iOS 15 may be least exciting version yet

[TimFL1]

No iPhone 12, I am not willing to install beta on my primary phone. But iOS 15 is lag fast on iPhone 7 (I know it is beta). It is four day now, so don't tell me it is still indexing.

Although I like new Safari, but it is pretty laggy. Lot of blank pages when scrolling, pages will refuse load. Phone runs very hot all day and battery life is bad.

I have restored to iOS 14.6, much nicer experience.

Again, I know it is beta and I am not mad... I am fully expected bad experience...

Might want to get your phone checked out then, cause I have it installed on my ancient iPhone 7 and it‘s smooth as butter. It was laggy but the first restart after installing fixed any performance issues.

 

[thewhitehart]

I’m excited about selecting text from photos and being able to edit location and time within the Photos app (finally). I’m also excited about built-in verification codes and the iCloud+ features—private relay, throwaway aliases, and the possibility of moving my own domain to iCloud. I was shocked they’d even consider that feature. Overall, I’m really impressed with this release.

 

[bushman4]

We don’t know the whole story yet till they announce the iPhone 13 in September. There might Be a nice surprise that nobody has leaked yet

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

No iPhone 12, I am not willing to install beta on my primary phone. But iOS 15 is lag fast on iPhone 7 (I know it is beta). It is four day now, so don't tell me it is still indexing.

Although I like new Safari, but it is pretty laggy. Lot of blank pages when scrolling, pages will refuse load. Phone runs very hot all day and battery life is bad.

I have restored to iOS 14.6, much nicer experience.

Again, I know it is beta and I am not mad... I am fully expected bad experience...

I didn't say anything about an iPhone 12. Or indexing for that matter. Seems the general consensus (including my own experience) is that it's a pretty good experience for a beta 1. If you're having performance issues I'd say it's worth considering some basic troubleshooting before knee-jerking your way down a major revision and possibly losing data.

 

[gwhizkids]

We don’t know the whole story yet till they announce the iPhone 13 in September. There might Be a nice surprise that nobody has leaked yet

Undoubtedly there will be something but it will be for the next phone only. I can't recall a time when they ported a feature announced in connection with the new phones back to the old ones. Otherwise, they'd announce it at WWDC and let devs get their teeth into it for the whole summer, not just the 7-9 days between phone announcements and general iOS 15 release

 

[Aoligei]

I didn't say anything about an iPhone 12. Or indexing for that matter. Seems the general consensus (including my own experience) is that it's a pretty good experience for a beta 1. If you're having performance issues I'd say it's worth considering some basic troubleshooting before knee-jerking your way down a major revision and possibly losing data.

Yeah. I had back up with my iOS 14. I simply restored he back up after downgrading.

There really aren’t anything that makes me want stay iOS 15… I am more or less will stay at iOS 14 for little bit longer

 

[macOS Lynx]

I don't think it's a boring or small release, just that there doesn't seem to be any one big marquee feature to act as a main theme for iOS to revolve around, the same way we had widgets with iOS 14.

No offense, but how on earth is Widgets a "theme" for iOS to revolve around? It was one feature that was only on the Home Screen that was relatively limited in function - it's not like there was some super deep tight integration in the system with widgets or anything.

And you could easily say that the Focus modes and SharePlay are two bigger features than widgets - more people are calling their friends than they are using widgets, and both features have super deep system integration with both system and third party apps, instead of just being what is basically a Windows Live Tile on your Home Screen.

 

[Abazigal]

No offense, but how on earth is Widgets a "theme" for iOS to revolve around? It was one feature that was only on the Home Screen that was relatively limited in function - it's not like there was some super deep tight integration in the system with widgets or anything.

It's a very visual feature that's easily marketable on posters. Once glance and people will be able to see what widgets are and do. And we all saw how widgets and custom shortcut icons were all the rage for a while after iOS 14 was released.

And you could easily say that the Focus modes and SharePlay are two bigger features than widgets - more people are calling their friends than they are using widgets, and both features have super deep system integration with both system and third party apps, instead of just being what is basically a Windows Live Tile on your Home Screen.

I think focus is a feature that needs to be actually used for people to understand the value; it's not something that is easily conveyed in videos. I don't think that people feel (or at least they are not going to readily admit) that they are being too distracted by their phones at work that I need to set custom DnD profiles throughout the day. It also looks like it will take a bit of time to customise and set up, so I don't see it as being "sexy" enough to get people talking, even though I am sure a lot of work and thought has gone into it.

 

[dannyyankou]

New year, same thread I see

 

[derekamoss]

Errr, did any of you even watch the keynote? Watch until you see Universal Control. I was like whaaaaat? That’s like magic. Sure it’s demoed on macOS part, but that probably would require iOS 15 on the iDevices.

Also has been a Microsoft Garage App since 2011. not really magic at all and have been using it for years...

Microsoft download from The Garage: Mouse without Borders - The AI Blog

Microsoft's Garage helps to incubate grass roots ideas from across the company - today, one of the best ideas I have seen is available as a free download. Read more on this Next at Microsoft exclusive.

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[ian87w]

Also has been a Microsoft Garage App since 2011. not really magic at all and have been using it for years...

Microsoft download from The Garage: Mouse without Borders - The AI Blog

Microsoft's Garage helps to incubate grass roots ideas from across the company - today, one of the best ideas I have seen is available as a free download. Read more on this Next at Microsoft exclusive.

blogs.microsoft.com

Why isn't that set as standard feature on Windows 10? Why a user has to dig through this garage project?

 

[macOS Lynx]

It's a very visual feature that's easily marketable on posters. Once glance and people will be able to see what widgets are and do. And we all saw how widgets and custom shortcut icons were all the rage for a while after iOS 14 was released.

I think focus is a feature that needs to be actually used for people to understand the value; it's not something that is easily conveyed in videos. I don't think that people feel (or at least they are not going to readily admit) that they are being too distracted by their phones at work that I need to set custom DnD profiles throughout the day. It also looks like it will take a bit of time to customise and set up, so I don't see it as being "sexy" enough to get people talking, even though I am sure a lot of work and thought has gone into it.

I disagree - There's plenty you can easily convey in videos and screenshots with everything that's in iOS 15 - that's literally what WWDC is.

I didn't see widgets in a lot of advertisements nor did I really see people blow up with widgets. Home Screen customization did with a feature that was never once publicly discussed by Apple.

Everyone I've shown Focus modes to on my phone immediately grasps the concept and most of them seem excited. Doesn't really seem like something you need to "use".

I guess if you're the kind of person who is 100% only surface level visual (judge a book by its cover kind of person) then maybe? But even then...

 

[jessicaberman]

Using the iOS 15 Beta, it doesn’t feel much different than iOS 14. At first glance, it wouldn’t even know it was the new update.

I totally agree with your words as it's not having another upgraded feeling but the same as earlier iOS 14. Hope in future , may upgrade with new update.

 

[kave]

For the first time in many years I would say i am even more excited. So much so that I am seriously considering installing the delevoper beta on my main devices. The OCR features and map features are main stuff I would use very much.

 

[mjschabow]

For the first time in many years I would say i am even more excited. So much so that I am seriously considering installing the delevoper beta on my main devices. The OCR features and map features are main stuff I would use very much.

Yep, I see this update as not very flashy but very practical.

 

[AltecX]

If you need a Mac, buy a Mac, don't buy an iPad and expect it to be a Mac.

Thas why I use my Surface Pro so much instead of my iPad mini. It's a full laptop AND a full tablet. The fact that Win 11 is improving Touch UI and adding Android apps is going to give me EVEN LESS reason to use my iPad. At this point I only use the iPad because its lighter to hold. Apple REALLY needs to start overlapping capabilities like Surface has. The lack of that ability is why I've refused to ever pay for an iPad Pro. To me there is NOTHING "pro" about it, it's just more of an "iPad Bigger".

I'd LOVE if I could replace my Surface Pro with a lighter iPad with better battery, more so with the new M1 in them, but I just can't since it's so limited on the heavy lifting the OS lets it do when the hardware is capable of it. When the iPad came out I had hoped that at this point I would see NO reason for any other device, but the software is preventing that.

 

[kave]

My Surface Book 2 13" is no way as nice to use as an ipad, even for consumption. It gets quite hot from mild use and the displays touch function is noway near as good as an iPads. It is a nice idea but poorly executed. It also lacks most of apps that I use on the iPad to read papers etc.

 

[danielagos]

Also has been a Microsoft Garage App since 2011. not really magic at all and have been using it for years...

Microsoft download from The Garage: Mouse without Borders - The AI Blog

Microsoft's Garage helps to incubate grass roots ideas from across the company - today, one of the best ideas I have seen is available as a free download. Read more on this Next at Microsoft exclusive.

blogs.microsoft.com

That's a third-party app that you have to install in each computer and with many limitations for power users (the first three are particularly weird):

• Copy/Paste between machines only works with a single file and the size limit is 100MB.
• Drag/Drop between machines works with single file only and it does not work with network file.
• Copy/Paste, Drag/Drop do not work with folder and multiple files, the workaround is to zip them first.
• If the host machine has a full-screen focused Remote Desktop/virtual machine window (or some kind of simulator window), the keyboard might not follow the mouse to the slaver machine. The workaround is to enable the option "Hide mouse at screen edge" on the Settings form or switch the focus to another window first.
• In Windows 8 & up, the mouse pointer might be invisible if there is no physical mouse attached to the machine. Plug in an unused mouse or turn on Mouse Keys in Control Panel.
• Some users mentioned having the KeysNotMatched error when reinstalling the app in one machine even typing in the same key. Restarting the app in both machines would help.
• After changing the Display's Scale (DPI) in Display settings, the app's Settings form's UI may be broken, some labels/textboxes may be overlapped by others. To resolve this, sign out and sign in of Windows again. In some versions of Windows, restarting an app is not enough but you would have to start a new Window session after changing the Display's Scale.

Compared to that, yes, dragging the mouse between a Mac and another Mac or an iPad is "magic": the implementation matters and it means it can reach more people.

 

[fisherking]

i don't know what ppl expect; to have their mind blown once a year? 🤔 as has been stated, we're at a place where incremental change happens, and personally, am good with that. i don't mind adapting to some new ways of doing things (safari on monterey, for example), but i don't feel the need to learn a new language once a year, every year...

 

[tomtattoo]

i don't know what ppl expect; to have their mind blown once a year?

For the money we give and for the money they have I expect to have my mind blown away TWICE a year. And get rid of almost all bugs. I cannot understand this submissive behavior of many users like: Ok, some small changes..that is enough. I want a keynote where you cannot shut your mouth for a week. Every year.

 

[MozMan68]

For the money we give and for the money they have I expect to have my mind blown away TWICE a year. And get rid of almost all bugs. I cannot understand this submissive behavior of many users like: Ok, some small changes..that is enough. I want a keynote where you cannot shut your mouth for a week. Every year.

I guess you’ll be buying a Pixel or Galaxy then? Oh, wait….

 

[fisherking]

For the money we give and for the money they have I expect to have my mind blown away TWICE a year. And get rid of almost all bugs. I cannot understand this submissive behavior of many users like: Ok, some small changes..that is enough. I want a keynote where you cannot shut your mouth for a week. Every year.

good luck with that. tech is a science. tech advancement is led by imaginative people, but it's not magic. if you're looking for magic tricks, there are websites that sell that sort-of thing.

and bugs are complicated. think of all the variables out there (different hardware, apps, needs, etc). plus, sometimes bugs don't rear their ugly heads until the OS is out in the wild. either way, there's no advancement without risk; bugs happen.

i want a functional, secure, stable, fast system. apple gives me that, altho it's not perfect. what is??

EDIT: also, meant to ask: how much money do you spend each year on each new OS?... 🤔

 

[martint235]

OMG public beta 2 is so smooth

 

[kave]

For the money we give and for the money they have I expect to have my mind blown away TWICE a year. And get rid of almost all bugs. I cannot understand this submissive behavior of many users like: Ok, some small changes..that is enough. I want a keynote where you cannot shut your mouth for a week. Every year.

I m quite sure Apple users demand stability, stability and as a third stability over bells and whistles. Maybe Android users prefer new useless features more often?

 

[martint235]

For the money we give and for the money they have I expect to have my mind blown away TWICE a year. And get rid of almost all bugs. I cannot understand this submissive behavior of many users like: Ok, some small changes..that is enough. I want a keynote where you cannot shut your mouth for a week. Every year.

Really? I want a phone that manages my email and calendar. Oh and can make phone calls. It never ceases to amaze me how demanding “apple consumere” are