Intel OSX 10.4.4 cracked already

[generik]

These are all of the 10.4.1 Build that I did a while back when I first did it in like September. I did it a few times with the different builds.

To add insult to injury it is a DELL!

 

[truz]

wow thats nice could I install macos x (and keep it at its latest 10.4.5 +) on my HP amd64?

One thing I like about this thread and that link in this thread and it lists (Feb 14th, 06 - MacOS X 10.4.4 INTEL Cracked already) and then apple puts out 10.4.5 Feb 14th, 06. You just dont get that in the windows world Microsoft gets cracked on a daily basis, it takes them half a year to put out an update which ends up allows more security holes.

 

[iMeowbot]

And for those who regard it as piracy, remember that OSX86 isn't about illegally copying software, it is about getting legally purchased software to run on something that was, until now, shutting it out.

And there is a problem. The only way to legally obtain OS X for Intel is with an Apple computer. There is no retail boxed package.

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[RacerX]

That is how I loaded 10.4.3 on my computer a while back.

It should be noted that it is illegal to run any version of Mac OS X on none Apple hardware... and while I'm sure that you are proud of yourself, maybe we could keep the topic of your illegal exploits to a minimum.


On the subject of 10.4.4 being hacked, with the other version in the wild, it wasn't much of a surprise. The hack wouldn't be that much different than XPostFacto at this point I would image.

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[iMeowbot]

Sorry but I own a legal copy of OSX. I never knew it was illegal to put your own software on a different machine than it was designed for. Would it be illegal for me to put a copy of windows on my Mac? It is not designed for it. But I bought OSX 10.4 so I think I have a right to put it on what ever I want to put it on.

The problem in this case is that if you have an OS X for Intel license, it is a license to run the OS on one computer. there is no way to get that software without buying a Mac. There is no other operating system that currently runs on the new Intel Macs except OS X. The only way you would have an unused OS X license is if you bought the Mac, kept the software and took a sledgehammer to the hardware. Are you saying that you did this?

 

[Airforce]

wow thats nice could I install macos x (and keep it at its latest 10.4.5 +) on my HP amd64?

Yup, on a 1.8 AMD Athlon 64 here.

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[Applespider]

I would argue that one in court.... So call it illegal but I will say that putting Windows on a Mac is thus illegal by this logic.

Not that I disagree with you necessarily but you'd fail arguing it in court since you accept, the first time you run OS X, that you can only run it on Apple hardware.

Windows on a Mac is slightly different since MS don't make computer hardware so there's no such requirement in their license - you just need to have the appropriate license/authentication. Hence why you can build your own PC legally but you can't really build your own Mac.

The question though of what you might have modify to make it work might make the process illegal since you'd be modifying copyrighted work which is against that darned Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

However, congrats on trying out OS X and getting your Mac... proves the point I made earlier that it can only help more people see the goodness of OS X.

 

[Mr. Mister]

I'd say that if you buy a copy of Mac OS X and then do all of the stuff, or have sold your Mac, bought a PC, and still own the copy of Mac OS X, you have every right to install it on your PC.

The grey area, however, is the fact that the stuff being circulated on the internet is a supposedly private developers version of it that isn't supposed to be available to the general public.

 

[Mr. Mister]

To add insult to injury it is a DELL!

I helped my friend install Mac OS X 10.4.2 onto his Dell Latitude and it ran faster than it ever did on my mom's iBook G4.

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[AJBMatrix]

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[Mr. Mister]

Shhhhhh....do not say that too loud. It might be illegal! Be careful you might be told on.

I almost think that Apple leaked OS X and made the security on it weak enough to be cracked just so that people could start running it on their comps, testing it with the hardware so when Apple is ready for Mac OS X to run on all machines, they'll have a wide database of information that they can use to improve compatibility...

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[RacerX]

Sorry but I own a legal copy of OSX. I never knew it was illegal to put your own software on a different machine than it was designed for. Would it be illegal for me to put a copy of windows on my Mac? It is not designed for it. But I bought OSX 10.4 so I think I have a right to put it on what ever I want to put it on.

For those who are a little confused on Apple OS licensing, lets clear up the issue.

Your license to use the Mac OS comes from the hardware. Your Apple hardware came with a Mac OS originally, and any version of the Mac OS you buy is actually a strict upgrade to the license you were granted with the Apple hardware. Your Apple hardware is a license key for Mac OS X (which is why we have never needed a license string for the Mac OS).

... that is to say, boxed versions of Mac OS X are actually upgrades. And your license to used those is the hardware itself.

That having been said, there are no boxed versions of Mac OS X for Intel processors. The only legal versions in existence are tied to existing hardware that came from Apple. Anyone who got Mac OS X for Intel with Apple hardware is only allowed to use Mac OS X on that hardware.

Further, versions of Mac OS X for Intel before version 10.4.4 were distributed under a nondisclosure agreement. So on top of the license agreement to only run it on the Apple hardware it came with, it was also illegal to share it with anyone... or discuss the software at length with anyone before the final release (which has since come and gone).

Basically, there is no way to run Mac OS X on a PC legally. Even if you had a developer kit system. Or an Intel based iMac. Or a MacBook Pro.

And the first boxed versions of Mac OS X for Intel aren't going to show up until 10.5 is released (in case any of you were waiting).

Hope that helps straighten out the legal issues for you.

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[RacerX]

Sorry but I own a legal copy of OSX.

You know, those are some really cool image you posted for us.



You know, the odd thing about them isn't that they are on a Dell... it is what is displayed on screen.

Since when has Apple been distributing Mac OS X as an iso file? You have Disk Utility open with a disk image called Genaric-Tiger.iso... which has mounted as Mac OS X Install Disc.

I've been working with Apple pretty closely for years, but this is the first time I've ever seen a legal copy of Mac OS X distributed as a disk image (and it isn't even a Mac disk image at that).

 

[AJBMatrix]

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[AJBMatrix]

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[jhu]

To add insult to injury it is a DELL!

i supposed. but you do realize that most laptops, including current apple branded powerpc and x86 laptops, are made by quanta in taiwan, right?

 

[RacerX]

Yeah, well I was just saying I did not go out and BT my own version of OSX. I did download Darwin. I did download some patches.

So how did yo get legal Intel versions of... say, the Finder? Or Disk Utility for that matter? Or Quartz?

These aren't included with Darwin. None of the proprietary parts of Mac OS X are part of Darwin. And the PowerPC version wouldn't run on top of the Intel version of Darwin (infact, it is hard to get them to run on top of the PowerPC version of Darwin... as Darwin doesn't come with everything needed to support them).

Without the original source all those parts, you couldn't have just compile them for Intel.

So are you saying that you took Mac OS X for PowerPC, Darwin for Intel, a 43 page PDF and 17 hours and ended up with Mac OS X for Intel?

 

[Mattym62]

Now Im not so sure that I want to get one of the new Intel Powerbooks untill they get some better security on the systems..

 

[jhu]

Now Im not so sure that I want to get one of the new Intel Powerbooks untill they get some better security on the systems..

that doesn't make any sense