iOS 10 X

[Max(IT)]

I respect your opinion, likewise others have a different opinion, not necessarily a reason to consider them a whiner.

it's not an opinion. It's a fact.
every new iOS version introduce new functionalities and it's better than the previous.

The only company capable of releasing an OS worse than the previous is Microsoft (Windows Me and Windows Vista dixit).
Even Google is constantly improving Android.

 

[Act3]

it's not an opinion. It's a fact.
every new iOS version introduce new functionalities and it's better than the previous.

The only company capable of releasing an OS worse than the previous is Microsoft (Windows Me and Windows Vista dixit).
Even Google is constantly improving Android.

show me some evidence that it is a fact.... It's still your opinion.

 

[Paddle1]

I expect iOS 10 beta to be glitchy, unstable, laggy, and stuttery... with lots of new features!

 

[Max(IT)]

show me some evidence that it is a fact.... It's still your opinion.

A list of features is a fact, not an opinion, no matter how you'd try to twist it.

 

[RebornProphet]

A list of features is a fact, not an opinion, no matter how you'd try to twist it.

It's also a fact that every year Apple rushes out a new version of iOS to accompany it's new iPhone, which is what results in the complaints.

iOS 9, now, on iOS 9.3 is brilliant but it didn't begin to show performance and smoothness on par iOS iOS 8.4.1 until 9.2 was released.

While it's obvious that a .0 release will never be perfect, I think a lot of people would prefer that Apple launch the new version of iOS when it's at its optimum performance rather than use its users as glorified beta testers for half a year and giving us the newest iOS at its optimum for 6 months.

Release it when it's fully optimised, but alas hardware and market demands dictate otherwise.

 

[C DM]

It's also a fact that every year Apple rushes out a new version of iOS to accompany it's new iPhone, which is what results in the complaints.

iOS 9, now, on iOS 9.3 is brilliant but it didn't begin to show performance and smoothness on par iOS iOS 8.4.1 until 9.2 was released.

While it's obvious that a .0 release will never be perfect, I think a lot of people would prefer that Apple launch the new version of iOS when it's at its optimum performance rather than use its users as glorified beta testers for half a year and giving us the newest iOS at its optimum for 6 months.

Release it when it's fully optimised, but alas hardware and market demands dictate otherwise.

And unfortunately so would a lot of people as well. Plenty will complain if a new iOS version isn't out with a new iPhone and plenty will complain if a new iPhone and a new iOS aren't released a year after the previous one (with quite a few wishing a new version would be out even sooner). Can't really win either way.

 

[Max(IT)]

It's also a fact that every year Apple rushes out a new version of iOS to accompany it's new iPhone, which is what results in the complaints.

iOS 9, now, on iOS 9.3 is brilliant but it didn't begin to show performance and smoothness on par iOS iOS 8.4.1 until 9.2 was released.

While it's obvious that a .0 release will never be perfect, I think a lot of people would prefer that Apple launch the new version of iOS when it's at its optimum performance rather than use its users as glorified beta testers for half a year and giving us the newest iOS at its optimum for 6 months.

Release it when it's fully optimised, but alas hardware and market demands dictate otherwise.

They can't please everyone.
Whiners gonna whine, whatever Apple is doing.
2 years cycle ? There would be people complaining about how lazy Apple is lately.

I just accept the fact that iOS X.0 can have glitches, quite sure most of them will be solved in a few months.

 

[danleon950410]

First release of a brand new version will generally have some issues here or there conspired to the last release of a previous version which had the benefit of months and months of refinement.

That's fair and rational, but only 'till some point. Breaking functionality in some features is a complete different story.

 

[C DM]

That's fair and rational, but only 'till some point. Breaking functionality in some features is a complete different story.

Seems like most of the discussions aren't about broken functionality though.

 

[danleon950410]

I still have to see one version of iOS that's worse than the previous.
Every single version in way better, with new functionalities and support for new hardware.
A few glitches when you introduce new functionalities are to be expected.

But what about the older hardware? At least 1 year old hardware?
Imagine that you don't get the latest iPhone, the one that they just launched. You CAN'T say that this new version is better. You can only enjoy it at the end of it's life cycle, a few months before the next bowl of bug-soup drops. (When Apple finally polishes its issues and glitches)
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Seems like most of the discussions aren't about broken functionality though.

Most, that's correct. Opinions drive it off-topic.

 

[Max(IT)]

But what about the older hardware? At least 1 year old hardware?
Imagine that you don't get the latest iPhone, the one that they just launched. You CAN'T say that this new version is better. You can only enjoy it at the end of it's life cycle, a few months before the next bowl of bug-soup drops. (When Apple finally polishes its issues and glitches)

As you can see in my signature, I'm enjoying iOS 9 on two years old devices like an iPad Air and an iPhone 5S.
They are great.

 

[Radon87000]

I really hope iOS 10 can acheive what it sets out to do as iOS 9 failed miserably at what it was advertised to do

 

[Armen]

I really hope iOS 10 can acheive what it sets out to do as iOS 9 failed miserably at what it was advertised to do

Considering nothing pleases you and you complain about everything I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you.

 

[WordMasterRice]

And unfortunately so would a lot of people as well. Plenty will complain if a new iOS version isn't out with a new iPhone and plenty will complain if a new iPhone and a new iOS aren't released a year after the previous one (with quite a few wishing a new version would be out even sooner). Can't really win either way.

They shouldn't be trying to win, they should be trying to do what is best for the platform. If they can't win either way then just take some time to not break everything and get it shored up. At this rate they are adding more features faster than they are fixing bugs with the old ones.

 

[Radon87000]

Considering nothing pleases you and you complain about everything I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you.

I was pleased with iOS 8.4.1 on both my iPad and iPhone

 

[dk001]

Are you basing your statement that optimization was to be delivered in iOS 9.0? Like MaxIT said iOS 9.3.2 will most likely be the last iOS 9 build until September of this year.

Unfortunately, those 5-6 months where iOS 9 will be perfect will not be appreciated because the users here will all jump on the iOS 10 Beta 1 Whine train.

For it to be "perfect" that will have to be one honkin' heck of an update.
Don't think that will happen.

 

[DoctorKrabs]

A list of features is a fact, not an opinion, no matter how you'd try to twist it.

Don't use my rhetoric and expect to work for you. You're literally saying that every newer version of iOS has been "better". I'll even quote you.

it's not an opinion. It's a fact.
every new iOS version introduce new functionalities and it's better than the previous.

You have demonstrated absolutely no ability to put yourself in another user's perspective and nobody should consider any arguments you make valid ones.

I swear that if Apple literally came out and said that slavery is a good thing, you'd agree and say "haters gonna hate on Apple's sucess!!!!!111!!"

 

[dk001]

it's not an opinion. It's a fact.
every new iOS version introduce new functionalities and it's better than the previous.

The only company capable of releasing an OS worse than the previous is Microsoft (Windows Me and Windows Vista dixit).
Even Google is constantly improving Android.

Fact?
If the new version adds / changes 9 things that make it better while breaking / degrading 5 things and adds a function that slows down the execution of tasks... this is better?
I see it as a mixed bag. Better is very subjective in a case like this.

 

[BillyMatt87]

I still have to see one version of iOS that's worse than the previous.

Pretty much every iOS update after 6.1
[doublepost=1454444850][/doublepost]Actually iOS 7 is the first update that I can remember Apple actually removing features.

For example:

- The ability to swipe up and reject a call on the lock screen (introduced in iOS 6, removed in 7)
- The social media and weather forecast widgets in the Notification Center (removed in iOS 7 but still present in the OS X NC)

The awful music app that debuted in iOS 8.4 actually removed a bunch of features that were always there.

Examples include:

- The landscape mode, now nothing happens in the music app when you flip your iPhone horizontally. Sure, the album art tiles from iOS 7-8.3 was not as fun and intuitive as the amazing coverflow interface, but just removing the landscape mode altogether and not replacing it with anything was a terrible mistake and a waste of the accelerometer's abilities and the larger iPhone displays.

- Shake-to-Shuffle was a great feature that made shuffling music easier and fun. Also it was completely optional in the settings so why remove it completely?

So yes, Apple has been removing features from iOS for no real good reason and not replacing them with better solutions just shows how lazy they've become when it comes to iOS development.

 

[CTHarrryH]

To me every version has been better than the past. IOS9 in all it forms has been the fastest and smoothest IOS I have run. I would think from all these threads that it all depends upon what applications people run and how they run them. A lot of application developers haven't kept up and they have written apps that cause problems.

 

[lagwagon]

I was pleased with iOS 8.4.1 on both my iPad and iPhone

And many people were not pleased with any version of iOS 8. Just like you aren't pleased with any version of iOS 9 but many are pleased with iOS 9.

Tables have turned and you flip flop and ignore the "other" side of the fence depending on which side you are standing on at the time.

 

[Merkie]

I can easily predict future...
iOS 9.3.2 will be perfect, performance wise, then Apple will release iOS 10 and the forum will be flooded by whiners complaining about how good iOS 9 was and how terrible iOS 10 is.

Every single year.

People compare new stuff to previous stuff. What's so weird about that? Year over year regression is worth a complaint.

 

[C DM]

People compare new stuff to previous stuff. What's so weird about that? Year over year regression is worth a complaint.

Nothing is wrong, as long as the differences and context are accounted for.

 

[dk001]

To me every version has been better than the past. IOS9 in all it forms has been the fastest and smoothest IOS I have run. I would think from all these threads that it all depends upon what applications people run and how they run them. A lot of application developers haven't kept up and they have written apps that cause problems.

I guess Apple did miss the mark keeping their apps up to date and running smoothly on iOS 9. oops

 

[Radon87000]

And many people were not pleased with any version of iOS 8. Just like you aren't pleased with any version of iOS 9 but many are pleased with iOS 9.

Tables have turned and you flip flop and ignore the "other" side of the fence depending on which side you are standing on at the time.

Maybe because I was running iOS 8 on the latest flagships of those time.Pretty sure if I was using iOS 9 on a 6S and a iPad Pro I wouldn't have anything to complain about