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Will iOS 10 have a proper redesign?

  • Yes: The current UI has gotten stale and needs an overhaul

    Votes: 65 25.2%
  • No: Apple will drag it out the current UI as long as they can

    Votes: 193 74.8%

  • Total voters
    258

mrex

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I can easily predict future...
iOS 9.3.2 will be perfect, performance wise, then Apple will release iOS 10 and the forum will be flooded by whiners complaining about how good iOS 9 was and how terrible iOS 10 is.

Every single year.

With Apple it is easy to predict, because on every single year their first version works quite awfully, and you see several stability updates and fixes following the launching.

But I dont know how good apple mushrooms are, but they may be quite an experience, if someone likes unstable os...
 

Radon87000

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With Apple it is easy to predict, because on every single year their first version works quite awfully, and you see several stability updates and fixes following the launching.

But I dont know how good apple mushrooms are, but they may be quite an experience, if someone likes unstable os...
Whats even more embarassing is that new itineration is even buggier than the newest version of Android!
 
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Max(IT)

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With Apple it is easy to predict, because on every single year their first version works quite awfully, and you see several stability updates and fixes following the launching.

But I dont know how good apple mushrooms are, but they may be quite an experience, if someone likes unstable os...
With Apple ? Go find some threads about android first versions of the new OS .... if you are lucky enough to receive it on your android device ....

Every software has glitches, fixed with patches.
I know that when I install the versions X.0 of every software.

I don't know about mushrooms: I can't find any on Apple website.
 

Max(IT)

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Whats even more embarassing is that new itineration is even buggier than the newest version of Android!
Lol, since you like Google so much, go searching for lollipop complaining at the time of the launch. It screwed both my nexus 5 and nexus 7 at the time. Same is happening with the new "candy" Google is SLOWLY releasing to a few "lucky" users....
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Can you prove this? You are citing opinion as fact.
No he can't.
With any search engine you can look for android bugs and glitches related to new versions...

A bug free software doesn't exist.
 
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C DM

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Whats even more embarassing is that new itineration is even buggier than the newest version of Android!
Why does anyone care about something irrelevant as that (not even going into whether or not that's actually the case)?
 

mrex

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With Apple ? Go find some threads about android first versions of the new OS .... if you are lucky enough to receive it on your android device ....Every software has glitches, fixed with patches. I know that when I install the versions X.0 of every software. I don't know about mushrooms: I can't find any on Apple website.

i thought you were talking about ios and people whining about their ios experiences - so im not sure how android is related to that... but it is always nice to know that if you have problem with ios and its bugs you can tell yourself that they are just little hiccups and if you still feel upset, start bashing android and its huge bugs...
 

Zirel

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With Apple it is easy to predict, because on every single year their first version works quite awfully, and you see several stability updates and fixes following the launching.

But I dont know how good apple mushrooms are, but they may be quite an experience, if someone likes unstable os...

*looking at your avatar* You could at least try to hide it.
 
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I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
Lol, since you like Google so much, go searching for lollipop complaining at the time of the launch. It screwed both my nexus 5 and nexus 7 at the time. Same is happening with the new "candy" Google is SLOWLY releasing to a few "lucky" users....
[doublepost=1454597972][/doublepost]
No he can't.
With any search engine you can look for android bugs and glitches related to new versions...

A bug free software doesn't exist.
I don't expect a "real" answer but it looks like that post fits the well-known definition.
 

Act3

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So now marketing is now a fact , not an opinion. Lmao. Still waiting to see the performance improvements. They got to be there, it's a fact, Apple says so. Oh wait, different argument with different posters.

Looks like an opinionated statement to me

"And improvements at the foundation of the operating system enhance performance, battery life, and security. The more you do with iOS 9, the more you’ll wonder how you ever did without it."

Yep. Not sure how I got by with my iPad and iPhone last summer without iOS 9. Geez
 

Max(IT)

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i thought you were talking about ios and people whining about their ios experiences - so im not sure how android is related to that... but it is always nice to know that if you have problem with ios and its bugs you can tell yourself that they are just little hiccups and if you still feel upset, start bashing android and its huge bugs...
I'll tell you a secret: iOS is SOFTWARE, and all the software (Android included) has bugs and glitches. The more complex is the software, the most probable glitches are.
Apple , like any software company, works to solve most of them.
 

Radon87000

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If Apple forces people to upgrade and the masses fall for it, there won't be declining sales, there will be increasing sales. Maybe their strategy will pay off?o_O
They did increase.People are now starting to realise the tricks Apple is employing hence I am hoping the declining sales will force Apple to pay attention to year old devices

Can you prove this? You are citing opinion as fact.
It took iOS 8 four versions before it was stable enough to be a daily driver and it was only till it reached iOS 8.4.1 did it become perfect.iOS 9 even bricked certain iPhones with the slide to upgrade bug.Then the WiFi issue in iOS 8 is well documented.Even iOS 7 had horrible lag issues with 7.0 and it took 7.1.2 to fix.In contrast Android Lollipop vs KitKat had far few gamestopping issues
 

Zirel

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Lol, since you like Google so much, go searching for lollipop complaining at the time of the launch. It screwed both my nexus 5 and nexus 7 at the time. Same is happening with the new "candy" Google is SLOWLY releasing to a few "lucky" users....

Back then, I had a Galaxy Nexus, and the Bluetooth worked fine with my car until 4.1, on 4.2, it stopped working for my car, and many more (specially German cars).

I dug why, and Google replaced BlueZ bluetooth stack with another stack made by Qualcomm. No new features!

Just to make Android more controlled by big corporations that are part of Open Handset Alliance, they don't care about losing their costumers!

The difference, is that when you go to XDA developers, is that they will tell you to Flash some ROM or Kernel, or Makeshift fix, maybe blame the OEM, but never, ever, ever, point your finger to Android or Google!
 
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C DM

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They did increase.People are now starting to realise the tricks Apple is employing hence I am hoping the declining sales will force Apple to pay attention to year old devices


It took iOS 8 four versions before it was stable enough to be a daily driver and it was only till it reached iOS 8.4.1 did it become perfect.iOS 9 even bricked certain iPhones with the slide to upgrade bug.Then the WiFi issue in iOS 8 is well documented.Even iOS 7 had horrible lag issues with 7.0 and it took 7.1.2 to fix.In contrast Android Lollipop vs KitKat had far few gamestopping issues
So based on that sounds like Android is the way to go.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
They did increase.People are now starting to realise the tricks Apple is employing hence I am hoping the declining sales will force Apple to pay attention to year old devices


It took iOS 8 four versions before it was stable enough to be a daily driver and it was only till it reached iOS 8.4.1 did it become perfect.iOS 9 even bricked certain iPhones with the slide to upgrade bug.Then the WiFi issue in iOS 8 is well documented.Even iOS 7 had horrible lag issues with 7.0 and it took 7.1.2 to fix.In contrast Android Lollipop vs KitKat had far few gamestopping issues
Whatever apples plan is they have already thought it through and are in execution at this point. A declining sales quarter still could be a record breaker; you do know that.

Also iOS 9 has very few "gamestopping" issues.
 

lagwagon

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Many would say that 7.1.2 was better, and others that 6.1.3 was.

But he wouldn't know that, because he's even admitted that he has only been using iOS since 8.1. He's still new to iOS and has no clue this same thing and same complaints happen year after year whenever the new version is out.
 

trifid

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But he wouldn't know that, because he's even admitted that he has only been using iOS since 8.1. He's still new to iOS and has no clue this same thing and same complaints happen year after year whenever the new version is out.

I've been an iPhone user since iPhone 1, when it comes to responsiveness iOS6 won easily against iOS7 in part for the fact that iOS7 relied heavily on translucency which took a hit on performance. I remember upgrading my iPad 4 which was a speed beast on iOS6, and felt quite sluggish on iOS7, particularly the keyboard responsiveness and safari navigation took a significant hit.

iOS8 vs iOS7 also was a bit slower in terms of snappiness/responsiveness.

To a certain extent it's understandable that a new OS will not be as snappy as the older, there are exceptions, but usually this is the case due to new features etc.

Now with iOS9, unlike other iOS releases, for the first time, Apple took the boldness of claiming "Under-the-hood refinements bring you more responsive performance..." and it actually ended up being worse. This is why I believe in part, all the user outrage is rightfully justified, and Apple deserves all the heat they got on it.

I also believe Apple deserves all the pressure/criticism because not only their advertising was misleading/wrong but they also forbid users from downgrading to a previous iOS.

So if I upgraded to the new OS believing that Apple's advertising was right, I'd be screwed because I can't downgrade. I mean sure, you can downgrade for like 1-2 weeks after release, but still, that's assuming one upgrades the same day the OS is released, and that's assuming you realize there is something wrong within those 1-2 weeks for which you can't adapt/compromise, otherwise you are screwed.
 
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C DM

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I've been an iPhone user since iPhone 1, when it comes to responsiveness iOS6 won easily against iOS7 in part for the fact that iOS7 relied heavily on translucency which took a hit on performance. I remember upgrading my iPad 4 which was a speed beast on iOS6, and felt quite sluggish on iOS7, particularly the keyboard responsiveness and safari navigation took a significant hit.

iOS8 vs iOS7 also was a bit slower in terms of snappiness/responsiveness.

To a certain extent it's understandable that a new OS will not be as snappy as the older, there are exceptions, but usually this is the case due to new features etc.

Now with iOS9, unlike other iOS releases, for the first time, Apple took the boldness of claiming "Under-the-hood refinements bring you more responsive performance..." and it actually ended up being worse. This is why I believe in part, all the user outrage is rightfully justified, and Apple deserves all the heat they got on it.

I also believe Apple deserves all the pressure/criticism because not only their advertising was misleading/wrong but also they forbid users to go back to a previous iOS.

So if I upgraded to the new OS believing that Apple's advertising was right, I'd be screwed because I can't downgrade. I mean sure, you can downgrade for like 1-2 weeks after release, but still, that's assuming one upgrades the same day the OS is released, and that's assumed you realize there is something wrong within those 1-2 weeks, otherwise you are screwed.
While I agree that the whole thing about what they said and what they delivered doesn't quite add up--sometimes more so for some people than others--doing things simply based on advertisements and marketing (no matter what those things are) is generally not the best idea all around. It doesn't make one thing better or worse than the other, but it's still something that is part of it all.
 
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dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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Can you prove this? You are citing opinion as fact.

It's all opinion. Gather all the "facts" and the interpretation makes an opinion. It's harder on Android to get a clear picture due to the plethora of OEMs.
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I'll tell you a secret: iOS is SOFTWARE, and all the software (Android included) has bugs and glitches. The more complex is the software, the most probable glitches are.
Apple , like any software company, works to solve most of them.

Apple does? Then when are they going to fix email? :(
 
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