Not really, what the use of an "Intelligence" that can't speak in one's own language? Even in the US, there are people, who don't speak English (or don't want to).
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iOS 18.1 region limitation loophole
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Again, missing my point. @drak22 inquired why there was such a rush to try out Apple Intelligence if it only supports American English. My point, in response, was that the rush (which I can only determine from what I read here as I have no other access to uptake data) was a result of many if not most of the participants on these forums natively speaking and writing English.
Your point, however, seems to assume that I (and Apple) have no interest in expanding Apple Intelligence’s capabilities beyond English. That is not the case for me or for Apple. I am sure Apple wants to expand beyond English as quickly as it reasonably can. Those are paying customers and they want it in their hands soon.
There's no rush. iOS 18, or macOS 15 are still beta.
Sure, "Apple wants to expand beyond English," but it still has to get over EU's "limitations." And, there's Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Tagalog, Vietnamese etc, etc spoken in the US, so Apple has to hurry.
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I speak Slovak and we never had Siri in slovakian language since Siris "inception" in 2011 😬 Apple does not care about some of its customers, they treat them as 3rd rate garbage...
Well, if you had Apple "intelligence" you'd know that. > 5 million people. Slovakia is a sovereign country. Spoken in Slovakia mostly, in Czech Republic and in Hungary at a lesser amount. And, most probably in the border areas in Poland, Ukraine and Austria.
For comparison, Siri speaks in Norwegian Bokmål, and that's less than 6 million people worldwide. But, it doesn't speak in Norwegian Nynorsk, spoken by ~ 15% of Norwegians. (info from Copilot)
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High enough for Google to support the language no problem apparently. Apple should do better.
Thank you. Also of note is the Finnish language. Finland population is 5.6mil. And Siri supports that language.
You can't see it, can you?
This situation where both Google and Samsung can implement deep AI, is exactly what Apple doesn't want for its operating systems.
Apple wants only Apple to be able to provide deep AI integration in iOS etc. How can Apple legally in the EU stop any third party from implementing an alternative to Apple Intelligence in iOS and be guaranteed that EU will not force able to open up?
No, I still don't get what you mean.
Both Google and Samsung implemented their AI features in their respective mobile OSes exactly the same way as Apple is about to with iOS.
Maybe you thought that I meant that Google or Samsung should be able to integrate their AI suite into iOS?
Because that's not what I said or meant at all.
Each of these vendors is already providing deep AI integration into their respective systems exclusively.
And they don't allow anyone else to just come in and replace that integration with another one either.
The EU does not automatically prosecute every single 1st party software integration just because it isn't modular and swappable for 3rd party alternatives. There's more nuance to that.
Apple could just offer alternatives to the optional ChatGPT integration at most, that's it.
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Have a read, REGULATION (EU) 2024/1689 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL laying down harmonised rules on artificial intelligence and amending Regulations ...
Yes, a joint framework for overseeing AI feature implementation is good. The EU worked with the US on this.
Does that state anywhere that you cannot have deep AI 1st party integrations in your OS, or that you have to make every single aspect of them interchangeable with 3rd party alternatives?
No. And therefore Microsoft, Google, Samsung integrated AI tightly into their operating systems with no problems.
On what the EU worked with the US?
The EU consumer rights come first, not any company rights, either US, South Korean, Chinese or any other.
Joint Statement on Competition in Generative AI Foundation Models and AI Products
Joint Statement on Competition in Generative AI Foundation Models and AI Products
Lot of words, but anything serious?Joint Statement on Competition in Generative AI Foundation Models and AI Products
Joint Statement on Competition in Generative AI Foundation Models and AI Productscompetition-policy.ec.europa.eu
Well, yes, but obviously not on this thread...
you are missing my point: for the countries where the feature is locked (aka EU), it doesn't matter much at the moment.
On this thread, we are talking about the "region limitation loophole", and obviously the countries where people speak and write English primarily are NOT concerned by this issue.
So they will be able to try apple intelligence as soon as it's out..
My point is that for the people who won't be able to test it as soon as it's out, it doesn't really matter much given that it doesn't support anything other than English at the moment.
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Well, in "American" English, but how many in the world outside US, who speaks that?
for the people who don't speak "American" English, changing the main language from UK English to American English does not seems to me like a major inconvenience 😅😅
And if it is, then you need to wait this is available on your English version anyway
That isn’t the discussion, it’s a user who’s upset that Apple haven’t catered for him in Slovak.
FWIW, I have always used my phone in US English (just the language) and I live in Europe (not the EU thankfully).
The only thing that bothers me about the US English regional setting I'd have to use for Apple Intelligence is the 12 hour clock format. I can't deal with seeing "3:30" instead of "15:30", it drives me crazy 😂
The only thing that bothers me about the US English regional setting I'd have to use for Apple Intelligence is the 12 hour clock format. I can't deal with seeing "3:30" instead of "15:30", it drives me crazy 😂
There's a writeup here - https://adamdemasi.com/2024/04/20/ios-eligibility.html - about tricking iOS into thinking it's in Europe (while being in Australia) to enjoy all the EU DMA, with more technical detail here - https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Eligibility
There's a bunch more stuff than just a VPN + apple account location, with the phone also using the SIM card, nearby WIFi network regulatory details, and local mobile network signals.
There's a bunch more stuff than just a VPN + apple account location, with the phone also using the SIM card, nearby WIFi network regulatory details, and local mobile network signals.