All Devices iOS 13 Speculation Thread [Merged]

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My shout is 13.1.4 this week and 13.2 next.

What’s the point of 13.1.4 then if they release 13.2 a week later? Are there any show-stopping bugs in 13.1.3?

 

[newellj]

I read alot about issues with the mail app. Could those impacted by this not use a 3rd party app. These are often much better than stock. Such as Edison, Spark or outlook.

I can't, and others are probably in the same situation. The way our corporate Exchange server is configured works only with the native Mail app.
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Would still love to know what the mail app issues are, I use an iCloud email as my primary and haven't noticed any issues with the built in mail app at all.

Sure, that works fine for iCloud email. Lots of people use their iPhones for corporate email, and iCloud isn't a choice.

 

[Blue Hawk]

Of course they can...but that's not a good answer. I've never used a third party mail app. You would think for something as important as "mail," Apple (which has had a stock app for a decade) could get it right.

I have been fortunate that the issues have been limited for me, but that doesn't mean I want it to at least work as well as it was before the update.

Especially you cannot change default apps on iOS. Now it’s „only“ the mail app. What if Safari is broken like the Mail app?

 

[Blaster13]

Nowt today weds this week...

 

[norm2816]

nothing today.

 

[waterskier2007]

Looks like another new version of catalina

Releases - Apple Developer

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[adrianlondon]

Looks like another new version of catalina

Releases - Apple Developer

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Apple Releases Revised macOS Catalina Supplemental Update

Apple today released a new supplemental update for macOS Catalina, nearly one week after releasing the first supplemental update and two weeks after the launch of macOS Catalina. The update can be downloaded through the Software Update section of the System Preferences app, but it may be...

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[dan9700]

if you downloaded last weeks Catalina update it doesn't show, its only for people that didn't install, strange

 

[Bobout]

I think Beta 4 tomorrow.. If the screw up on something they have time to fix it in the same week .. Just my guess

 

[s2mike]

Yeah I’d say Beta 4 tomorrow or Wednesday. Hopefully tomorrow.

 

[TheSkywalker77]

Yeah I’d say Beta 4 tomorrow or Wednesday. Hopefully tomorrow.

I'd say Wednesday, that's when Beta 3 was released last week.

 

[john991]

I’d say tomorrow.

 

[vtboyarc]

I wonder if the next beta will also be the one the public gets when it launches officially

 

[s2mike]

I wonder if the next beta will also be the one the public gets when it launches officially

Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.

 

[chillip]

Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.

Agreed. GM.

 

[smartmiller]

Agreed. GM.

I also guess that there won’t be many changes and the next will be the final 13.2 .

 

[tdar]

For those wondering about what's next, my friends with web trackers say that they are seeing 13.2.1 builds in their tracking. So it would appear that it will be before a full 13.3 build. 13.2 (for better or worse) looks to be about done, with a release in the next few days.

I think a note about the pace of iOS 13 is in order. We have never seen this pace before. Over the last month we saw 5 publicly released builds in less than 30 days. Some say this a good thing. I don't think so. It reflects what Apple thinks about the quality of this release. Not good. I am afraid that we will not see iOS 13 ever return to the quality of iOS 12. It seems destined to me to repeat iOS 11. OK, but not really up to Apple's standards-or ours.

 

[newellj]

For those wondering about what's next, my friends with web trackers say that they are seeing 13.2.1 builds in their tracking. So it would appear that it will be before a full 13.3 build. 13.2 (for better or worse) looks to be about done, with a release in the next few days.

I think a note about the pace of iOS 13 is in order. We have never seen this pace before. Over the last month we saw 5 publicly released builds in less than 30 days. Some say this a good thing. I don't think so. It reflects what Apple thinks about the quality of this release. Not good. I am afraid that we will not see iOS 13 ever return to the quality of iOS 12. It seems destined to me to repeat iOS 11. OK, but not really up to Apple's standards-or ours.

In my possibly jaded memory, 11 was never really right, and was a pig. It took a year and another full version update (12) to really get things working efficiently and correctly. I have been wondering if 13 isn't 11 all over again, which means we're waiting for 14, next year, to clean up 13.

 

[Broken Hope]

Wouldn't surprise me if we just get 13.2 final this week and no more beta releases. Since they need the final out before next week when the Beats Solo Pro release.

 

[norm2816]

GM today? release next week?

 

[dan9700]

My guess tomorrow beta 4 there isn’t any gm for these releases and next wend public release same as beta 4 without beta extras

 

[bigjnyc]

My guess tomorrow beta 4 there isn’t any gm for these releases and next wend public release same as beta 4 without beta extras

So it will be either today or Thursday. +/- 1 day from Dan's guess has been our most reliable indicator all year.

 

[mattburley7]

13.1 was released on a tuesday so im thinking public release today or next tuesday the 29th.

 

[john991]

13.1 was released on a tuesday so im thinking public release today or next tuesday the 29th.

And HomePod update too.😁

 

[mattburley7]

And HomePod update too.😁

hopefully they didnt delay this further to like 13.3 or something