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The XR display is brighter than those were, similar ppi, and edge-to-edge.
The XS display is completely different, and the price difference is also due to materials and an additional camera.

i get the display is different.

it costs apple $50 more for the display per phone.

previous phones already had 2 cameras, so that's not something to even include in the discussion.
 
I think you misread something. This only applies to portrait mode. It has to do with depth sensing.

Both lenses have a different field of view, so the image data cannot be combined. In addition to having a different field of view, a wide angle lens and a telephoto lens also have different perspectives (closer objects appear larger in relation to the background on the wide angle lens).

This is why XR can only shoot portrait mode when it detects a face, because it cannot uses 2 lenses for depth sensing.
I will have to keep digging as I thought I read it would ‘blend’ in WA as well. Here is an article showing how it may/may not use zoom lens for .. well zooming.

https://www.studioneat.com/blogs/main/dual-lens-switching-on-the-iphone-x
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I think you misread something. This only applies to portrait mode. It has to do with depth sensing.

Both lenses have a different field of view, so the image data cannot be combined. In addition to having a different field of view, a wide angle lens and a telephoto lens also have different perspectives (closer objects appear larger in relation to the background on the wide angle lens).

This is why XR can only shoot portrait mode when it detects a face, because it cannot uses 2 lenses for depth sensing.

“Apple's approach uses both cameras at the same time. The iPhone 7 Plus blends its two cameras into one, drawing on each camera's virtues and sidestepping their weaknesses to try to get the best image possible.

That lets the telephoto lens sharpen some wider-angle photos. But it also can mean limits you might not expect -- like the effective loss of that second camera when you're shooting in dim conditions.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...les-iphone-7-plus-melds-two-cameras-into-one/
 
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I will have to keep digging as I thought I read it would ‘blend’ in WA as well. Here is an article showing how it may/may not use zoom lens for .. well zooming.

https://www.studioneat.com/blogs/main/dual-lens-switching-on-the-iphone-x
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“Apple's approach uses both cameras at the same time. The iPhone 7 Plus blends its two cameras into one, drawing on each camera's virtues and sidestepping their weaknesses to try to get the best image possible.

That lets the telephoto lens sharpen some wider-angle photos. But it also can mean limits you might not expect -- like the effective loss of that second camera when you're shooting in dim conditions.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...les-iphone-7-plus-melds-two-cameras-into-one/
That seems to be referring to digital zoom being augmented with the second lens. it's interesting if true. I had not read that before.
 
As I’m typing this on my XS Max, I’m not gonna lie - there may be a bit of buyers remorse over that extra $450 it cost me based on these reviews. I think the shocking thing is the reviews on just how well the single camera does (especially with portrait mode on the back camera).

I’m gonna have to start asking myself if I really just want the Max to have the “best” product!

Same here. But too late. Already passed my return period with my carrier. :(
 
Well this makes me a bit more excited after being so excited for the Max and having to return it due to headache/eye strain issues.

I’m only coming from 8+, so I know the improvement won’t be drastic, but I am expecting to really like the size. I just feel like XS is too small (and would obviously cause the same eye strain issues as the Max anyway). I’m hoping this will be a sweet spot size-wise for me.
 
That seems to be referring to digital zoom being augmented with the second lens. it's interesting if true. I had not read that before.

It states WA is supplemented with telephoto data. The early implementation of this was the reason I went back to the 6S+ from the 7+. I was having really bad image issues (Apple acknowledged.. to me anyways) that couldn’t be resolved via software (at the time) or by phone replacement. I am not 100% sure the X/XS/XSM do this still today or maybe it has been improved.. but I am still gun-shy..

FWIW.. I am likely to get the XS still. XR is possible but I really do want a smaller phone.
 
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I use my phone during the day but once I get home, onto the charger it goes & I break out the iPad. The XR will handle my photo needs. It’s not like I use the phone as my primary driver to watch videos or other entertainment. My current phone is a 6S Plus with battery issues, it’s time to upgrade. If I notice the XR screen is really bad I will return it. I bet it’ll be just fine for email, Twitter, Facebook & cruising the forums on my lunch hour.
 
It's solid lower cost option, just like everyone expected.
Except the camera seems to be better in low light on the XR?

I got the XR, but if I was an XS/Max user I’d expect Apple to update the camera software.

No excuses for the XR to take better pictures than the XS/Max.
 
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Except the camera seems to be better in low light on the XR?

I got the XR, but if I was an XS/Max user I’d expect Apple to update the camera software.

No excuses for the XR to take better pictures than the XS/Max.
Its only an issue with portrait mode in low light.

The XS uses the telephoto which has a smaller aperture (so lets in less light) and uses the wide for depth. That's why portrait mode works on the XS for things besides faces, but only faces on XR – since it has no depth perception.

John Gruber pointed out that if you just don't shoot in portrait mode in low light you can use the wide angle lens on the XS.

If Apple let users use the wide angle lens for portrait mode on the XS, sometimes it would only work with faces, and sometimes it would works with objects. Apple chose to make portrait mode always work with everything on the XS to make it less confusing.
 
I want one but I’m waiting for the sim-free version. If Apple doesn’t release one, oh well no Xr for me.
 
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Except the camera seems to be better in low light on the XR?

I got the XR, but if I was an XS/Max user I’d expect Apple to update the camera software.

No excuses for the XR to take better pictures than the XS/Max.

It's still a solid lower cost option? I am not sure what you are saying here. I am happy with my Max as is. If they happen to make a software adjustment, that's cool by me, but I am not sitting here expecting them to or upset that the XR takes better low light pictures.
 
Except the camera seems to be better in low light on the XR?

I got the XR, but if I was an XS/Max user I’d expect Apple to update the camera software.

No excuses for the XR to take better pictures than the XS/Max.
It’s better in portrait mode in low light. That’s it. They are the same if you ate just taking a shot in low light using the wide angle camera.
 
350$ cheaper for better battery life and worse screen. It's also a bit smaller and lighter than the Max.

Sounds good to me!
 
It's a great phone by all accounts, but having the best screen possible is more than worth 250 (or 350) to me.

I actually don't get how 250 makes such a big difference to people when they are already shelling out that much money.
 
It's a great phone by all accounts, but having the best screen possible is more than worth 250 (or 350) to me.

I actually don't get how 250 makes such a big difference to people when they are already shelling out that much money.
You don’t get it? £250 is a chunk of money and £750 is already a lot of money for a mobile phone. Pushing it further to £1k makes it a significant purchase which may not be a big deal to you but not everybody has a grand to blow on a phone that easily.

You give a good point about yourself in the first paragraph where you state the screen quality is worth paying more for. That’s a subjective set of criteria that many including myself don’t overly care about when buying a smartphone. It’s about value for money to the individual and I think these super expensive smartphones appeal to a limited market whereas the XR is ideal for the mainstream consumer wanting a decent phone without the financial strain.
 
It's a great phone by all accounts, but having the best screen possible is more than worth 250 (or 350) to me.

I actually don't get how 250 makes such a big difference to people when they are already shelling out that much money.

If you want more storage, try $350. Xr 128gb $799. Xs 256gb (128gb not offered), $1149. And for $1149 I can buy multiple different macbooks for that kind of money, or a pretty damn nice 4k Sony display for $350 less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It's a great phone by all accounts, but having the best screen possible is more than worth 250 (or 350) to me.

I actually don't get how 250 makes such a big difference to people when they are already shelling out that much money.

This is kind of where I am at also, at least with the screen part of it. Having the best screen is worth it to me as I tend to notice the others at this point. I also don't see $250 as a huge amount for the differences you are getting with the XS line. To each their own though, the XR is still a great option.
 
I know this will go down badly, but anyone who pays an extra £50 for the XR over an S9 needs their head checking.
The only issue I’d have with that is they use different platforms. The hardware of the S9 is awesome but it runs Android and for those of us who use iOS between multiple devices, it’s an expensive switch as it’s not just the phone that needs to be changed. I do think saving an extra 50 quid (£94 in my case) and buying the 8+ was a wiser buy though.
 
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It's a great phone by all accounts, but having the best screen possible is more than worth 250 (or 350) to me.

I actually don't get how 250 makes such a big difference to people when they are already shelling out that much money.

It’s $450 if you compare XR 128gb vs XS Max 256gb (if Max had a 128 option, I would have probably gone with that one).
 
£250 (or £350) for a better screen isn’t worth it for me but it’s well worth that to be able to actually fit the phone in my pocket!
 
As I’m typing this on my XS Max, I’m not gonna lie - there may be a bit of buyers remorse over that extra $450 it cost me based on these reviews. I think the shocking thing is the reviews on just how well the single camera does (especially with portrait mode on the back camera).

I’m gonna have to start asking myself if I really just want the Max to have the “best” product!

Don’t forget that it seems like portrait mode can only be used on human faces. If you like using portrait mode a lot for random stuff, that’s a dealbreaker.
 
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I bought the x 2018 about 2 weeks before the xr release for me the xr is a bit too big for a decent one handed use , x is just right.
 
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