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iOS 14 is literally Android

C. Robert said:
Tablet support is terrible on android also.
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Terrible? It's non-bloody-existent!

Back in the day I owned first a Xoom (lasted 2 years), then later a Nexus 7 (lasted 18 months). I really wanted them to succeed with tablets.

A few years later I was trying to find a decent Android tablet with a stylus. My choices were a Nvidea Shield Tablet or a Samsung Note. Then I started to look at the state of tablet apps and was shocked his dog awful it was.

I brought an iPad Pro 9.7". Then I swapped my 1.5 year old Nexus 6 for an iPhone 7+. Then I got myself a MBP.

My iPad's over 4 years old and going strong. My phone's 3+ years and still in daily use. MBP also in fine shape.

Not sure if Android's problems are just firmware. Pretty sure cheap-as-chips hardware also plays a part.
 
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I think we're giving Android too much credit. I'm with AndrewR23 on the jailbreak scene comment. They deserve some credit on how some of the latest items are being brought to life as well.
 
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barondebxl said:
I agree and disagree here. It’s true that a lot of mainstream users will not use the upcoming features. One of my friend didn’t even know about Face ID on his XR and to this day he doesn’t use it so that goes to show you. My girlfriend didn’t know about the iOS 13 update until I told her and even then she was like “it’s the same thing”. iPhone users tend to be like that though, not so much on Android. Android users are fully aware of the features the OS offers (for the most part) and they take advantage of it. Split screen multitasking, picture In picture etc... I stuff I use in my S10 on the daily but miss when I use my iPhone.
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If that’s how you see the world then you have a tunnel vision. From my experience I could say the opposite easily. Android users are fully aware of the features? Do you how many Android users out there? Gets out of your cave.
 
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matrix07 said:
If that’s how you see the world then you have a tunnel vision. From my experience I could say the opposite easily. Android users are fully aware of the features? Do you how many Android users out there? Gets out of your cave.
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No, get out of your feelings. Speaking in general, doesn't mean every single users. You iOS ppl are too much in your feelings
 
besnfrd said:
I think we're giving Android too much credit. I'm with AndrewR23 on the jailbreak scene comment. They deserve some credit on how some of the latest items are being brought to life as well.
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Ditto. iPhone Jailbrake Community is very creative. No doubt Apple keep a watch on it to study features.
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barondebxl said:
Speaking in general, doesn't mean every single users
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That’s a strange definition of “in general”. You can speak only about people in your world, not in general.
And I don’t have a feeling about your post. Why should I? I just state a fact that of you believe in what you posted then you’re having a tunnel vision.
 
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TiggrToo said:
Terrible? It's non-bloody-existent!

Back in the day I owned first a Xoom (lasted 2 years), then later a Nexus 7 (lasted 18 months). I really wanted them to succeed with tablets.

A few years later I was trying to find a decent Android tablet with a stylus. My choices were a Nvidea Shield Tablet or a Samsung Note. Then I started to look at the state of tablet apps and was shocked his dog awful it was.

I brought an iPad Pro 9.7". Then I swapped my 1.5 year old Nexus 6 for an iPhone 7+. Then I got myself a MBP.

My iPad's over 4 years old and going strong. My phone's 3+ years and still in daily use. MBP also in fine shape.

Not sure if Android's problems are just firmware. Pretty sure cheap-as-chips hardware also plays a part.
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It’s just a bunch of hardware companys piggy backing off of a software company. It’s just a hot mess.
 
C. Robert said:
It’s as much android as a 500 horsepower mustang is to a 500 horsepower Ferrari.
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Remember, the GT 350R can actually take out a Ferrari pretty easily in handling and in speed. Check the Nuremburg times. The Shelby GT 350R beats down a Ferrari 430 Italia with room to spare.
 
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pbonitati said:
Remember, the GT 350R can actually take out a Ferrari pretty easily in handling and in speed. Check the Nuremburg times. The Shelby GT 350R beats down a Ferrari 430 Italia with room to spare.
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They both still are cheaply made and 100% of the work would want the Ferrari
 
Pangalactic said:
I'm sorry, but as someone who has both an iPhone and Android, I found the presentation hilarious, especially when Craig was talking about the exciting new features that have existed on Android for several years 🤣 specifically:

- Widgets on the home screen. We had that for years
- Picture in picture. Also had it for a very long time
- Improved Siri, so...Google Assistant? Hopefully something on that level
- Sending audio messages with voice control. Yup, also exists on Android
- Siri translations, aka...Google Translate? With conversation mode like...Google Translate? And also works offline like...Google Translate?
- Better maps, aka...Google Maps?

Not gonna lie, I thought auto-organized apps are a great idea and the new conversation features are neat, and of course, there are other features that make iOS different. But these parts made genuinely chuckle.
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Whether it looks like Android or not won't worry most people and I include myself in that. As long as it brings useful features then I don't care if its been copied from elsewhere.
 
pbonitati said:
Remember, the GT 350R can actually take out a Ferrari pretty easily in handling and in speed. Check the Nuremburg times. The Shelby GT 350R beats down a Ferrari 430 Italia with room to spare.
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Ferrari 488 Pista is 30 seconds per lap faster than the GT350R around the Ring.... 430 is a very old model. 30 seconds is night and day difference
 
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BugeyeSTI said:
Ferrari 488 Pista is 30 seconds per lap faster than the GT350R around the Ring.... 430 is a very old model. 30 seconds is night and day difference
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Everything about apple makes it a high market item, like an expensive car or piece of jewelry. We pay for the software support, hardware support, clean design, purpose made hardware paired to the software, stores that cater to us, customer support that is second to none. Android has none of that. You’re always working with a phone store and the OEM, or mailing it in to get fixed.
 
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C. Robert said:
What is more stable about it?
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Apps. Specifically core / productivity apps and browser.
Memory management and data (RAM) handling

In iOS I am having issues with Messages, Mail, Reminders, multi-tasking, Safari - little nagging things.
Examples:
Messages that won't or have difficulty going to a a non-iOS user
Mail that fails to download or properly notify
Sharing data between apps and one app just goes ahead and reloads - tabs love to do this
Reminders that just fail to work

On Android I am having pretty much no issues of this type. If I do, I can assign an alternative default app in many cases.

For my daily use, my Android device (Razer) just works. I can count on it.
Can't say the same for my Pro Max. It is like after every update, a new, an old, or existing bug just seems to cause issues. Nothing that makes the device totally unusable, rather makes it at times frustrating to use.
 
Rhonindk said:
Apps. Specifically core / productivity apps and browser.
Memory management and data (RAM) handling

In iOS I am having issues with Messages, Mail, Reminders, multi-tasking, Safari - little nagging things.
Examples:
Messages that won't or have difficulty going to a a non-iOS user
Mail that fails to download or properly notify
Sharing data between apps and one app just goes ahead and reloads - tabs love to do this
Reminders that just fail to work

On Android I am having pretty much no issues of this type. If I do, I can assign an alternative default app in many cases.

For my daily use, my Android device (Razer) just works. I can count on it.
Can't say the same for my Pro Max. It is like after every update, a new, an old, or existing bug just seems to cause issues. Nothing that makes the device totally unusable, rather makes it at times frustrating to use.
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yes iOS 13 had annoying bugs when it comes out. The most annoying was the mail app not downloading emails and our CEO asking us to fix his phone. Eventually we convinced him there’s nothing we could do since it’s an iOS bug. Eventually Apple fixed the bug. I’m happy with my Galaxy S10+ but if Apple releases a midnight blue iPhone 12 then I might switch. The better camera, and improvements in iOS 14 have me intrigued.
 
lyunmac said:
yes iOS 13 had annoying bugs when it comes out. The most annoying was the mail app not downloading emails and our CEO asking us to fix his phone. Eventually we convinced him there’s nothing we could do since it’s an iOS bug. Eventually Apple fixed the bug. I’m happy with my Galaxy S10+ but if Apple releases a midnight blue iPhone 12 then I might switch. The better camera, and improvements in iOS 14 have me intrigued.
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Glad it was fixed for you and your CEO. For me, it never was and there were many other bugs.
Still having issues with Exchange and iCloud mail along with intermittent GMail bugs.
 
pbonitati said:
Remember, the GT 350R can actually take out a Ferrari pretty easily in handling and in speed. Check the Nuremburg times. The Shelby GT 350R beats down a Ferrari 430 Italia with room to spare.
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That Ferrari 430 is 15 years old and was Ferrari's take on a "cheap" Ferrari.
You're comparing it to a current model Ford which is supposed to be the top of the line model in the Mustang class.
If that Ford wouldn't be faster it would be pretty shameful.

The last official Ferrari lap around the ring was 32 seconds faster than your Ford, if you want to keep the analogy going.

And it's the Nürburgring, located in the town of Nürburg.

Nuremburg was home to the Nazi trials after the 2nd WW.
It's 400km further east.
There's no green hell anywhere near it.
 
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The Game 161 said:
Android on steroids you mean.....how dare apple use useful features from android

Just like android stole gesture from the iPhone...who cares who copies who
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I think the most concerned for us (users) is not who copies who (let‘s just sit nicely and watch their legal team fight each other), but who provide the smoothest experience.
 
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barbu said:
Lame flame.
Provide the time code where they claimed to have invented widgets. And they did invent google maps if you recall. Show me the google translate that works offline. And who was first with a voice assistant again?
Plus, I’d like to see you point to a droid that has system wide voice control accessibility features like iOS 13 has.

Also, literally, you misused that word.
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You can download Google Translate and download content of offline translations.
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C DM said:
What seems to happen when supposedly enough people misuse something repeatedly and everyone around should should adapt to that. Maybe left will become right at some point going down that path.
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I think it is similar to when someone "axes" you’re a question.
 
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