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Paddle1

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To be fair, part of the reason people say the previous version is better every year is because the OS matures over the year and many of the initial issues are fixed. Plus it's not always the same people complaining each year.

if you’re on 10.3.3 currently i’d advice you don’t update your device as ios 11 is filled with bugs and lags .
REASONS
1. apps aren’t running as expected like they were before the update
2. app launch time is slower
3. battery life is bad
4. slowness across the whole os
5. you can’t downgrade back to ios 10.3.3 if you update your device to 11

with ios 11 everything is slower not faster !
Bugs and lags are peculiar to iphone 5s, iphone 6, iphone 6s , iphone SE and iphone 7 users
What device have you run iOS 11 on?
 

Sorig

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I fixed my battery issues on 11.1 by restoring and setting up as new. But still iOS 11 is not as responsive and stable as 10.

I wish I had stayed on iOS 10
 
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old-wiz

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I haven't upgraded yet due to the changes in iTunes where they killed the ability to sync multiple devices with new versions of apps. I have an iPhone, and 2 iPads and hate the idea of having to update them all separately. I also hate the 2016/2017 keyboards - drives me to be ready to abandon my relatively new MBPr.
 

BugeyeSTI

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I've got a 6S and i cant really notice any difference at all and i'm using it no different to how i have done since i got it. That said i just use it, i dont sit and take copious notes as to how its working all the time including date and time notations of battery percentage or whether an app took a split second longer to open last Wednesday at 3:14pm.

There are plenty of posts and threads from folk who are having no issues with iOS11 not just myself, are they all using it wrong or not paying attention as well?
Add me to this list. My 6S and my Air2 are working as well if not better than 10.3.3... The new features in ios11 make it worth the update to me especially on the iPad. As Apple releases new updates, I expect it to continue to improve.
 

macfacts

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I’m old enough to remember when some folks were calling iOS 10 crap and now it’s the gold standard.

Next year iOS 11 will be the bees knees and 12 will be the planned obsolescence monster. ;)

Obvious conclusion is that Apple doesn't know what beta and GM means, they just push it out cause the marketing and accounting team said so. Much better to wait for iOS 11.3
 
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nilk

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I’m old enough to remember when some folks were calling iOS 10 crap and now it’s the gold standard.

Next year iOS 11 will be the bees knees and 12 will be the planned obsolescence monster. ;)

iOS 10 is the gold standard? News to me. I see lots of iOS 9 hold-outs who are still trying to avoid it. If there was a gold standard, it was iOS 6 :)

That said, iOS 11.1 is good enough for me, and at a point where I'd say go ahead and upgrade as long as you are on a 6S/SE or newer. In 11.1 they brought back 3D touch multi-tasker, and it seems like they tweaked the lockscreen camera swipe shortcut so that it works more reliably. So I'm happy enough and wouldn't want to go back to iOS 10 at this point.
 

C DM

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Obvious conclusion is that Apple doesn't know what beta and GM means, they just push it out cause the marketing and accounting team said so. Much better to wait for iOS 11.3
That type of rationale essentially applies to most OS/software out there.
 
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CTHarrryH

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My 6s runs faster and smoother on IOS 11 than it ever has. Battery life if just as good at least. So when you write things such as the OP did (and it like another 5000 threads) you should say it does all that for you. It doesn't for everyone and I'd guess more people are happy than not. Your bad performance could be because of 1 app you are running and not the entire IOS. Sure there are some bugs but find me an IOS that doesn't have any. The same threads occurred for IOS 10 and 9 etc. when they came out.
As far as I'm concerned IOS 11 is the best IOS that I have seen.
 

gobikerider

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Love how someone who just joined the forums is an "expert" at iOS and can boldly declare an entire operating system "crap" based on his personal experience and lack of sample data.
I’d hardly say iOS 11 is crap but yes it did have a slightly rough release, iOS 11.1 made huge progress in the “perfect” direction of iOS 10:D
 

fatalogic

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Personally I think they should slow down their release schedule. Ios 11 has been my worst upgrade experience on any device in a long long time. 11.1 is finally in a state that I feel is up to Apple's standards. It still has problems but at least they don't affect my daily usage too much. Battery life is still not what it used to be though. I used to get 1.5 days but now I have to recharge every night instead of every other day.
 

gobikerider

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Personally I think they should slow down their release schedule. Ios 11 has been my worst upgrade experience on any device in a long long time. 11.1 is finally in a state that I feel is up to Apple's standards. It still has problems but at least they don't affect my daily usage too much. Battery life is still not what it used to be though. I used to get 1.5 days but now I have to recharge every night instead of every other day.
They really should slow down the release schedule or take the next iOS release to optimize the platform like iOS 9. I feel like with iOS being numbered they are pressured to add new features and “excitement”. Meanwhile the Pro users of iOS (yes they exist) are inconvenienced dealing with entirely broken software sometimes.
 

dcp10

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Love how someone who just joined the forums is an "expert" at iOS and can boldly declare an entire operating system "crap" based on his personal experience and lack of sample data.

Exactly. There is a difference between science and opinion and since NO ONE who complains has ever provided any sort of metrological data that means it must be opinion which unfortunately is presented as fact way too often on this board
 

C DM

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I think something is desperately wrong with iOS 11 when it has ruined the ram management in flagship phones and is being flattened by Android.
What are we talking about here when we are talking about being "flattened by Android"?
 

kingvwardhana

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I'm using iPhone 7 plus with ios 11.1, which has been utterly disappointing. Yes, i do realize that the new features are good but seriously it's not stable enough, bugs and lags are everywhere. Battery performance is worse than ios 10.3.3 and somehow my iPhone is getting hot easily while using (twitter, browsing in Chrome, instagram).
3D touch lag and delay response and sometimes i saw my iPhone freeze while peeking an image using 3D touch in Twitter app.
Expecting a better version in the next software release.
 

gobikerider

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What are we talking about here when we are talking about being "flattened by Android"?
He’s talking about the crazy guy up the street, people need to stop basing the overall performance based off the dumb “speed Test” comparison videos. Opening apps isn’t indicative of anything not to mention that iPhone X new phone isn’t totally optimized, we saw the same stuff with the iPhone 7 last year it’s nothing new. After 11.1, 11.2 and apps getting updated will see whose really getting “flattened” lmao .
 
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bashman2020

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To tell someone that haven’t been taking notes or using they’re phone properly to be a “judge” of iOS is kind of unfair and jerky.

I’m using it iOS 11 on both an iPhone 6 and an iPhone 8 Plus and have not had one big issue. Then again, I do little things like clear my RAM etc to keep things smooth.

Maybe you should just monitor your own usage and decide if you want to use iOS 11 yourself. But keep the “don’t install iOS 11” to yourself and let people decide themselves.
cmon ios 10 wasn’t this bad when it came out you’d hardly note slowdowns and lags when the first release of ios 10 came out except a few bugs there but with ios 11 it’s been way too much bugs and lags everywhere get the point right
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Yeah, right...

you all see this right , this is what we are talking about when the next ios 12 now comes out that one would be a killer os since just 11 is like this what would ios 12 look like please horrible
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Love how someone who just joined the forums is an "expert" at iOS and can boldly declare an entire operating system "crap" based on his personal experience and lack of sample data.
what has just joining the forum got to do with anything here please it’s about how long i’ve been with ios and my experience overall so make sure to get your facts right before you make a statement
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I'm using iPhone 7 plus with ios 11.1, which has been utterly disappointing. Yes, i do realize that the new features are good but seriously it's not stable enough, bugs and lags are everywhere. Battery performance is worse than ios 10.3.3 and somehow my iPhone is getting hot easily while using (twitter, browsing in Chrome, instagram).
3D touch lag and delay response and sometimes i saw my iPhone freeze while peeking an image using 3D touch in Twitter app.
Expecting a better version in the next software release.
and someone is out here telling me that ios 11 is already smooth for him ios 10 bugs weren’t as much as this crappy ios 11 when it came out we already saw advancements in performance when ios 10 came out but not with ios 11 everything is slower and laggy and buggy
[doublepost=1510061312][/doublepost]thank you for this
Eh... no. I agree with OP that "don't install iOS 11" should be a thing and it's not jerky because:

1. This is a real and universal issue, if you haven't seen it, then you obviously have not used your phone much at all: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/6/16611756/ios-11-bug-letter-i-a-unicode-symbol

2. The calculator app is another real and universal issue.

3. iOS should work without you having to clear RAM or do little things to it. This is stated as much in Apple's design guidelines for their developers.

4. Interface elements are disjointed and little bugs here and there still creep in. Though nothing major and functionally compromising like #1 and #2 above. I have personally experienced my device freezing up (with screen on, button presses don't work) multiple times the last week alone.

5. Just because you have not run into issues doesn't mean there is no potential for anyone else to experience them. Also, THERE IS NO WAY TO GO BACK AFTER YOU UPDATE. So yeah, I would actually strongly advise anyone who is not having any issue to stay on 10.3.3 simply because there seems to be a 50/50 chance you'll run into issues.

If it's not broke, why fix it?
 
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