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ios 11...your personal reflection..Do you enjoy ios 11?
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So far it’s okay. The brightness on both my iPad and iPhone seem to just do their own thing. They change by themselves despite having auto brightness and true tone switched off.
It’s annoying as hell when you’re watching something on the iPad and the brightness just changes.
It’s annoying as hell when you’re watching something on the iPad and the brightness just changes.
Quite buggy and less responsive. My iPad is no longer feeling as consistent throughout the UI as it used to be.
There are many critical posts in here so are you being sincere or sarcastic?
He's referring to the MacRumors Apple Keynote/Special Event drinking game - every time someone on stage uses the superlative "magical", we slam a drink.
My head still hurts from September 12th.
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I’m curious if you have a newer or older iPad? I’ve got an ipad2air, and it is very responsive. Now this morning I’m noticing some issues imbedding links and videos here (MacRumors) in my posts but have no idea what the source of this issue is. Could it be ios11?
I am on an iPad Air 2 as well. After the update it was fine, it was responsive and consistent but the more I have used it the more weird little issues have creeped in even on iOS 11.0.1.
Today I was unlocking it with TouchID and it sort of froze for a moment and then unlocked, swiping to the Today screen is sometimes met with a weird stutter and when switching between apps I notice that they take a little second to respond sometimes.
It's very odd. It seems to be running a little better now that I cleared the task switcher of the app's I was using.
Bu-bu-bu-buggy and battery is draining fast.. especially the screen rotation bug is terrible. Airpods volume controller is messed up.. ypu never know the state of te volume and when ask siri to increase the volume it jumps from 25% to 75% or so...
I think the battery on my iPad may be draining faster than it used to, but not sure.
lags, glitches and poor battery aside (now sadly foregone conclusions in iOS), I'm still not digging the "intended" feature changes.
control centre:
i really *really* hate the big swipe up now required to access control centre on the iPad. maybe if auto brightness worked I wouldn't need to access it as often, but it constantly makes the screen drop to minimum brightness in well lit environments.
anyway, I didn't think they could come up with worse UX than last years multi-pane layout, but apparently someone in that department said "hold my beer"...
multitasking:
i'd really challenge someone, anyone to explain how the new dock based multitasking is better than the "full list" that was used prior.
if the old way got messy with too many apps to scroll through, the new way leaves you with too restrictive a set of options. and if you recently used an app thats already in the dock, it now shows that icon twice, taking up 2 slots to show you the exact same thing.
so whenever you need an app that isn't there, you have to go to the home screens... which, guess what, is the full app list again! worse, its an unfiltered list of apps that do and don't support multitasking, so its guaranteed to be an equal or longer list than the old approach, and the cognitive load of remembering which apps can be dragging into multitasking falls entirely upon the user.
and that new drag and drop approach looks "cool" in the way minority report hand waving looks cool, but in practice the requisite finger ninjitsu of dragging with one finger and navigating back to your primary app with another is an objectively more complex task than scrolling and selecting from a "boring" list. so it invites the question, is "progress" in computing these days actually about making things easier and more powerful, or simply complexity for its own sake?
I might also add that because iOS is a glitchy mess, I sometimes have apps fail to engage multi-tasking when dragged as though they don't support it, when in fact the OS has merely glitched out and needs to be restarted. so your responsibility as a user is not only to opaquely try apps to see which apps work in multitasking, but also figure out if a fail state is because its not supported or if further troubleshooting is required.
I will say this, I'm not simply advocating for standing still and keeping things exactly the way they were. I just feel like changes are not made as thoughtfully as they used to, and if I were to guess, they are more driven by what makes a splashy stage demo than what will long term improve a person's productivity. which is probably why things like control centre and multitasking seemingly get redesigned year to year. nothing is worth holding onto because nothing is really all that thought out. just a fresh look to help sell people on "whats new!"
UX itself sometimes isn't inherently sexy. its stuff like putting a commonly used button in a screen corner on mouse-based system because thats the easiest hit target. you can still make it beautiful, but you have to start with the function.
control centre:
i really *really* hate the big swipe up now required to access control centre on the iPad. maybe if auto brightness worked I wouldn't need to access it as often, but it constantly makes the screen drop to minimum brightness in well lit environments.
anyway, I didn't think they could come up with worse UX than last years multi-pane layout, but apparently someone in that department said "hold my beer"...
multitasking:
i'd really challenge someone, anyone to explain how the new dock based multitasking is better than the "full list" that was used prior.
if the old way got messy with too many apps to scroll through, the new way leaves you with too restrictive a set of options. and if you recently used an app thats already in the dock, it now shows that icon twice, taking up 2 slots to show you the exact same thing.
so whenever you need an app that isn't there, you have to go to the home screens... which, guess what, is the full app list again! worse, its an unfiltered list of apps that do and don't support multitasking, so its guaranteed to be an equal or longer list than the old approach, and the cognitive load of remembering which apps can be dragging into multitasking falls entirely upon the user.
and that new drag and drop approach looks "cool" in the way minority report hand waving looks cool, but in practice the requisite finger ninjitsu of dragging with one finger and navigating back to your primary app with another is an objectively more complex task than scrolling and selecting from a "boring" list. so it invites the question, is "progress" in computing these days actually about making things easier and more powerful, or simply complexity for its own sake?
I might also add that because iOS is a glitchy mess, I sometimes have apps fail to engage multi-tasking when dragged as though they don't support it, when in fact the OS has merely glitched out and needs to be restarted. so your responsibility as a user is not only to opaquely try apps to see which apps work in multitasking, but also figure out if a fail state is because its not supported or if further troubleshooting is required.
I will say this, I'm not simply advocating for standing still and keeping things exactly the way they were. I just feel like changes are not made as thoughtfully as they used to, and if I were to guess, they are more driven by what makes a splashy stage demo than what will long term improve a person's productivity. which is probably why things like control centre and multitasking seemingly get redesigned year to year. nothing is worth holding onto because nothing is really all that thought out. just a fresh look to help sell people on "whats new!"
UX itself sometimes isn't inherently sexy. its stuff like putting a commonly used button in a screen corner on mouse-based system because thats the easiest hit target. you can still make it beautiful, but you have to start with the function.
On my SE - battery was terrible at first. I have a work phone, so my SE is hardly used during the day. After 8 hours of not using the device, I was losing 60% battery on a daily basis. iOS 11.01 has fixed this issue. Battery is back to normal now.
I haven't seen any issues on my iPhone 7 yet.
I haven't seen any issues on my iPhone 7 yet.
My experience so far, on my iPhone 6s:
Passcode screen: I don't use TouchID, so I get to see the passcode screen when I wake the phone. When that screen went flat in iOS 7, and the digits got thin round circles around them in later updates, I thought it looked very elegant. The new digits lack the thin circles, and it looks equally as good. These weren't just changes for the sake of change. When Apple gets design language right, they really get it right.
new fonts: I really like them. I recall the crying when iOS 7 switched to lighter-weight fonts, and I hope its not those same people crying now that they got heavier fonts. I liked the look of 7 vs 6, and I like the look of 11 vs 10. I find the screen is a lot easier to read, especially in bright sunlight.
Control Center: this is about the best its ever been. I really appreciate the ability to modify the Center- at least, as much as Apple allows. I removed the Camera and Flashlight - two things I never use - and I added Notes and Alarm- two things I use slightly more than never, but I'd still like to be able to get rid of the Do Not Disturb button. I have never used that feature, instead I just turn the phone to silent. Of course, based on the stuff I've read here that might no longer work. We shall see.
Clock: I opened it just now to see what has changed. I was greeted with a splash screen for "Introducing Bedtime". Reading the explanation just made me cringe. This is one of those instances - like "Breathe" - when I see the nanny attribute in modern society spreading into Apple. I'm not in a boarding school, I'm not in basic training, I don't need someone telling me its time for bed.
Next up: "Introducing Laundry Time: doing laundry regularly can increase your health and well-being. Answer a few simple questions to set up a reminder when its time to start your washer, and a recurring alarm to let you know its time to fold your laundry and put it away."
There are people who need this, and that makes me sad for civilization. Oh well.
Weather: a few subtle changes but the big one is the info is presented in a much nicer way. Two columns of relevant data in an easy to read format, instead of the old line by line scrolling. Nicely done.
Maps: Hoo boy, am I not happy with this one. After my upgrade, I noticed that traffic details were no longer appearing on maps. I had previously enjoyed an excellent level of detail on road conditions, so much so that I deleted Total Traffic as well as my local news channel's traffic link. It was worth putting up with the constant "Location Services are not turned on" alert every time I brought Maps up, just to have a good map. Now that alert is gone - thankfully - but now my road conditions are gone. I checked and the Traffic slider is green in Maps Settings. I have to turn off the slider and turn it back on to get the conditions back on the screen. Thankfully the data is still available, and all I have to do is toggle that slider, but I shouldn't have to. Hitting the home button and then going back in to Maps doesn't mess with the road conditions, and neither does quitting the app and then relaunching it. But at some point - a few hours or a few days later - traffic turns off once more and I have to toggle the slider. Whats that iOS bug report link again?
Calculator: the new look of the Calculator itself is fine. The new buttons are round, and evoke the Passcode screen digits. Whats up with that app icon though? A stylized calculator floating on a grey square? It looks out of place against all the rest of the icons.
Files: the one thing I was really looking forward to was the new Files app. Based on Apple's own released information and Keynote explanation, a lot of us thought we were going to have a true file manager. Instead we're greeted by some weaksauce file browser that attaches to cloud storage and does what you could always do with the web or app-based file management all of those services offer anyway.
Why couldn't they have gotten this app right? Even if it only handled email attachments and stuff created by installed apps, it would have been awesome. Imagine getting an email from a friend with a PDF or JPG attached. You could have 3Dt'd it to save the file to Files, and then deleted the email. Now I have to either keep the email so I can review the file on the phone, or go home and text/Airdrop the file from my home computer back to the phone so I can delete the email.
So what is this thing? Files is basically the TV app for cloud services. What a waste of space, just like the TV app.
Compass: It stopped working? Its frozen on 359 degrees, no matter which way I point the phone. Thats going to suck when I go for a hike off the trail, which pretty much describes my entire property.
What remains: There is still no way to delete apps that I don't want. I can now delete Reminders (never could get it to work) and News (I'm not a fan of any company learning in such detail what I like to read, or even worse, giving them an opportunity to try to mold my opinions), but I still can't get rid of Health, Activity, and Find My iPhone? I guess a case could be made for FMi being part of the OS codebase, but the other two? Plus, the Health app data keeps growing, even though I have never turned it on. That means its gathering data on me, and that data can't be deleted. Its actually the one data filed in storage management that I can't swipe and delete.
I'd really like to make all that stuff go away on my Watch as well, but thats another topic.
Performance: it seemed like battery life got worse after the update, and then improved a bit. Still, I get in my car at the end of a workday and see I have 30 percent battery left, as opposed to the 55-60 percent I used to see. My daily phone usage hasn't changed, so I'm not sure where the "leak" is at.
Overall: There's enough that Apple got right in iOS 11 for me to enjoy it, and enough new quirks to get me wishing they'd leave stuff alone sometimes. I guess there are more people with usage cases that require these tweaks. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with more and more people finding ways to put their entire life on their phones, alone with Apple finding more and more ways to get people to do that. I think thats great that people have found so much usefulness for these devices, but I could never be the guy who lives life off of Evernote, OneDrive, Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, or whatever. As a matter of fact, I've never used any of those apps and I can't even think of a reason to use them. I'm getting left behind by what these phones can do. So be it.
I like the update, but then again I have liked most of the updates including the ones that have been greeted with rage, like the iOS7 flattening. The one thing that made me mad enough to resist switching for the longest time was iOS 10 and the elimination of swipe to unlock.
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You're telling an automated assistant to raise the volume of a device that you have at hand? That seems to me like telling my car to make a left turn when I've got my hands on the wheel.
Passcode screen: I don't use TouchID, so I get to see the passcode screen when I wake the phone. When that screen went flat in iOS 7, and the digits got thin round circles around them in later updates, I thought it looked very elegant. The new digits lack the thin circles, and it looks equally as good. These weren't just changes for the sake of change. When Apple gets design language right, they really get it right.
new fonts: I really like them. I recall the crying when iOS 7 switched to lighter-weight fonts, and I hope its not those same people crying now that they got heavier fonts. I liked the look of 7 vs 6, and I like the look of 11 vs 10. I find the screen is a lot easier to read, especially in bright sunlight.
Control Center: this is about the best its ever been. I really appreciate the ability to modify the Center- at least, as much as Apple allows. I removed the Camera and Flashlight - two things I never use - and I added Notes and Alarm- two things I use slightly more than never, but I'd still like to be able to get rid of the Do Not Disturb button. I have never used that feature, instead I just turn the phone to silent. Of course, based on the stuff I've read here that might no longer work. We shall see.
Clock: I opened it just now to see what has changed. I was greeted with a splash screen for "Introducing Bedtime". Reading the explanation just made me cringe. This is one of those instances - like "Breathe" - when I see the nanny attribute in modern society spreading into Apple. I'm not in a boarding school, I'm not in basic training, I don't need someone telling me its time for bed.
Next up: "Introducing Laundry Time: doing laundry regularly can increase your health and well-being. Answer a few simple questions to set up a reminder when its time to start your washer, and a recurring alarm to let you know its time to fold your laundry and put it away."
There are people who need this, and that makes me sad for civilization. Oh well.
Weather: a few subtle changes but the big one is the info is presented in a much nicer way. Two columns of relevant data in an easy to read format, instead of the old line by line scrolling. Nicely done.
Maps: Hoo boy, am I not happy with this one. After my upgrade, I noticed that traffic details were no longer appearing on maps. I had previously enjoyed an excellent level of detail on road conditions, so much so that I deleted Total Traffic as well as my local news channel's traffic link. It was worth putting up with the constant "Location Services are not turned on" alert every time I brought Maps up, just to have a good map. Now that alert is gone - thankfully - but now my road conditions are gone. I checked and the Traffic slider is green in Maps Settings. I have to turn off the slider and turn it back on to get the conditions back on the screen. Thankfully the data is still available, and all I have to do is toggle that slider, but I shouldn't have to. Hitting the home button and then going back in to Maps doesn't mess with the road conditions, and neither does quitting the app and then relaunching it. But at some point - a few hours or a few days later - traffic turns off once more and I have to toggle the slider. Whats that iOS bug report link again?
Calculator: the new look of the Calculator itself is fine. The new buttons are round, and evoke the Passcode screen digits. Whats up with that app icon though? A stylized calculator floating on a grey square? It looks out of place against all the rest of the icons.
Files: the one thing I was really looking forward to was the new Files app. Based on Apple's own released information and Keynote explanation, a lot of us thought we were going to have a true file manager. Instead we're greeted by some weaksauce file browser that attaches to cloud storage and does what you could always do with the web or app-based file management all of those services offer anyway.
Why couldn't they have gotten this app right? Even if it only handled email attachments and stuff created by installed apps, it would have been awesome. Imagine getting an email from a friend with a PDF or JPG attached. You could have 3Dt'd it to save the file to Files, and then deleted the email. Now I have to either keep the email so I can review the file on the phone, or go home and text/Airdrop the file from my home computer back to the phone so I can delete the email.
So what is this thing? Files is basically the TV app for cloud services. What a waste of space, just like the TV app.
Compass: It stopped working? Its frozen on 359 degrees, no matter which way I point the phone. Thats going to suck when I go for a hike off the trail, which pretty much describes my entire property.
What remains: There is still no way to delete apps that I don't want. I can now delete Reminders (never could get it to work) and News (I'm not a fan of any company learning in such detail what I like to read, or even worse, giving them an opportunity to try to mold my opinions), but I still can't get rid of Health, Activity, and Find My iPhone? I guess a case could be made for FMi being part of the OS codebase, but the other two? Plus, the Health app data keeps growing, even though I have never turned it on. That means its gathering data on me, and that data can't be deleted. Its actually the one data filed in storage management that I can't swipe and delete.
I'd really like to make all that stuff go away on my Watch as well, but thats another topic.
Performance: it seemed like battery life got worse after the update, and then improved a bit. Still, I get in my car at the end of a workday and see I have 30 percent battery left, as opposed to the 55-60 percent I used to see. My daily phone usage hasn't changed, so I'm not sure where the "leak" is at.
Overall: There's enough that Apple got right in iOS 11 for me to enjoy it, and enough new quirks to get me wishing they'd leave stuff alone sometimes. I guess there are more people with usage cases that require these tweaks. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with more and more people finding ways to put their entire life on their phones, alone with Apple finding more and more ways to get people to do that. I think thats great that people have found so much usefulness for these devices, but I could never be the guy who lives life off of Evernote, OneDrive, Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, or whatever. As a matter of fact, I've never used any of those apps and I can't even think of a reason to use them. I'm getting left behind by what these phones can do. So be it.
I like the update, but then again I have liked most of the updates including the ones that have been greeted with rage, like the iOS7 flattening. The one thing that made me mad enough to resist switching for the longest time was iOS 10 and the elimination of swipe to unlock.
[doublepost=1506876508][/doublepost]
You're telling an automated assistant to raise the volume of a device that you have at hand? That seems to me like telling my car to make a left turn when I've got my hands on the wheel.
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This popped up on my iPad today. I’ve not had a chance to go through it, but will.
iOS 11 killed my battery life. Here's how I finally revived it and you can, too - USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ow-finally-revived-and-you-can-too/721040001/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ow-finally-revived-and-you-can-too/721040001/
iOS 11 killed my battery life. Here's how I finally revived it and you can, too - USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ow-finally-revived-and-you-can-too/721040001/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ow-finally-revived-and-you-can-too/721040001/
I’m definitely enjoying iOS 11. The UI and functionality is quite a bit more refined and logical than 10.
Yes, it has some bugs and performance hiccups. Not as bad as some past big iOS releases, and not bad enough to create major issues for me. I’m confident a couple of iOS updates will take care of those.
Yes, it has some bugs and performance hiccups. Not as bad as some past big iOS releases, and not bad enough to create major issues for me. I’m confident a couple of iOS updates will take care of those.
It's a hot, festering bag of garbage. I'm on a 6+ and the lag is awful, the changes are awful.
Sarcastic.... im finding ios11 pretty good, so far. Dont appear to have any battery issues on iphone 6S, mini 4, Pro 9.7 or touch 6...There are many critical posts in here so are you being sincere or sarcastic?
I've been using iOS 11 on my iPhone 7 since release day and it's been great (love the new look and features) but tonight I downgraded to 10.3.3 for three reasons:
1. Battery life was consistently 20-30% shorter on iOS 11 vs 10.
2. General lag throughout - e.g. press flashlight, a good second before it turns on. It's instant with iOS 10.
3. iOS 11 broke the iCloud Safari open tabs sync with El Capitan - It works great in iOS 10.
This is the first time I've ever downgraded to an older iOS version. I'll have to wait a few months before trying 11 again. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come from Apple wrt software updates.
1. Battery life was consistently 20-30% shorter on iOS 11 vs 10.
2. General lag throughout - e.g. press flashlight, a good second before it turns on. It's instant with iOS 10.
3. iOS 11 broke the iCloud Safari open tabs sync with El Capitan - It works great in iOS 10.
This is the first time I've ever downgraded to an older iOS version. I'll have to wait a few months before trying 11 again. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come from Apple wrt software updates.
Thanks
Have done all that including setting it up as new and manually installing the apps I use (no 32-bit apps).
Have checked Location Services, Battery, etc ...
Will check the Usage vs. Standby
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After checking ny Usage with the locked and tasks cleared is increasing at 50% of my Standby ....
Now the hunt begins ...
Hmmm... could it be the watch connection?
I did enjoy iOS 11 until I saw that the calendars doesn’t sync to my iPhone at all. Empty. Nothing.
Ah well. Syncing started to look a bit strange of and on a bit before I realized that. I thought I had moved events...haha.
Makes sense now.
Some events were disappearing on all calendars.
Turned off and on again on iPhone, totally empty now.
Restored from iCloud.com too.
Generally works fine on iPad now though. All calendars are syncing and showing up.
Not all ok on iMac either, but more calendars shows up.
**** iOS 11 I'm saying now.....never had any of these problems with iCloud before.
Tried everything I can think of, still nada calendars on iPhone.
Anyone else had these things going on?
Ah well. Syncing started to look a bit strange of and on a bit before I realized that. I thought I had moved events...haha.
Makes sense now.
Some events were disappearing on all calendars.
Turned off and on again on iPhone, totally empty now.
Restored from iCloud.com too.
Generally works fine on iPad now though. All calendars are syncing and showing up.
Not all ok on iMac either, but more calendars shows up.
**** iOS 11 I'm saying now.....never had any of these problems with iCloud before.
Tried everything I can think of, still nada calendars on iPhone.
Anyone else had these things going on?