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GreyOS

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The only time this has happened was iOS 11. The build you have for iOS 10 is incorrect. iOS 10 public release was 14A403. So, no, it’s not what usually happens. But, it could happen.
Not correcting you here btw, it’s interesting to note that the first public release of iOS 10 was 10.0.1. I don’t know if perhaps the build that got put on the new iPhones that year was in fact the last beta (with the beta stuff stripped out) and if anyone was able to confirm that before it presumably forced an update to 10.0.1.
 

Mlrollin91

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Not correcting you here btw, it’s interesting to note that the first public release of iOS 10 was 10.0.1. I don’t know if perhaps the build that got put on the new iPhones that year was in fact the last beta (with the beta stuff stripped out) and if anyone was able to confirm that before it presumably forced an update to 10.0.1.
My launch day iPhone 7 came with 10.0.1 installed. So while it’s possibke there is an iOS 10.0 final build, I can’t confirm what it was.

I would be shocked if it was 10.0 beta 8 though because there were 18 days between that build and the GM. Additionally, the build number increased almost 70 points.
 
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MozMan68

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My launch day iPhone 7 came with 10.0.1 installed. So while it’s possibke there is an iOS 10.0 final build, I can’t confirm what it was.

I would be shocked if it was 10.0 beta 8 though because there were 18 days between that build and the GM. Additionally, the build number increased almost 70 points.

But, isn't the point that folks on the beta program (developer or public) still get the "GM" early or at least on the day of release?

Unless you actually do not want to continue to get beta versions of updates throughout the year, there is no reason to remove the beta profile and get the GM like everyone else....it's all the same thing....
 

Mlrollin91

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But, isn't the point that folks on the beta program (developer or public) still get the "GM" early or at least on the day of release?

Unless you actually do not want to continue to get beta versions of updates throughout the year, there is no reason to remove the beta profile and get the GM like everyone else....it's all the same thing....
I’m not following. Developers get the GM the day of the event. What we are specifically talking about is the build of the GM being the final beta, which typically it’s not.
 

Phogro

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I’m not following. Developers get the GM the day of the event. What we are specifically talking about is the build of the GM being the final beta, which typically it’s not.

I've seen two examples iOS 10 and iOS 11, one was the same and one wasn't the same. Just nitpicking here, but can you really say "typically is not?" with only that information present in this thread?
 

Mlrollin91

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I've seen two examples iOS 10 and iOS 11, one was the same and one wasn't the same. Just nitpicking here, but can you really say "typically is not?" with only that information present in this thread?
If you read up, the poster incorrectly identifited iOS 10’s build number and admitted to it. It has happened once in 11 years. Thus, “typically not” is the correct terminology.

And even if it had happened two times in 11 years. The terminology is still correct. It’s way more likely than not that the GM will not be the final beta build.
 

Phogro

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If you read up, the poster incorrectly identifited iOS 10’s build number and admitted to it. It has happened once in 11 years. Thus, “typically not” is the correct terminology.

And even if it had happened two times in 11 years. The terminology is still correct. It’s way more likely than not that the GM will not be the final beta build.

I'm really confused. You're saying it's typically not the same build as the GM, but iOS 10 wasn't the same build as the GM, but you're saying iOS 10 wasn't typical?

Edit... nevermind I'm dumb. I get it
 

Mlrollin91

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I think I misunderstood I thought you were saying that typically Apple does not release the same build number in the final release.
That is what I’m saying. For X.0 versions of iOS. Only one time has the final beta been the same as the GM. 9 times it has not been. X.x and X.x.x builds are a different story. Most of the time the final beta is the same as the public release for those.
 

Phogro

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That is what I’m saying. For X.0 versions of iOS. Only one time has the final beta been the same as the GM. 9 times it has not been. X.x and X.x.x builds are a different story. Most of the time the final beta is the same as the public release for those.

Got it, I was confused. o_O
 

GreyOS

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3rd Sep - Beta 12
6th Sep - Beta 13
10th Sep - Beta 14

12th Sep
9:30 - Receiving news of a possible delay to the Apple event - more time needed for iOS fixes
10:00 - Beta 15 released
10:15 - Apple event begins. “Please test while we talk about the new iPhones, they’re not much different to last years’”
11:00 - “OK, just going to pause the keynote for a moment here to say thanks for the beta feedback! We’re pleased to announce... Beta 16!”
12:00 - “... and that’s why you should really buy the new iPhones. OK, Craig, we good to go? Cool.” GM released to developers.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
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3rd Sep - Beta 12
6th Sep - Beta 13
10th Sep - Beta 14

12th Sep
9:30 - Receiving news of a possible delay to the Apple event - more time needed for iOS fixes
10:00 - Beta 15 released
10:15 - Apple event begins. “Please test while we talk about the new iPhones, they’re not much different to last years’”
11:00 - “OK, just going to pause the keynote for a moment here to say thanks for the beta feedback! We’re pleased to announce... Beta 16!”
12:00 - “... and that’s why you should really buy the new iPhones. OK, Craig, we good to go? Cool.” GM released to developers.
Thank you for the laugh.
 
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dannyyankou

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popup says there a new beta? Beta 12?
I get those pop ups randomly from time to time. I got this one at midnight a few days ago-
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