'd love to see proof of that...Take your time, I'll wait.
 

BlueGoldAce

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They scored 1000+ and I personally tested a note 4 at best buy and got 382 I posted the picture in this thread.



Annandtech was trusted also but nobody could replicate its battery tests and then everyone found out apple owns the site.



Go figure


Yeah....no they don't. How the hell did this rumor start?

Apple hired one of the lead writers. He is now working for apple and no longer associated with andantech.

Andantech is equally harsh on Apple products as they are on other smart phones.
 

skratch77

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Yeah....no they don't. How the hell did this rumor start?

Apple hired one of the lead writers. He is now working for apple and no longer associated with andantech.

Andantech is equally harsh on Apple products as they are on other smart phones.

Um no they hired the founder and owner/CEO under there wing.not some lead writer.it was the owner of the site.

Its been years and everyone knew how biased they were towards apple in all there reviews.

Just like this fake review scoring the note 4 1000 in sunspider
 

BlueGoldAce

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Um no they hired the founder and owner/CEO under there wing.not some lead writer.it was the owner of the site.



Its been years and everyone knew how biased they were towards apple in all there reviews.


Um... I thought he got hired recently.

Anyway, thought he moved on.

Why don't you go read the lg G3 review, the pervious note review, and an iPhone review. Just the conclusions.

Doesn't sound like a biased site to me.

Just because you don't like the results doesn't mean basing the site will help you.

Why don't you go bash ars tech ( whatever the name is), PhoneArena, or any other non android focused site. Cnet is another example.

You can't, not everyone who reviews an apple device favorably is biased or in apples pocket.
 

skratch77

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Um... I thought he got hired recently.

Anyway, thought he moved on.

Why don't you go read the lg G3 review, the pervious note review, and an iPhone review. Just the conclusions.

Doesn't sound like a biased site to me.

Just because you don't like the results doesn't mean basing the site will help you.

Why don't you go bash ars tech ( whatever the name is), PhoneArena, or any other non android focused site. Cnet is another example.

You can't, not everyone who reviews an apple device favorably is biased or in apples pocket.

Anandech was called out by its own forum members about the whole thing.
 

khha4113

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Didn't expect apple to crush the note 4 performance specs... This goes to show kids specs isn't everything.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-vs-Apple-iPhone-6-Plus_id3815/page/2

http://mostly-tech.com/tag/sunspider/

Benchmarks rarely predict real-world performance — Many benchmarks favor graphics performance and have little bearing on the things real consumers do with their phones. For example, no one watches hundreds of polygons draw on their screens, but that’s exactly the types of things benchmarks do. Even mobile gamers are unlikely to see increased performance on devices which score higher, because most popular games don’t stress the CPU and GPU the same way benchmarks do. Benchmarks like GLBenchmark 2.5 focus on things like high-level 3D animations. One reviewer recently said, “Apple’s A6 has an edge in polygon performance and that may be important for ultra-high resolution games, but I have yet to see many of those. Most games that I’ve tried on both platforms run in lower resolution with an up-scaling.” For more on this topic, scroll down to the section titled: “Case Study 2: Is the iPhone 5 Really Twice as Fast?”...

... Another video shows that even though the iPhone 5s does better on most graphics benchmarks, when it comes to real world things like scrolling a webpage in the Chrome browser, Android devices scroll significantly faster than a iPhone 5s running iOS 7. See for yourself in this video.

capture1a.png


The iPhone 5s appears to do well on graphics benchmarks until you realize that Android phones have almost 3x the pixels

capture2a.png


More proof that graphics benchmarks favor devices with lower-res displays
 

BlueGoldAce

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What?

It's all trade offs. Performance for pixels, etc.

Do you need to score a 3 on sun spider? No. Do you need overkill on screen pixels like the note 4, at the cost of performance? No.

Does it hurt the phone right now? No, in the future maybe.

Anyone can write anything anywhere. Don't cherry pick websites. Just draw ones own conclusions or a general consensus among sites.

For example, I read this was important on a tech website... So chicken must be a factor.

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Sorry... Just think that is hilarious.
 

khha4113

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Oct 12, 2013
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What?

It's all trade offs. Performance for pixels, etc.

Do you need to score a 3 on sun spider? No. Do you need overkill on screen pixels like the note 4, at the cost of performance? No.

Does it hurt the phone right now? No, in the future maybe.

Anyone can write anything anywhere. Don't cherry pick websites. Just draw ones own conclusions or a general consensus among sites.

For example, I read this was important on a tech website... So chicken must be a factor.

Image

Sorry... Just think that is hilarious.
The point of this is not about performance, but how useless these benchmarks show!
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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The iPhone will be fine. Just like the older models managed with half that ram.

It's the nature of iOS. Once people realize that android and iOS are fundamentally different, comparisons will be more fair.

Sorry... But my iPhone 6+ multitasks just as well as my lg G3. Even the web browser manages similarity.

My point exactly. iOS will be extremely locked down for several years. Apple is not going to add features that would require 2gb ram anytime soon, and leave 6 Plus users out in the cold. This means don't expect any big chances on iOS soon

And I doubt multitasking on the iP6+ and LG3 is equally robust. Maybe according to your own usage.
 

Fireblade

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Jan 25, 2011
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If you are not a smartphone gamer, what for do you need this magical benchmark performance on an iPhone?
 

Gaugerer

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Jan 5, 2013
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The 6+ purchase for me was an OS decision only.

I had a Note 3 and never used the Spen as I could type or handle tasks much quicker with my fingers. The multi window was never an option I used because I preferred the entire screen and didnt ever see a need to have both open at once. And the features that people proclaim make the Note 4 better are simply down to that individual.

I've said it before and I will say it again. I have about 10 people I work with that have a Note and not one of them consistently use the Spen or the productivity features. They bought it for a bigger screen and now that the iPhone has done the same more than half have jumped back to Apple because the OS is superior in its function and stability and improvements with seamless updates and quick fixes versus the dreaded Samsung wait for updates from the carriers.

But again, buy the phone that works for your specific needs and if those productivity needs are yours than of course the Note OS is going to always beat the Apple one. Just dont proclaim iOS isnt meaningful and trash blindly.

The Note offers greater flexibility with a better screen and the ability to replace the battery and add extra storage. So it's not just the S-Pen and split screen multitasking that makes the Note so good.

After scrapping a tablet with a battery which failed I would never buy a phone where the battery could not be replaced.
 

Appl3FTW

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So you're telling me android fans are all specs but when you fight them with specs, all of a sudden it's meaningless? Hahaha pathetic.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Oct 11, 2011
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When did benchmarks = specs?

You fail bad at trolling.


Um... Actually yes. There is no other way to compare the raw power of a chipset.

To deny that Apple makes one of the best soc in the mobile system is to be ignorant.

And to address a previous poster... Yes the 6+ bested the G3 in multitasking and speed.

All you have to do is look up a few YouTube videos between the iPhone 6 and competing flag ships.

Android aggressively closes background task as well, since a few versions ago. The two systems may multitask differently, but that doesn't make one markedly superior to the other.
 

Dunbar

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So you're telling me android fans are all specs but when you fight them with specs, all of a sudden it's meaningless?

I was going to post something similar. It's two sides of the same coin. You can't expect people to stop posting benchmark results until people stop boasting about specs. Otherwise it's the pot calling the kettle black.
 
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