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Other In-Display Touch-ID is all but confirmed - Coming to future iOS devices soon

Relentless Power said:
The problem is, there are many who under “The Internet said it, so it must be true”, because Thats what they choose to believe about the Face ID myths, even when the sources themselves with the VP of Hardware engineering Dan Riccio and VP of Software engineering Craig Federighi _both_ debunked the Face ID rumors multiple times, but the internet crowd somehow seemingly does not believe the actual sources itself and they (Apple) must be lying about everything to “Hide” something. There is no convincing some others no matter how much factual information listed for sources, because they’re likely in denial or they just simply don’t understand.
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The proof will be future devices.

Funny thing about denial. It's easy to be vocal when it's rumor, but whenever reality doesn't line up with belief, silence is all you hear then. Those in denial never seem to want to revisit their past claims either, even to the point of open hostility when those claims are factually recalled as evidence of their denial.

It's an interesting thing to watch.
 
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eyoungren said:
The proof will be future devices.

Funny thing about denial. It's easy to be vocal when it's rumor, but whenever reality doesn't line up with belief, silence is all you hear then. Those in denial never seem to want to revisit their past claims either, even The problem with anything when it comes to face ID or the Internet, people don’t like to be proved wrong, and the way you prove somebody wrong is not stating some opinion as fact, which many miss construe on tax forms. If you provide your reasoning with facts. the point of open hostility when those claims are factually recalled as evidence of their denial.

It's an interesting thing to watch.
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I agree Erik. The problem with when it comes to face ID on the Internet, people don’t like to be proven wrong and they are upset they get ‘Called out’, and the way you prove somebody wrong is _not_ stating or conflating some ‘opinion as fact’, (which you and I know happens quite often). If you provide your reasoning with verified sources and facts, Thats the most logical course. But then you have those spout off nonsensical opinions as facts about Face ID and to fail recognize the actual source itself says otherwise, but then ‘The actual sources must be wrong’ as well. It really is a vicious circle. I have learned when it comes to face ID over the touch ID controversy throughout these threads, denial is very serious thing for some, even when the source itself has said otherwise, likely because they are disgruntled over this new technology or they don’t agree with Apples decision to remove touch ID. There’s nothing wrong with having an opinion on Face ID or Touch ID, just don’t claim it as fact, and if they believe their opinion is fact or what they post about Face ID , reply back with a source, not some assertion based off “I believe this because this what I heard on the internet”.
 
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Relentless Power said:
I agree Erik. The problem with when it comes to face ID on the Internet, people don’t like to be proven wrong and they are upset they get ‘Called out’, and the way you prove somebody wrong is _not_ stating or conflating some ‘opinion as fact’, (which you and I know happens quite often). If you provide your reasoning with verified sources and facts, Thats the most logical course. But then you have those spout off nonsensical opinions as facts about Face ID and fail recognize the actual source itself says otherwise, but then ‘The actual sources must be wrong’ as well. It really is a vicious circle. I have learned when it comes to face ID over the touch ID controversy throughout these threads, denial is very serious thing for some, even when the source itself has said otherwise, likely because they are disgruntled over this new technology or they don’t agree with Apples decision to remove touch ID. There’s nothing wrong with having an opinion on Face ID or Touch ID, just don’t claim it as fact, and if they believe their opinion is fact or what they post about Face ID is fact, reply back with a source, not some assertion based off “I believe this because this what I heard on the internet”.
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Personally, I believe the whole FaceID controversy is overblown.

People have short memories and the storms over FaceID are the exact same storms that happened when TouchID was first introduced with the 5s. The iPhone 6 resolved all of that.

I see FaceID the same way. The next iPhone will have second-gen FaceID and these complaints will simply go away.
 
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eyoungren said:
Funny thing about denial. It's easy to be vocal when it's rumor, but whenever reality doesn't line up with belief, silence is all you hear then.
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Problem is too many folks, in their pursuit to be right, mistake an opinion as fact and continue to grind that ax. And they will continue even after there mistake is pointed out. An opinion can be held with confidence even though it has not been substantiated with absolute proof. Thus it is an opinion and not fact. Funny how specific people don't get that.
 
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Raist3001 said:
Problem is too many folks, in their pursuit to be right, mistake an opinion as fact and continue to grind that ax. And they will continue even after there mistake is pointed out. An opinion can be held with confidence even though it has not been substantiated with absolute proof. Thus it is an opinion and not fact. Funny how specific people don't get that.
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For the record…that comment I made wasn't directed at you.

I was actually aiming at the OP, who In My Humble OPINION IS in denial. ;)
 
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Raist3001 said:
Thanks for clearing that up. I did think it was directed at me. I was wrong, and I apologize for that assumption.
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Not a problem! I can see why you thought that (I was jumping into the middle of another discussion) and I was actually expecting to hear from you (and I did).

No worries. :)
 
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JPack said:
That's like saying with Face ID, passcode entry shouldn't available as an option on iPhone X.

If you ask security experts, multi-modal biometric authentication is better as it minimizes spoofing. We've seen false positives with Face ID when relatives or siblings share an iPhone X.

The best solution is continuous multi-modal biometric authentication. Due to power requirements, this probably isn't possible with Face ID. But in-display Touch ID would allow continuous authentication as long as someone is touching or scrolling a bank app, for example.

Overall, there are more arguments for in-display Touch ID in conjunction with Face ID.

What is Apple going to say? We tried to implement in-display Touch ID but couldn't? Did they admit phablets were gaining traction when they launched iPhone 5?
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I personally wish Face ID wasn’t an option on the iPhone X then we would’ve had Touch ID on it.
[doublepost=1534485575][/doublepost]Just my opinion, but I’m almost 100% sure Apple would’ve sold a lot more iPhone X’s if they would’ve implemented Touch ID into the screen. I bought the X right after launch date, and have hated Face ID since day one. Touch ID wouldve definitely been 100% better.
 
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serialiphoneuser said:
It's still 2018.

If Touch-ID doesn't make a return next year, I will get a hold of the iPhone 8 and hold on to it till it gets the last software update and jump to Android land. Will NEVER EVER use Fa1l-ID or any form of facial recognition "security" "authentication" system.
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Just get the galaxy s10 when it’s released, it’s suppose to have finger print sensor under the display.
 
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