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All Devices iOS 13 Speculation Thread [Merged]
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Well, yeah, I mean - ANY software could, in theory, brick your device. But I get what you mean.
Well, unfortunately I don't have that much experience with Betas nor the time to read 38 pages, go figure.**sigh**
Agreed. At this point the betas themselves are totally useable, but the biggest hits/misses can and do come from third party apps not working as they should as yet. So it all depends on one’s particular needs and setup. If my favourite weather app won’t work, not a big deal. However, if we use our iOS devices as POS terminals, etc. it becomes a different story.
Well, since you are doubling down, I will wade in here after my initial decision not to.
Perhaps if you don’t have much experience with betas, you’ve answered your own question. Even public betas can present enough issues to require a rollback to the current release version of iOS. If you are inexperienced, it would be wisest not to use the beta on a device you depend upon.
As a second point, why do you think you need to read 38 pages of this thread to know what's going on beta-wise? You would really only need the last 20-30 posts (at most). That would probably take under 90 seconds (since many of those posts [in this thread at least] contain such scintillating one word responses, like “Today?”).
People here are willing to provide assistance, but (some of us, at least) are just requesting the common courtesy that a user asking for help have first made a good faith effort to research the question first, particularly in a thread that exists solely to discuss the question you are asking.
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Gotta start somewhere, brother. I'm just learning. All I did was ask what the speculation was for the next release, in a speculation thread. Wasn't aware about the sensitivities. Surely you're aware most people don't read the majority, or even a quarter of threads? not everyone here posting is as experienced as others, nor have the time to troll through 38 pages. Now, I'm going to enjoy a beer ;-)
A beer this time of the morning? Oh wait you’re down under so it’s tomorrow or is it tonight ? Either way you are ahead of us, so by all means enjoy !
I’ve been to Sydney, Cairns, Canberra & Hamilton Islands. Loved every minute of it.
There is no schedule. The next beta will be released when they have either fixed enough bugs, or see a fall off in bug reports. Given how stable this release has been, that means it'll be quite a while.
What you are all missing, is that the reason you can't rely on the history of beta releases is because this is the first time when there's been a split between iOS 13 and iPadOS - it's very tricky. Two reasons - one, they are not so separate like, say watchOS, so they have to keep going back instead of just having a team only work on one OS like the watch. Second, they must split the number of engineers between the two and then coordinate for the similarities. It's a new paradigm - past history is no guide here. We're in new and uncharted waters.
What you are all missing, is that the reason you can't rely on the history of beta releases is because this is the first time when there's been a split between iOS 13 and iPadOS - it's very tricky. Two reasons - one, they are not so separate like, say watchOS, so they have to keep going back instead of just having a team only work on one OS like the watch. Second, they must split the number of engineers between the two and then coordinate for the similarities. It's a new paradigm - past history is no guide here. We're in new and uncharted waters.
So, tomorrow then!
Just funnin’! I agree with you in part, the part about not being able to rely on the past history with betas. Apple has shown that they will do what they do on their own timeline.
That said, i don’t think the “branching” of iOS 13 and iPadOS will make that great a difference. So far, the beta release schedule has matched that of other years (2 weeks between the first several betas). I expect that will continue. Apparent stability (which this one does not really have, at least as compared to iOS 12) probably has nothing to do with Apple’s release schedule. I suspect (as I have said before in these 38 pages) that Apple has the release dates figured out way in advance on a nice Gannt chart in Craig Federighi’s conference room. The only way they’re going to deviate from that schedule is if there is a major problem with a release.
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Oh great. It is a very big country and there certainly are many beautiful places, but I can't say that about Canberra lol
I’m quite certain we won’t see a new beta until August 23. Check back around that time.
Yes, I meant that there are some annoying bugs that I hope beta 3 fixes.
I think that just means you lose your saved health data and other more "personal" stuff...maybe saved passwords?? Your iPhone would still revert back to your last back-up...all of the apps, music, photos, etc.
EDIT: Whoops..reading the response below, I just realized I misread your post. What he said...as long as you don't back up on iTunes while you are on iOS13, your iOS12 encrypted back-up should be the last one on there.
I do that as well...iCloud back-up every night...encrypted back-up on iTunes every once and a while (every month maybe??) or when I'm doing stuff like downloading a new beta or getting a new phone.
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The iCloud backup can't be used with iOS 12 if you backed up from 13. However, if you still have that iOS 12 backup in iTunes, it should work. Just make sure that your phone doesn't start syncing when you plug it in to your computer and replace your old backup since it isn't archived. Just archive it before plugging in to be sure.
