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scjr

macrumors 68020
Jan 28, 2013
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Maybe we’ll see another beta this week and then the release? Is that a possibility?
 

gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
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But is it really? They are taking time to do it proper and probably to ensure there are no other similar bugs. I rather them take their time and do it all once instead of needing another patch later down the road if a similar thing happens again.
I think its possible for them to take their time, etc... and still have this as embarrassing. The embarrassment is not for the time its taking to fix. Its that they had such a difficult to fix bug present in the first place.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
14,172
10,187
I think its possible for them to take their time, etc... and still have this as embarrassing. The embarrassment is not for the time its taking to fix. Its that they had such a difficult to fix bug present in the first place.
But my response was to "this is starting to looking embarrassing." Which heavily implies that the time taking to release 12.1.4 is the cause of the embarrassment.
 

Sharkoneau

macrumors 6502a
Jan 13, 2017
713
586
Michigan
But my response was to "this is starting to looking embarrassing." Which heavily implies that the time taking to release 12.1.4 is the cause of the embarrassment.
To an informed crowd like us who appreciates the intricacies of software development, it’s fine. However, the general public is less knowledgeable and is more prone to throw up its arms. Especially after missed deadlines.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
14,172
10,187
To an informed crowd like us who appreciates the intricacies of software development, it’s fine. However, the general public is less knowledgeable and is more prone to throw up its arms. Especially after missed deadlines.
But it seems like the general public doesn’t even care anymore. I’m usually the go-to person when it comes to technology issues when it comes to friends and family. Not one of them is concerned about this now that it’s disabled. Sure that’s anecdotal. But that fact that news outlets aren’t reporting it anymore just shows that the “outrage” is subsiding.
 

chillip

macrumors 68040
Mar 16, 2013
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My bad, I forgot Apple stoped it server side. I generally thought the latest beta didn’t have the fix. Sorry folks.
 

chillip

macrumors 68040
Mar 16, 2013
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2,855
However I do think if the latest beta contain the fix then Apple would of released 12.1.4 by now?
 

Mr$tone

macrumors 6502
Oct 25, 2017
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The bug is killed on server side. Let Apple take the time they need to get things going the safe way.
It’s the never ending nagging of how slow Apple is releasing updates that is one of the problems with bugs in the first place.
Stop nagging or accept bugs! I prefer the former—you should as well!
 
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fishcharlie

macrumors newbie
Sep 13, 2017
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Denver, CO
However I do think if the latest beta contain the fix then Apple would of released 12.1.4 by now?

Between developer beta, public beta, and iOS 12.1.4, iOS 12.1.4 is the most important for them to get right. If there is another minor bug or problem in beta, they will seed another beta in a week or two. Public release is a lot more important to get right than beta.

Also, we have no idea how much work goes into ensuring that the server side stuff is ready. They could release the beta's without server side being ready. Once iOS 12.1.4 is released I think there is a higher expectation that server side will be enabled at the same time. Which is what they could be waiting for.
 

gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
13,319
21,519
The bug is killed on server side. Let Apple take the time they need to get things going the safe way.
It’s the never ending nagging of how slow Apple is releasing updates that is one of the problems with bugs in the first place.
Stop nagging or accept bugs! I prefer the former—you should as well!
I don't think you understood the point of my post. But oh well.
 

Mr$tone

macrumors 6502
Oct 25, 2017
460
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It’s all this pushing pushing and nagging nagging to release NOW release NOW that causes many problems. It stresses even Apple. Why are you in such a hurry all the time? We need solid releases, not a zillion features which are not thorougly tested (Android is a great example—don’t push Apple into that corner).
 
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