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to be fair it toke me under an hour restore set up as new and install apps i got ocd so everythings neat, but yeah for me its not a biggy i just find after a restore it always runs smoother not sure why but does make a diffrence
You must not have valuable conversations from loved ones
 
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well me and my girlfriend see each other like every day but thanks for caring so much about my psnl life, only trying to give advise but again a member wants to get psnl lol
You just recommended a solution that isn’t a solution for everyone like you.
 
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Battery usage stats seems a little wonky on this build. I watched Netflix for about that much time but I had my screen at full brightness and my battery dropped a good 15% or so. I am using a smart battery case as well on my 7. Funny thing is it took a few hours for this to even show up in the last 24hours section. It finally popped up a few minutes ago but I know it used more than 1% of battery.

Also noticing the usage time climbs up more often when in standby compared to iOS 10.3.3. It’s like there is more going on in the background now. I have all the same settings as before too. Over an 8 hour period of sleep the usage counts up 35-48 minutes where as on iOS 10.3.3 it was consistently only about 12-20 minutes tops over that same period.

They still have some cleanup to do with iOS 11. Standby drain is a few % higher overnight as well. Used to be 3-8% now it’s about 10 per 8-10 hours.
 

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to be fair it toke me under an hour restore set up as new and install apps i got ocd so everythings neat, but yeah for me its not a biggy i just find after a restore it always runs smoother not sure why but does make a diffrence

Good point. Every update - regular or beta driven - I always perform the Reset Settings. This advice has been driven before on this forum but I believe Apple should recommend that process on every update.

What you did is even better though, more painful but better. Will it fix everyone’s problem? No. Definitely not in this forum at least.

But some sort of reset is needed on any update. Just my humble opinion.
 
Is it just me or does this thread read as though a majority of beta 7 issues (and beta 6, and beta 5, etc.) are seen by only X users?

11.2.5 betas have been maybe the best on my 6s since iOS 10. Just curious why so many X users are seeing so many problems.
 
It would be quite helpful if you quoted the post to which you are replying... would give some context to posts like "you just recommended a solution...".
They did use use the quote function. The quote is hidden to you because you have the quoted user on ignore.
 
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I might be wrong here in the way I’m thinking. So please correct me if i am.

My understanding is that a fresh install requires putting the phone into DFU and then installing from the .ipsw from iTunes. Once this is done all apps etc are redownloaded from the App Store and nothing is restored from a backup (as the backup could potentially/in theory transfer the issue back across)? This then puts the phone as if it is your first ever iPhone and you have just taken it out the box.

Anything else is not a fresh install, or is there something i am missing?

Battery life and lag are really bad for me today. Also since updating to beta 7 my battery stats have been all over the place. I’ve done the reset all settings too, i do it religiously after each beta or GM update.

I am thinking about downgrading back to 11.2.2 and waiting for 11.3 beta.

Before anyone says, yes i know it’s a beta, I’ve been a registered Dev for 4yrs now so know how it all works. However iOS 11 has been terrible as an OS for Apple and the OS needs a complete ‘under the hood’ overhaul.

I really hope that’s the focus for iOS 12. They need to stop chasing the first $tn company status and focus again on making the OS and devices ‘special’. The $tn status would come then anyway!

MacOS High Sierra is the same.
 
Starting to notice my iPhone X starting to stutter on the animation and lag a bit. I know it’s a beta but just noting that this is the first time I’ve noticed this.
 
I might be wrong here in the way I’m thinking. So please correct me if i am.

My understanding is that a fresh install requires putting the phone into DFU and then installing from the .ipsw from iTunes. Once this is done all apps etc are redownloaded from the App Store and nothing is restored from a backup (as the backup could potentially/in theory transfer the issue back across)? This then puts the phone as if it is your first ever iPhone and you have just taken it out the box.

Anything else is not a fresh install, or is there something i am missing?

Battery life and lag are really bad for me today. Also since updating to beta 7 my battery stats have been all over the place. I’ve done the reset all settings too, i do it religiously after each beta or GM update.

I am thinking about downgrading back to 11.2.2 and waiting for 11.3 beta.

Before anyone says, yes i know it’s a beta, I’ve been a registered Dev for 4yrs now so know how it all works. However iOS 11 has been terrible as an OS for Apple and the OS needs a complete ‘under the hood’ overhaul.

I really hope that’s the focus for iOS 12. They need to stop chasing the first $tn company status and focus again on making the OS and devices ‘special’. The $tn status would come then anyway!

MacOS High Sierra is the same.

The only difference is that DFU mode bypass the boot loader/OS which allows downgrading and recovery mode doesn't bypass it and you can't downgrade. Nowadays, I believe you can even downgrade even on recovery mode compared to older iOS. A fresh install is normally setting up the device as new and manually download all apps and sign into iCloud to resync. If you restore from iCloud, it will redownload all the latest apps and sync various documents etc. The main question is can iCloud backup be corrupted? No idea, it may be possible. I believe sometimes the main battery drain is because of syncing with iCloud. Do you store everything and backup everything to iCloud/iCloud drive? I moved away from iCloud since iOS 10 since I noticed I was missing contacts and contacts info got mixed with each other. I only depend on iCloud for Find My iPhone and Notes only.

Religiously, I will never use reset all settings since I've had bad experience before it can cause more problems and you'll have to manually readjust your settings. I also find I experience much less issues when updating using IPSW via iTunes than OTA except on Watch and 4k TV. I experienced more bugs on 4K TV than my Watch and iOS combined. Normally for any update, I force close all apps and (clear RAM on older devices) before updating using iTunes and after updating. I would let it sit for about a 1 min. Then, turn the device off for a few minutes before I power it back on and use it as normal. If I can, I would use IPSW on Watch and 4K TV too!
 
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The only difference is that DFU mode bypass the boot loader/OS which allows downgrading and recovery mode doesn't bypass it and you can't downgrade. Nowadays, I believe you can even downgrade even on recovery mode compared to older iOS. A fresh install is normally setting up the device as new and manually download all apps and sign into iCloud to resync. If you restore from iCloud, it will redownload all the latest apps and sync various documents etc. The main question is can iCloud backup be corrupted? No idea, it may be possible. I believe sometimes the main battery drain is because of syncing with iCloud. Do you store everything and backup everything to iCloud/iCloud drive? I moved away from iCloud since iOS 10 since I noticed I was missing contacts and contacts info got mixed with each other. I only depend on iCloud for Find My iPhone and Notes only.

Religiously, I will never use reset all settings since I've had bad experience before it can cause more problems and you'll have to manually readjust your settings. I also find I experience much less issues when updating using IPSW via iTunes than OTA except on Watch and 4k TV. I experienced more bugs on 4K TV than my Watch and iOS combined. Normally for any update, I force close all apps and (clear RAM on older devices) before updating using iTunes and after updating. I would let it sit for about a 1 min. Then, turn the device off for a few minutes before I power it back on and use it as normal. If I can, I would use IPSW on Watch and 4K TV too!

I don't normally have issues with most betas with a reset all settings. iOS 11 seems to just be a bug fest though.

I do use iCloud to backup pretty much everything. I have 2TB of storage so makes sense to utilise it. Never had any contacts go missing or info mixed up. Well actually I did but it was the facebook sync that caused the issue. Once I stopped it updating my contacts never had any other problems

Can I ask what you use to backup if you're not using iCloud? Straight to iTunes with a physical backup or another cloud service?
 
Does not look good for what I can read... A clean install is the best option to mitigate this kind of problems but in my case it takes at least 3 to 4 hours to set my phone with everything that I need, I used to do it before, not anymore, I don't have that time. I'm not upgrading until I can read stellar reviews. iOS 11.2.2 is woking magnificent on my iPhone X, why go through all that trouble.
 
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I don't normally have issues with most betas with a reset all settings. iOS 11 seems to just be a bug fest though.

I do use iCloud to backup pretty much everything. I have 2TB of storage so makes sense to utilise it. Never had any contacts go missing or info mixed up. Well actually I did but it was the facebook sync that caused the issue. Once I stopped it updating my contacts never had any other problems

Can I ask what you use to backup if you're not using iCloud? Straight to iTunes with a physical backup or another cloud service?

I’ve never used FB sync but I couldn’t figure out what was causing the iCloud contact issue and I abandoned it for alternatives. I have my own 8TB home cloud server for backup and use separate app for on the go backup like Dropbox for photos and MCBackupPro for contacts. I don’t really care about app backup since I believe that’s another issue these useless junk takes up space. Contacts and photos are most important to me. I manually do an iTunes backup before updating too in case if I need to unzip it for messages. I can restore messages using a separate software to extract it from iTunes backup.
 
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to be fair it toke me under an hour restore set up as new and install apps i got ocd so everythings neat, but yeah for me its not a biggy i just find after a restore it always runs smoother not sure why but does make a diffrence

You must not have a lot of data on your phone.

I have too much, therefore it’ll take too long. I also don’t have the time.
 
I’ve never used FB sync but I couldn’t figure out what was causing the iCloud contact issue and I abandoned it for alternatives. I have my own 8TB home cloud server for backup and use separate app for on the go backup like Dropbox for photos and MCBackupPro for contacts. I don’t really care about app backup since I believe that’s another issue these useless junk takes up space. Contacts and photos are most important to me. I manually do an iTunes backup before updating too in case if I need to unzip it for messages. I can restore messages using a separate software to extract it from iTunes backup.
You use Dropbox?!:eek: I wouldn´t trust them. I used it once.
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Where is the problem? Backup/ iCloud Backup
 
If you have to, ok but you could do a backup, set it up as new, test it, and then use your backup. If the backup is the problem... shi*.
exactly my point. He's just like set up as new like thats so easy to do. putting all your apps back on there and losing all your messages and settings. not happening
 
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to be fair it toke me under an hour restore set up as new and install apps i got ocd so everythings neat, but yeah for me its not a biggy i just find after a restore it always runs smoother not sure why but does make a diffrence
What is "ocd"???


... and then installing from the .ipsw from iTunes.
Do you mean a reinstall from iTunes or where do I get this ipsw-file?
 
Does not look good for what I can read... A clean install is the best option to mitigate this kind of problems but in my case it takes at least 3 to 4 hours to set my phone with everything that I need, I used to do it before, not anymore, I don't have that time. I'm not upgrading until I can read stellar reviews. iOS 11.2.2 is woking magnificent on my iPhone X, why go through all that trouble.
Because 11.2.5 is better than 11.2.2. It's wonderful on my X.

You might was well plan on staying where you're at indefinitely because you're never going to read "stellar reviews" in a place like this. Normal people come here to complain about stuff not working, not to gush about how well something is working for them.
 
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