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bashman2020

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if you’re on 10.3.3 currently i’d advice you don’t update your device as ios 11 is filled with bugs and lags .
REASONS
1. apps aren’t running as expected like they were before the update
2. app launch time is slower
3. battery life is bad
4. slowness across the whole os
5. you can’t downgrade back to ios 10.3.3 if you update your device to 11

So if you plan on holding onto an older iPhone for a while, you probably shouldn’t update. Just keep ignoring those prompts from Apple if you don’t want your phone’s performance to take a hit.

with ios 11 everything is slower not faster !
Bugs and lags are peculiar to iphone 5s, iphone 6, iphone 6s , iphone SE and iphone 7 users
 
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TiggrToo

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if you’re on 10.3.3 currently i’d advice you don’t update your device as ios 11 is filled with bugs and lags

Oddly the only issue my 7plus has had since upgrading to 11 is the annoyingly buggy appstore has a different set of annoying bugs.

Apart from that everything else feels just fine and my battery life hasn't noticably changed.

It does bug me when people post personal observations and demand they be taken as representative accross all users.
 

Kalloud

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I agree.
I have an iPhone 6s running iOS 10.3.3 and my sister updated her 6s to iOS 11.1.
I compared the two phones side by side and honestly I think iOS 11 is still really bad performance wise and it is full of bugs. Battery life is awful, too.
It's as if iOS 11 is still in beta.
I won't update my phone until iOS 11 becomes really ready, I don't want to beta test Apple's software on my daily driver.
Android in comparison is way, way smoother and more stable, even after a major update on a flagship phone. Android OEMs do take their time to release updates but do release a ready software in the end, so I'm a little jealous.
I really hope that Apple optimizes their software as they used to before 2013.
It is UNACCEPTABLE to have so much bugs, lag and stutter on our iPhones that do really have very good hardware.
I mean how can my iPhone 6s run Modern Combat 5 at 60fps but still stutter in basic tasks like scrolling in the notifications center ..?!
The only explanation I can think of is bad optimization.
If you tell me iOS 11.3 will be smooth and stable, then that's what iOS 11.0 should have been in the first place, why release software that's not ready yet?!
 

bashman2020

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I agree.
I have an iPhone 6s running iOS 10.3.3 and my sister updated her 6s to iOS 11.1.
I compared the two phones side by side and honestly I think iOS 11 is still really bad performance wise and it is full of bugs. Battery life is awful, too.
It's as if iOS 11 is still in beta.
I won't update my phone until iOS 11 becomes really ready, I don't want to beta test Apple's software on my daily driver.
Android in comparison is way, way smoother and more stable, even after a major update on a flagship phone.
I really hope that Apple optimizes their software as they used to before 2013.
It is UNACCEPTABLE to have so much bugs, lag and stutter on our iPhones that do really have very good hardware.
I mean how can my iPhone 6s run Modern Combat 5 at 60fps but still stutter in basic tasks like scrolling in the notifications center ..?!
The only explanation I can think of is bad optimization.
If you tell me iOS 11.3 will be smooth and stable, then that's what iOS 11.0 should have been in the first place, why release software that's not ready yet?!
exactly i reported just what you said to apple it’s like we both have same minds and they were like yes they totally understand and agree that ios 11 is infact filled with more bugs and lags than previous ios release and today apple is still signing ios 10.3.3 for the iphone 6s devices .. imagine !! to me ios 11 needs a lot of work to be done and infact during the apple support session i had with them they had to make me send them crash files of about 300mb plus to them
 
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bransoj

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well i guess you haven’t really been using & taking notes of your ios device that much to experience the lags across the whole os
I've got a 6S and i cant really notice any difference at all and i'm using it no different to how i have done since i got it. That said i just use it, i dont sit and take copious notes as to how its working all the time including date and time notations of battery percentage or whether an app took a split second longer to open last Wednesday at 3:14pm.

There are plenty of posts and threads from folk who are having no issues with iOS11 not just myself, are they all using it wrong or not paying attention as well?
 

Superhappytree

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I agree.
I have an iPhone 6s running iOS 10.3.3 and my sister updated her 6s to iOS 11.1.
I compared the two phones side by side and honestly I think iOS 11 is still really bad performance wise and it is full of bugs. Battery life is awful, too.
It's as if iOS 11 is still in beta.
I won't update my phone until iOS 11 becomes really ready, I don't want to beta test Apple's software on my daily driver.
Android in comparison is way, way smoother and more stable, even after a major update on a flagship phone. Android OEMs do take their time to release updates but do release a ready software in the end, so I'm a little jealous.
I really hope that Apple optimizes their software as they used to before 2013.
It is UNACCEPTABLE to have so much bugs, lag and stutter on our iPhones that do really have very good hardware.
I mean how can my iPhone 6s run Modern Combat 5 at 60fps but still stutter in basic tasks like scrolling in the notifications center ..?!
The only explanation I can think of is bad optimization.
If you tell me iOS 11.3 will be smooth and stable, then that's what iOS 11.0 should have been in the first place, why release software that's not ready yet?!

2013 is correct, that is when the cracks began to show. When they redesigned it and messed everything up with iOS 7 (in my opinion), they also messed with the architecture behind it that originally ran at true 60fps which was last present in iOS 6. I have an iPhone 5 running iOS 6.1.4 and it is consistently smooth in every corner of the OS. None of this “this update is so smooth!” that you see on here these days when in reality it actually lags in third party apps and even the App Store itself... heck, even control centre isn’t consistently smooth. People have forgotten what a true smooth iOS experience is like because we’ve been accustomed to the jitters and framedrops since 2013 as you said.

Also, agreed about Android being smoother nowadays. I have a Pixel 2 and it runs way smoother than iOS currently does.
 
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ilpap

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Partially I agree yeah,
Although 7plus is fine
The 6 is almost unusable
iPad Air 2 is slow for sure but not as bad as iPhone 6
 
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dj1891

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Some said iOS 11 has only been optimised for 7 and above. This is the planned obsolescence they talk about.
exactly i reported just what you said to apple it’s like we both have same minds and they were like yes they totally understand and agree that ios 11 is infact filled with more bugs and lags than previous ios release and today apple is still signing ios 10.3.3 for the iphone 6s devices .. imagine !! to me ios 11 needs a lot of work to be done and infact during the apple support session i had with them they had to make me send them crash files of about 300mb plus to them
 
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LunarFalcon

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I hadn't been having any problems with iOS 11 aside from some lower than usual battery life that's gotten better with each update, and a bit of stuttering that's now also better, until my update last week to 11.2, and now I'm having sporadic but severe keyboard lag. I try to type then 10 seconds pass before my text fills in.
 

Beeplance

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Updated my 6S+ and 5S both to 11.1, and not having issues as bad as you guys were describing.

5S performs ok. It's definitely usable although it stutters sometimes, but it's not that much different from when I updated it from iOS 9. Looking forward to 11.2 speeding up things across the system.

6S+ performs very well. No lag 99% of the time, animations are smooth, things work as intended, and apps open as quickly as iOS 10.3.3. I used to be skeptical about iOS 11, but now I'm a satisfied user.

Battery life on both devices are exactly the same as prior to updating. 5 hrs screen-on time for my 5S (100% battery capacity) and 8-9 hrs screen-on time for my 6S+ (82% battery capacity).

I updated both of my phones through a full 2+GB software download on iTunes. Never had any serious battery or software problems when I update through this method.
 

I7guy

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if you’re on 10.3.3 currently i’d advice you don’t update your device as ios 11 is filled with bugs and lags .
REASONS
1. apps aren’t running as expected like they were before the update
2. app launch time is slower
3. battery life is bad
4. slowness across the whole os
5. you can’t downgrade back to ios 10.3.3 if you update your device to 11

with ios 11 everything is slower not faster !
Bugs and lags are peculiar to iphone 5s, iphone 6, iphone 6s , iphone SE and iphone 7 users
1. Have yet to find an issue running apps except calculator.
2. App launch times are not always slower but I’d say for most people there is no physical real difference.
3. Battery life is fine on 11.2.
4. The entire o/s is not slow by any stretch of the imagination.
5. You can’t downgrade any iOS release after the window closes.

My 6s and 6s are running fine. They ran fine under 10.3.3 also.
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iOS 11 is Apple's Windows Vista. The speed tests prove it.
iOS 8 was windows me if iOS 11 is windows vista, the reboots and springboard crashes prove it.
 

videotape74

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well i guess you haven’t really been using & taking notes of your ios device that much to experience the lags across the whole os

To tell someone that haven’t been taking notes or using they’re phone properly to be a “judge” of iOS is kind of unfair and jerky.

I’m using it iOS 11 on both an iPhone 6 and an iPhone 8 Plus and have not had one big issue. Then again, I do little things like clear my RAM etc to keep things smooth.

Maybe you should just monitor your own usage and decide if you want to use iOS 11 yourself. But keep the “don’t install iOS 11” to yourself and let people decide themselves.
 

bill-p

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Eh... no. I agree with OP that "don't install iOS 11" should be a thing and it's not jerky because:

1. This is a real and universal issue, if you haven't seen it, then you obviously have not used your phone much at all: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/6/16611756/ios-11-bug-letter-i-a-unicode-symbol

2. The calculator app is another real and universal issue.

3. iOS should work without you having to clear RAM or do little things to it. This is stated as much in Apple's design guidelines for their developers.

4. Interface elements are disjointed and little bugs here and there still creep in. Though nothing major and functionally compromising like #1 and #2 above. I have personally experienced my device freezing up (with screen on, button presses don't work) multiple times the last week alone.

5. Just because you have not run into issues doesn't mean there is no potential for anyone else to experience them. Also, THERE IS NO WAY TO GO BACK AFTER YOU UPDATE. So yeah, I would actually strongly advise anyone who is not having any issue to stay on 10.3.3 simply because there seems to be a 50/50 chance you'll run into issues.

If it's not broke, why fix it?
 

videotape74

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Sep 20, 2016
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How about you don’t tell ppl how to use their phones and let them decide? Oh, the letter “I” issue is so tragic...turn off predictive and type a whole message yourself. My calculator does not have any issues, other than the initial 1+2+3 bug that has been fixed.

If all you people have such issues, switch to Android, see what a nightmare that can be, then come back and praise iOS. :)
 
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