So we’re at:
Apple Silicon bad because no CentOS 7 compatibility and no Jim Kepler working at Apple.
Am I correct?
That was SO three posts ago. Apple Silicon bad because Risc-V
So we’re at:
Apple Silicon bad because no CentOS 7 compatibility and no Jim Kepler working at Apple.
Am I correct?
The goalposts shift so fast it’s hard to keep up.That was SO three posts ago. Apple Silicon bad because Risc-V
Hold on, let me reread this post after dropping acid so it makes sense.Forefather of AS is using Risc-V so what does that tell you? Risc-V is the future and to get there you need tools now running on x64 to build towards that future with AI that will automatically build future 2.0. Interesting to see how HPC Ascalon Risc-V turns out.
@cmaier didn’t you have some automated tools to design circuitry already? Remind me how that works.AI that will automatically build future 2.0.
I’m confused. Is Risc-V the future, or is it Intel now they have their “amazing“ Alder lake chips? I assume you mean everything accept apple silicon is the future?Forefather of AS is using Risc-V so what does that tell you? Risc-V is the future and to get there you need tools now running on x64 to build towards that future with AI that will automatically build future 2.0. Interesting to see how HPC Ascalon Risc-V turns out.
It's Intel because they're on the RISC-V consortium now! So in the future Intel will abandon their x86 architecture (which is superior to Apple) for RISC-V which is also superior to Apple Silicon. That must be it, right?? Right?I’m confused. Is Risc-V the future, or is it Intel now they have their “amazing“ Alder lake chips? I assume you mean everything accept apple silicon is the future?
I think he means Intel is the future because they’re investing into RISC-V now and maybe possibly theoretically are working on fpgas which are better than cpus or gpus (somehow the last 50 years of chip design missed this fact) and are more flexible than asics. Then they will build an AI that’s better than humans (and the one true messiah of cpu design, Jim Keller) at designing chips and Apple loses to Alder Lake and Intel because of that.I’m confused. Is Risc-V the future, or is it Intel now they have their “amazing“ Alder lake chips? I assume you mean everything accept apple silicon is the future?
Tough times for Apple.
Hold on, let me reread this post after dropping acid so it makes sense.
Forefather of AS is using Risc-V so what does that tell you?
I’m confused. Is Risc-V the future, or is it Intel now they have their “amazing“ Alder lake chips? I assume you mean everything accept apple silicon is the future?
Tough times for Apple.
Thanks that’s cleared it up. Worryingly, I tried to run Centos 7 on risc-v and it didn’t work. Is it the future or the past?I think he means Intel is the future because they’re investing into RISC-V now and maybe possibly theoretically are working on fpgas which are better than cpus or gpus (somehow the last 50 years of chip design missed this fact) and are more flexible than asics. Then they will build an AI that’s better than humans (and the one true messiah of cpu design, Jim Keller) at designing chips and Apple loses to Alder Lake and Intel because of that.
In any scenario, Apple loses. Guess I’d better cancel my order for a Mbp and buy an Intel Laptop.
Could you elaborate on how RISC-V is involved in AI?Forefather of AS is using Risc-V so what does that tell you? Risc-V is the future and to get there you need tools now running on x64 to build towards that future with AI that will automatically build future 2.0. Interesting to see how HPC Ascalon Risc-V turns out.
Are you Jim Keller? Am I? Can we rename this forum the Jim Keller news thread?Answered by Jim Keller in the first video.
That's not CentOS Linux 7 stable release as specified in the original request while CentOS Stream 9 is an early beta release relative to Stream 8 minor beta release. Kudos though for spending all that time to confirm CentOS Linux 7 and Stream 8 don't work and jumping to Stream 9. That's just one of many dependencies so many more hurdles with PiTorch, TensorFlow, ONNX, Buda, etc.
Wait, is Keller designing anything that will go inside a consumer machine? From what I can tell it's some expansion cards for desktops, and cloud services. It's like they're going after a completely different market and won't actually be competing with Apple in any way.
That does not seem quite right. Apple is in the box, and it is both included and excluded until we open the box. Now, where did I put my torx 6?Schrodingers future: impossible to know whether it’s the future until you conclusively exclude Apple.
Forefather of AS is using Risc-V so what does that tell you? Risc-V is the future and to get there you need tools now running on x64 to build towards that future with AI that will automatically build future 2.0. Interesting to see how HPC Ascalon Risc-V turns out.
Schrodingers future: impossible to know whether it’s the future until you conclusively exclude Apple.
Digital must have been his one true love.Two or three years had gone by so it was time for a new job again?
Let’s see… if Wikipedia is acccurate…
DEC 1982-1998
AMD 1998-1999
SiByte 1999-2004
PA Semi 2004-2008
Apple 2008-2012
AMD 2012-2015
Tesla 2016-2018
Intel 2018-2020
Tenstorrent 2020-?
Jim is no forefather of Apple Sillicon, he left in 2012. The only remotely close AS chip to M1 is the A12X/Z and that came out in 2018. 6 years later Jim left.Interesting, Tenstorrent is adopting the SoC embedded in GPU idea but scaled up to Risc-V embedded in AI processor.
Forefather of AS, Jim Keller, view on x86-64 vs ARM vs RISC-V. Spoiler alert, x86-64 Zen has removed some legacy baggage, ARM added more baggage and RISC-V clean slate since it's new.
A good engineer is a good teacher.
Didn’t you know? Anyone who has ever worked at apple is a forefather to AS. We should see what Woz is doing.Jim is no forefather of Apple Sillicon, he left in 2012. The only remotely close AS chip to M1 is the A12X/Z and that came out in 2018. 6 years later Jim left.