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Intel iMac disassembled...

imaswitcheryeah said:
The link to the pic of the "Core Duo Chip" in this post on the front page of Macrumors, is IMO, not the Core Duo chip itself.

It looks to me that it is the system controller or a chip of that nature. I am an Apple Technician and have access to the Service Manuals. Did anyone else get confused when it obviously had no signs of a heatsink being removed from it? I'll post pics soon...
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Indeed, I was just going to say the same thing... the image linked as the CPU is the ICH7M south bridge.
 
imaswitcheryeah said:
The link to the pic of the "Core Duo Chip" in this post on the front page of Macrumors, is IMO, not the Core Duo chip itself.

It looks to me that it is the system controller or a chip of that nature. I am an Apple Technician and have access to the Service Manuals. Did anyone else get confused when it obviously had no signs of a heatsink being removed from it? I'll post pics soon...
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Yeah me too... I'm no technician, but i noticed that too. Didn't look much like any other proc i've seen.
 
imaswitcheryeah said:
The link to the pic of the "Core Duo Chip" in this post on the front page of Macrumors, is IMO, not the Core Duo chip itself.

It looks to me that it is the system controller or a chip of that nature. I am an Apple Technician and have access to the Service Manuals. Did anyone else get confused when it obviously had no signs of a heatsink being removed from it? I'll post pics soon...
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yep, you're right.

I think this is it:

https://www.macrumors.com/downloads/articleimages/intelimacchip.jpg (reload the image)

arn
 
Eidorian said:
Yeah, I love my Rev. B's interior. I didn't think the Intel's would be as bad as the Rev. C but it looks like Apple wants to lock us out from upgrading and lock us in to buying a new machine.
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Exactly what could you upgrade in the rev A/B that you can't in the new ones?

Also, is it just me or is it liquid cooled? Didja see the pipes?


Ken
[wants one]
 
umm ok... i seriously hope everything with an intel processor that mac releases isn't so ugly on the inside. with that said, why does the core duo chip still use the "dropped e" logo?? :confused:
 
Man, those are some ugly insides.

I wonder if the MBP will be better, because that thing is a user-serviceable nightmare.
 
i am much more worried about the second part of the thread start page, when they talk about benchmarks...

...those tests give HORRENDOUS results, as if we really needed confirmation this 2 Mac releases where rushed...

ok, certainly speeds will take up in a month or two, when soft will be attuned and OSX evolve... :rolleyes:
 
EricNau said:
That thing looks like it went through the war! What happened to Steve Jobs saying the inside must be as pretty as the outside? :confused:
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I will answer your question the moment you find an answer to the question "What happened to Steve Jobs saying 3Ghz G5 PowerMacs in 12 months??"
 
Eidorian said:
Wow, you have a point there. D'oh. We need some pictures from the back of the iMac now. :(
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I will probably look just as crappy since it looks like everything is mounted to the back as opposed front part of the computer with the imac g5.
And for those complaining, we are just pointing out the way apple has changed the way the made the insides of their computers.
 
uh oh

When my iMac Core Duo arrives I am not going to open it. I'll wait and see if someone else can install windows xp on it and decide if i am going to keep it. I may wait for another revision or until apps are optimized.
 
About the benchmarks...

The reason why the encoding jobs are sooo slow is simply because all of the encoding algorithms have been EXTREMELY optimized for altivec (look at the encoder tab in iTunes, it will say AAC encoder Optimized for Velocity Engine), now we are back to square one, where Apple pretty much has to re-engineer all of their codecs. Give the Quicktime team 6-12 months to re-tweak everything for SSE, and we'll see our performance go back up. Also, i want to see apple re-engineer their encoders to use the GPU. ATI made an app, and they could compress a DVD in 5x real time. Take that!
 
thecapitalizt said:
The reason why the encoding jobs are sooo slow is simply because all of the encoding algorithms have been EXTREMELY optimized for altivec (look at the encoder tab in iTunes, it will say AAC encoder Optimized for Velocity Engine), now we are back to square one, where Apple pretty much has to re-engineer all of their codecs. Give the Quicktime team 6-12 months to re-tweak everything for SSE, and we'll see our performance go back up. Also, i want to see apple re-engineer their encoders to use the GPU. ATI made an app, and they could compress a DVD in 5x real time. Take that!
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You likely are pretty much correct... any AltiVec optimized code (just about all codecs in QuickTime, Core Audio, and Core Image) need to be retooled to use SSE/SSE2. Apple is working on it but it won't happen over night.

The FPS numbers for WoW on the iMac Core Duo look darn nice.
 
That thing is hideous on the inside. My PowerMac is so clean on the inside. That thing is a mess. Hope they aren't all that way. OTOH, if they perform well and are reliable, I don't really care what they look like. I am not going to service it myself anyhow. I just hope something that looks like that can be reliable.:D
 
runninmac said:
I relize that I will spend about .01% of my time with a Mac doing things with the insides
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The Intel system is an absolute nightmare to disassemble. The G5's back comes off easily, whereas for the Intel you need to pull the front off and remove the LCD! :eek:
 
thecapitalizt said:
The reason why the encoding jobs are sooo slow is simply because all of the encoding algorithms have been EXTREMELY optimized for altivec (look at the encoder tab in iTunes, it will say AAC encoder Optimized for Velocity Engine), now we are back to square one, where Apple pretty much has to re-engineer all of their codecs. Give the Quicktime team 6-12 months to re-tweak everything for SSE, and we'll see our performance go back up. Also, i want to see apple re-engineer their encoders to use the GPU. ATI made an app, and they could compress a DVD in 5x real time. Take that!
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kudos man, kick ass observation.
 
Nermal said:
The Intel system is an absolute nightmare to disassemble. The G5's back comes off easily, whereas for the Intel you need to pull the front off and remove the LCD! :eek:
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Where is that mentioned? The Rev. C G5 has its LCD taken off first and it looked just as bad. Do we know that the only was to disassemble it is to remove the LCD?
 
Maybe Apple is artificially lowering expectations in-order to sell more stock at a slightly reduced price. So that when the G5 Intel Mac's land the stocks prices jump back up, Apple will have achieved higher sales (of stock) at a reduced value over that quarter or year. It will serve to benefit Apple going into 2007.
It's just rearranging the numbers. It would be kind of like changing the shifting ratio on you car to shift later, but intern it give you the torque you need in a much more useful gear or time.

Also Apple might being trying to get folks to buy the more premium MacBook Pro's.

But this is purely speculation.
 
shawnce said:
You likely are pretty much correct... any AltiVec optimized code (just about all codecs in QuickTime, Core Audio, and Core Image) need to be retooled to use SSE/SSE2. Apple is working on it but it won't happen over night.
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I also agree on that, if you go to iTunes under Preferences then Advance it has it importing optimized for the Velocity Engine.

Edit:Can anyone on and Intel Mac check to see what its optimized for?
 
thecapitalizt said:
The reason why the encoding jobs are sooo slow is simply because all of the encoding algorithms have been EXTREMELY optimized for altivec (look at the encoder tab in iTunes, it will say AAC encoder Optimized for Velocity Engine), now we are back to square one, where Apple pretty much has to re-engineer all of their codecs. Give the Quicktime team 6-12 months to re-tweak everything for SSE, and we'll see our performance go back up. Also, i want to see apple re-engineer their encoders to use the GPU. ATI made an app, and they could compress a DVD in 5x real time. Take that!
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Also The MacBook Pro has an intentionally slower CD/DVD drive in-order to keep that slim-line look. So if you encode from the CD itself, your at the mercy of the drive speed as well.
 
Eidorian said:
Where is that mentioned? The Rev. C G5 has its LCD taken off first and it looked just as bad. Do we know that the only was to disassemble it is to remove the LCD?
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I think you and I are just about the only people on this forum to comprehend that fact. And I swear, it's stressing me out that as a result of the misguided wording of this article, the thousands of readers are soon to think that the Intel iMacs are less nicely designed than the G5 iMacs.

MacRumors - you're misleading people, and to me that's a misuse of power.
 
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