iOS 10 X

[XTheLancerX]

Now with iOS9, unlike other iOS releases, for the first time, Apple took the boldness of claiming "Under-the-hood refinements bring you more responsive performance..." and it actually ended up being worse. This is why I believe in part, all the user outrage is rightfully justified, and Apple deserves all the heat they got on it.

I also believe Apple deserves all the pressure/criticism because not only their advertising was misleading/wrong but they also forbid users from downgrading to a previous iOS.

So if I upgraded to the new OS believing that Apple's advertising was right, I'd be screwed because I can't downgrade. I mean sure, you can downgrade for like 1-2 weeks after release, but still, that's assuming one upgrades the same day the OS is released, and that's assuming you realize there is something wrong within those 1-2 weeks for which you can't adapt/compromise, otherwise you are screwed.

iOS 9.3 is doing great so far. Well, beta 1 was great, beta 2, not so much. I'm assuming it's just a blip since it's still in beta, and it will be fixed. Beta 1 was a whole worlds difference on my mini 2, for the first time in my iPad's lifetime (I have had it since iOS 7.0.3 I believe is what it was on) spotlight was perfectly smooth. Control center improved dramatically, keyboard was a bit smoother/snappier, opening apps was quicker, app switcher was almost perfect. You could sit at the home screen, go to the app switcher, and go back and it would all be a perfect 60fps for the first time. However if you were going into the app switcher from an app rather than the homescreen, it still had it's usual hiccups. Better than 9.2 still though. This was with beta 1.

Beta 2 though, iPad mini 2 is once again a wreck. Horrible notification center now, bad app switcher again, bad spotlight again... iPhone 5 went downhill too, now it has a laggy control center, spotlight, and notification center, where it all was previously beating the iPhone 6 when both were on 9.2. Really hoping they just readjusted Metal and OpenGL, and they clean it up next time around or at least but public release. They made a huge step forward but then took two giant steps back. Really disappointing. iPhone 6 on the other hand improved with beta 2, I've heard similar reports about the 5S. Now control center is a perfect 60FPS just like in iOS 8, even over messages, open folders, app switcher, and the lock screen to name a few previous problem areas. The popup animation for airdrop is perfect everytime, which even the 6S on iOS 9.2.1 can't achieve. iPhone 6 Plus took a hit though however, similar to my iPad apparently.

Even though we took a hit on beta 2, 9.3 is bound to be a great release in terms of performance. Possibly finally bringing the promises Apple originally made. Just judging on how beta 1 was so good, we are bound to finish out in an even better or similar position in terms of fluidity. Beta 2 is just a blip in my opinion. It'll be fixed. And iOS 9 will be smooth finally.

 

[Abazigal]

None of us know what they are planning on doing. What did iOS 9.2 add for features? Heck, why is there a 9.3 release other than to add nightshift ? Was anyone expecting it ? iOS 7 only went to 7.1.2 and iOS 6 to 6.1.4 Who knows? Maybe a 9.4 will be needed to support the rumored Air 3 and its rumored 4K resolution ? iOS 9.1 added the support for the iPad Pro. So what is the basis of using statements like "most likely be the last version before iOS 10"?

iOS 9.3 also adds classroom management features for iPads in schools. I am guessing Apple is feeling threatened by the growing popularity of chrome books in the education sector and decided they couldn't afford to wait another half year for iOS 10 to ship.

 

[Max(IT)]

It took iOS 8 four versions before it was stable enough to be a daily driver and it was only till it reached iOS 8.4.1 did it become perfect.iOS 9 even bricked certain iPhones with the slide to upgrade bug.Then the WiFi issue in iOS 8 is well documented.Even iOS 7 had horrible lag issues with 7.0 and it took 7.1.2 to fix.In contrast Android Lollipop vs KitKat had far few gamestopping issues

Lol at you speaking about lag on iOS 7 when your first iOS experience was with iOS 8.1 ...

Agrees.But I still say that 8.4.1 was the best iOS ever and beat Android in fluidity.

Goodbye then. You can find several smartphones running android...

 

[Radon87000]

Lol at you speaking about lag on iOS 7 when your first iOS experience was with iOS 8.1 ...


Goodbye then. You can find several smartphones running android...

There are well documented reports on the web about iOS 7.0 lagging

 

[sanke1]

iOS 10 only needs proper file system support like Andriod where we can drag/drop/share files with each other.

That will truly blur the gap between both the operating systems.

If they do that, I am willing to give up my stutter complaints for it!

 

[Radon87000]

Let me add that hopefully Metal isn't the unoptimised mess that it is in iOS 9

 

[bbfc]

iOS 9.3 fixes A LOT of the performance and stuttering and lag and etc etc. Hopefully iOS 10 will not undo that.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

I've been an iPhone user since iPhone 1, when it comes to responsiveness iOS6 won easily against iOS7 in part for the fact that iOS7 relied heavily on translucency which took a hit on performance. I remember upgrading my iPad 4 which was a speed beast on iOS6, and felt quite sluggish on iOS7, particularly the keyboard responsiveness and safari navigation took a significant hit.

iOS8 vs iOS7 also was a bit slower in terms of snappiness/responsiveness.

(…)

So if I upgraded to the new OS believing that Apple's advertising was right, I'd be screwed because I can't downgrade. I mean sure, you can downgrade for like 1-2 weeks after release, but still, that's assuming one upgrades the same day the OS is released, and that's assuming you realize there is something wrong within those 1-2 weeks for which you can't adapt/compromise, otherwise you are screwed.

You can disable translucency at least in IOS7. I found a posting on how to do it and I did. Only because I hate useless pseudo-gimmicks that are more sort of fashion than progress - but that might help someone who is still on IOS versions that still have the possibility to disable this "feature" . It´s said that Translucency consumes a lot of performance of the CPU, so it´s not only forcing down performance but also draining battery live. A typical example how useless UI-fashion can influence and negatively impact real life daily needs...

It is really worth a try to disable translucency. Or perhaps disable also other UI-fashion-pseudo-innovation of later IOS versions.
I am very happy since… and still on IOS7…
7.1.2 is now very good performing (and enough for my personal needs).

 

[TurboPGT!]

So there was a report last year that Apple was putting a huge focus on optimization for iOS 9, but turns out that didn't happen.

Actually it did, beta 1 was immediately better than iOS 8, and the final release/subsequent maintenance releases far better.

Only in Macrumors land is the vocal minority's opinion considered fact.
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iOS 10 only needs proper file system support like Andriod where we can drag/drop/share files with each other.

That will truly blur the gap between both the operating systems.

If they do that, I am willing to give up my stutter complaints for it!

No one cares about that. At all. This isnt 1995. Any serious person with files on their device is already using a cloud filesystem.

 

[Deeznuts.]

These are you guys.
iOS 6 - iOS 6 is solid. iOS 7 is going to be better.
iOS 7 - This release is full of bugs, iOS 6 was the best.
iOS 8 - Still has bugs. iOS 9, oh rootless? That should be good, no bugs.
iOS 9 - Worst iOS verison ever. Too much bugs. Can't wait for iOS 10.

 

[sanke1]

No one cares about that. At all. This isnt 1995. Any serious person with files on their device is already using a cloud filesystem.

Hahahhahha

Any serious person with files on their device is NOT using a cloud filesystem.

There. Fixed it for you.

Not everyone has unlimited data connectivity.

But Apple loves you already!

 

[Radon87000]

You can disable translucency at least in IOS7. I found a posting on how to do it and I did. Only because I hate useless pseudo-gimmicks that are more sort of fashion than progress - but that might help someone who is still on IOS versions that still have the possibility to disable this "feature" . It´s said that Translucency consumes a lot of performance of the CPU, so it´s not only forcing down performance but also draining battery live. A typical example how useless UI-fashion can influence and negatively impact real life daily needs...

It is really worth a try to disable translucency. Or perhaps disable also other UI-fashion-pseudo-innovation of later IOS versions.
I am very happy since… and still on IOS7…
7.1.2 is now very good performing (and enough for my personal needs).

Except disabling transparency makes iOS 9 look worse than iOS 6.It looks worse than Windows 98

 

[MrAverigeUser]

Except disabling transparency makes iOS 9 look worse than iOS 6.It looks worse than Windows 98

maybe. But that is sort f a luxury problem...

For me it is more about Form follows Function,
for Jony Ive and other apple customers than me it is more about Function follows Form …

I prefer always to drive an unwashed car with perfect brakes than to drive a shiny car with inferior brakes.
If I was forced to choose one of both possible cars…

 

[trifid]

maybe. But that is sort f a luxury problem...

For me it is more about Form follows Function,
for Jony Ive and other apple customers than me it is more about Function follows Form …

I prefer always to drive an unwashed car with perfect brakes than to drive a shiny car with inferior brakes.
If I was forced to choose one of both possible cars…

You know, I actually think it's the opposite, I think there is a lot of fashion first, function second under Ive's reign. I know a lot of people hated skeuomorphism under Forstall (ie leather/paper texture etc), but am I the only one that finds overuse of translucency equally or even more distracting/annoying at times?

And what about things like buttons in OS7+ being just plain text, there isn't a visual cue to distinguish a text label from a button sometimes, so the user may be disoriented. So it seems to me it looks cool being minimalist at the expense of usability/function, no?

 

[CTHarrryH]

iOS 10 only needs proper file system support like Andriod where we can drag/drop/share files with each other.

That will truly blur the gap between both the operating systems.

If they do that, I am willing to give up my stutter complaints for it!

I don't think that will happen - that is not the way the iPhone was developed and every statement about it Apple has said that won't happen - of course that doesn't mean it won't but with Apple's emphasis on security and safety I can't see them allowing people to play with the file system. It may not truly be that way but it is still designed to just work.

I need to add, since the other "side" gets the press here, that my IOS9 gives me the fastest smoothest iPhone I've had. I'm not denying that some are having performance issues which sound better in 9.3 but there is obviously a difference in the way some use or what applications they run than others which causes problems for some

 

[I7guy]

Except disabling transparency makes iOS 9 look worse than iOS 6.It looks worse than Windows 98

Nah, I like iOS 9 with transparency disabled. I made windows 10 look like Windows 98.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

You know, I actually think it's the opposite, I think there is a lot of fashion first, function second under Ive's reign.

But this is exactly what I wanted to say… read again..

You know, I actually think it's the opposite, I think there is a lot of fashion first, function second under Ive's reign. I know a lot of people hated skeuomorphism under Forstall (ie leather/paper texture etc), but am I the only one that finds overuse of translucency equally or even more distracting/annoying at times?

And what about things like buttons in OS7+ being just plain text, there isn't a visual cue to distinguish a text label from a button sometimes, so the user may be disoriented. So it seems to me it looks cool being minimalist at the expense of usability/function, no?

again, here I agree partially with you.
In the mid 90´s I was one of a dozen people being invited to see and talk about high-tech medical equipment (each in several versions) of two world-leading enterprises. And one enterprise was about to do a real and radical revolution, one being also a radical change of the UI.
I proposed the most radical UI which was though absolutely straight-logical. They tended more to do it half-way. We discussed some days - and at the end I agreed. (BTW: It was the very first touch-screen in medicine as exclusive UI. 35x55 cm, in Colour ---> already the screen was about 25.000 USD). But this machine HAD to have an absolutely clear and easy to handle UI - if not, this could be lethal.

It was "skeudomorphism" at its best. the next gen after this model had ZERO skeuomorphism. People had themselves adapted in using the first "changed" machine - but also because in their daily life they were more and more used to serve themselves on GUI.

So - if you use skeuomorphism not for its own sake but to help people, it is ok.
BUT this is not "l´art pour l´art" (sadly, Joni thinks so) , it is all about nothing but ergonomic reasons.

 

[TMRJIJ]

Hahahhahha

Any serious person with files on their device is NOT using a cloud filesystem.

There. Fixed it for you.

Not everyone has unlimited data connectivity.

But Apple loves you already!

I am. All of my files are saved on iCloud Drive and Dropbox to access on any device and share with my friends.

 

[Zirel]

Hahahhahha

Any serious person with files on their device is NOT using a cloud filesystem.

There. Fixed it for you.

Not everyone has unlimited data connectivity.

But Apple loves you already!

WTF?

You don't work in a big corporation, do you? My company has terabytes of data that multiple people change at all the time. Are we all supposed to have a local copy on each phone and sync 3000 times a day?

Using local storage is the worst thing anyone can do!

It's ridiculous in 2016, to have one point of failure, no collaborative capacities, when there is 4G connectivity.

And it's also ridiculous to think that cloud storage = only available when you have connectivity.

You should talk for yourself, instead of making fun of people who have a decent understanding of the options they have, and aren't stuck in the 70's.

 

[danleon950410]

I don't have special editions and I can't see any problem

Then are those people in this forum and YouTube lying and simply bashing Apple?Thanks for lettting me know!!!

Look i get it, you "apparently" didn't get any issues. But a lot of people did on those devices (me included), and denying it is the same as claiming that water doesn't get you wet. But i don't even remember why i'm arguing with you so i'll just leave you with that
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Perhaps it's you that have a "special edition".

Yep! Me and all the people on technical forums plus people in YouTube showing all their issues on camera. That's a lot of special editions, you know?
I'd like to thank Apple for such gesture...(I'd love to not to clarify my OBVIOUS sarcasm but i've been in trouble before)

 

[dk001]

WTF?

You don't work in a big corporation, do you? My company has terabytes of data that multiple people change at all the time. Are we all supposed to have a local copy on each phone and sync 3000 times a day?

Using local storage is the worst thing anyone can do!

It's ridiculous in 2016, to have one point of failure, no collaborative capacities, when there is 4G connectivity.

And it's also ridiculous to think that cloud storage = only available when you have connectivity.

You should talk for yourself, instead of making fun of people who have a decent understanding of the options they have, and aren't stuck in the 70's.

Interesting you are embracing that route and the iCloud. Companies usually develop their own or go Box. Definitely not iCloud. Dropbox is an outlier.
For those times you don't have a connection (travel?) you need the files on device and some type of file management access.

 

[Radon87000]

maybe. But that is sort f a luxury problem...

For me it is more about Form follows Function,
for Jony Ive and other apple customers than me it is more about Function follows Form …

I prefer always to drive an unwashed car with perfect brakes than to drive a shiny car with inferior brakes.
If I was forced to choose one of both possible cars…

There is a method to get both.Material Design by Google does not use transparency and these fancy animation gimmicks and IMO has clearer text.The design Apple has adopted is flawed in that nothing but the top of the line device can handle these effects

 

[Radon87000]

WTF?

You don't work in a big corporation, do you? My company has terabytes of data that multiple people change at all the time. Are we all supposed to have a local copy on each phone and sync 3000 times a day?

Using local storage is the worst thing anyone can do!

It's ridiculous in 2016, to have one point of failure, no collaborative capacities, when there is 4G connectivity.

And it's also ridiculous to think that cloud storage = only available when you have connectivity.

You should talk for yourself, instead of making fun of people who have a decent understanding of the options they have, and aren't stuck in the 70's.

Really?What about the times when my cellular connection is spotty so I can't even access the server?How about the fact that I don't want to let a company access my data?Than there is the down time and the time for downloading which consumes precious time.

 

[Zirel]

Interesting you are embracing that route and the iCloud. Companies usually develop their own or go Box. Definitely not iCloud. Dropbox is an outlier.
For those times you don't have a connection (travel?) you need the files on device and some type of file management access.

Did I recommend iCloud?

I simply have recommend cloud services.

For example Dropbox, you can make a set of files available offline and edit those file if you want, and add new files, too. When your device has connectivity again, changes as uploaded.

 

[sanke1]

WTF?

You don't work in a big corporation, do you? My company has terabytes of data that multiple people change at all the time. Are we all supposed to have a local copy on each phone and sync 3000 times a day?

Using local storage is the worst thing anyone can do!

It's ridiculous in 2016, to have one point of failure, no collaborative capacities, when there is 4G connectivity.

And it's also ridiculous to think that cloud storage = only available when you have connectivity.

You should talk for yourself, instead of making fun of people who have a decent understanding of the options they have, and aren't stuck in the 70's.

It works for you then that's good.

Apple truly wants each and every one of the iPhone user to preferably get a 16 GB model so that they can force people to store their photos, videos and other data to iCloud. Hell, if it was possible, they would have even sold us 8/64/128 configurations. 8 GB iPhone is still sold in some markets.

The point is, cloud saving is and will always be unreliable.
Why?
1. 3G/4G network coverage remains spotty at best. Go inside a building, bam! no network.
2. Wifi has also failed on us many times with router going bust or ISP downtime.
3. So many times, my iPhone is showing full bars/dots connected to Vodafone network but actual internet was not working. Had to put it to Airplane mode 2-3 times to get internet working again.
4. We are not even talking about 3G/4G data charges. Most countries have insane data pricing. ($5 per GB in Vodafone India) is certainly not feasible. I think, UK, US and AU have even more outrageous pricing.
5. All data privacy and spying issues are not even worth the talk yet.
6. There is always a distant possibility of cloud server downtime and data not being available due to some technical difficulty.

Hence I prefer my data to remain on my phone. I backup it to my NAS which has 2 hard disk redundancy.

Now let us go On Topic!!

As far as iOS 10 is concerned, I don't have high hopes for it.

I just hope that they have spent this one year on improving Metal code so that it performs exactly as per advertised.