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sharik2009

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Jul 22, 2017
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Hey guys. I have noticed some framerate drops after the update. My animations are not running smooth all the time. There is some stuttering here and there. Does anyone has the same issue?

(Updated from Beta 6 directly to the final version and resetted the settings)
 

Galacticos

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Umm, but why? You're phone is probably crying to be reset. You are also probably missing 4-5GB of space as its being used for system cache by now. I restart my phone every 72 hours. Even those short bursts give me 200+ MB back per restart.

No downside to restarts?

For some reason I try not to do them too often, maybe once a month or something. I should do it more often
 

miragebg

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Is it possible my 6S to throttle more often on 10.3.3 than on 10.2? I see some lag and stutter in some apps, when the phone heats up a bit... wasn't so on 10.2. May be should have stayed on it....:(
 

Galacticos

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I used to think I'd stay on a certain OS for performance or battery but now I view it simply as I must upgrade for security purposes and if i get a bad OS i'll just have to wait for the next one to come around and hope it's better.

I don't think holding on to 3/4/5 or more generations old OS's is wise
 
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Mlrollin91

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Nov 20, 2008
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No downside to restarts?

For some reason I try not to do them too often, maybe once a month or something. I should do it more often
I've been restarting my devices every 72 hours for 10 years, never an issue.
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When you say restart do you just mean turned off and back on or hard restarted or reset?

If the latter, how do you exactly do that?
Hold the power button, slide to power off. Just a simple soft reset. In Apple's terminology, reset is powering off/on. Restore is wiping the device.
 

Galacticos

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I've been restarting my devices every 72 hours for 10 years, never an issue.
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Hold the power button, slide to power off. Just a simple soft reset. In Apple's terminology, reset is powering off/on. Restore is wiping the device.

What is holding power and the 'vol down' button (or on older iPhones the home button) called?
 

Mlrollin91

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What is holding power and the 'vol down' button (or on older iPhones the home button) called?
Hard reset. This is because the device is not shutting down properly, you are just forcing it to turn off. Like holding the power button on a computer.
 
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sbailey4

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Dec 5, 2011
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Please let us know if resetting all settings does help the battery issue. I'm not eager to try it, as it's a PITA to rebuild my settings (and I don't really understand how an update could cause a settings-related battery issue)... thx
This is two-fold. One: settings are added,removed and changed between iOS versions so resetting to defaults gets all that sorted. Two: It resets problems that may be hung or corrupt from a process running while the update was being applied. Like iCloud getting hung in a communication process while the update was being applied as an example. Or other type of network communication getting hung up and causing the device to constantly run it and getting warm/hot. It DOES help and has been a know fix for a long time. Back since iOS 5 days (maybe earlier) the reset all settings, then let battery drain until device cuts off and charge fully unattended maybe 30 minutes past 100% was a common fix for battery drain issues. That process is still valid today.

What is holding power and the 'vol down' button (or on older iPhones the home button) called?
That would be a hard reboot. Like pulling the plug on a PC without a graceful shutdown.
 

Galacticos

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Hard reset. This is because the device is not shutting down properly, you are just forcing it to turn off. Like holding the power button on a computer.

Is this worse than a soft reset? Is it bad for the device in any way?

My understanding was 'not really'
I've more or less only used this to off and on again my phone when I feel like some freshness
 

Mlrollin91

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Is this worse than a soft reset? Is it bad for the device in any way?

My understanding was 'not really'

Technically yes. @sbailey4 has explained in the past and just above. Its pulling the power to the device without letting it shut down. Meaning anything still running (processors and services) are immediately killed. It is not giving it the time to finish up and shut down "softly". Its literally pulling the power plug on your computer, or holding the power button until its off.
 

Galacticos

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Technically yes. @sbailey4 has explained in the past and just above. Its pulling the power to the device without letting it shut down. Meaning anything still running (processors and services) are immediately killed. It is not giving it the time to finish up and shut down "softly". Its literally pulling the power plug on your computer, or holding the power button until its off.

In all my troubleshooting with Apple I dont think they've ever told me to try turning the phone off before telling me to do a hard reset. :confused:
 

Mlrollin91

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In all my troubleshooting with Apple I dont think they've ever told me to try turning the phone off before telling me to do a hard reset. :confused:
Thats the point of hard reset, its meant for troubleshooting only. Years ago, apple told me to do a hard reset after installing iOS updates to kill any unnecessary processes or prevent something form getting stuck. @sbailey4 saw me recommending this a couple years back and corrected me on it. That it might be doing more harm than good because its not letting iOS calm down after the install.

Hard reset is for when the phone glitches out and you are unable to softly reset it. Its a fail-safe to get the phone to reboot.
 
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Galacticos

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Thats the point of hard reset, its meant for troubleshooting only. Years ago, apple told me to do a hard reset after installing iOS updates to kill any unnecessary processes or prevent something form getting stuck. @sbailey4 saw me recommending this a couple years back and corrected me on it. That it might be doing more harm than good because its not letting iOS calm down after the install.

Hard reset is for when the phone glitches out and you are unable to softly reset it. Its a fail-safe to get the phone to reboot.

Such a simple thing. Thanks for setting me straight
 

corruptdream

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Jun 24, 2010
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how it's compare with 10.3.1 ? battery i mean. ( i had installed 10.3.2 but after couple of days of ussage i was back to 10.3.1 witch is 20-30 % better in terms of battery ussage ) thx.
 

Galacticos

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how it's compare with 10.3.1 ? battery i mean. ( i had installed 10.3.2 but after couple of days of ussage i was back to 10.3.1 witch is 20-30 % better in terms of battery ussage ) thx.

Id say the battery is slightly worse but tolerable.
 

CTHarrryH

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In terms of the security updates associated with latest. I read that since they have now been "fixed" in IOS the actual details of how your security could be breached will be released by the person who discovered it. So although people who might not have known before will know shortly and thus greatly expands the risk. I think protecting from breaches is worth an update
 

Frankras

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Mar 9, 2012
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Its horrible...internet very slow than before. I am on an iPhone SE. I will reboot my router to see if that helps but never had this issue on 10.3.2 until now after this update.

Have you tried to turn off the iPhone SE and turn it on again.

It used to help on my my android devices. So I do that on my iOS device also.

Frank
 

chillip

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I’ve reset all settings and network. Seems even more fluid now. Now bring on 11.
 

Cyberius11

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WiFi was broken for me on my iPhone 7+ and my 12.9 iPad Pro 1st gen. It stops working and I have to disconnect and reconnect for it to work again. Multiple networks. I've reset network settings and rebooted. FML
 

Galacticos

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WiFi was broken for me on my iPhone 7+ and my 12.9 iPad Pro 1st gen. It stops working and I have to disconnect and reconnect for it to work again. Multiple networks. I've reset network settings and rebooted. FML

Very frustrating bug.
 
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