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iOS 18.1 region limitation loophole
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Off-topic but no, it's not. Switzerland has bilateral agreement with the EU/EEA single market, but it's not technically part of it.
And luckily, this bilateral relationship while not being part of it also means that we're not being shut out from Apple Intelligence 😉
How many languages should Apple be made to include in Siri?
Should Siri be available in Pawnee? Njerep? Ainu?
There has to be a cut off somewhere as to what is profitable for Apple to develop and release.
People should learn to respect other people's languages...
There’s no disrespect there, only the tacit statement that resources are scarce, even for Apple. There are thousands of languages spoken on Earth and Apple cannot localize to all of them. It has to draw the line somewhere. It may be that the Slovak language is on the “wrong” side of that line.
It’s simple economics at work.
All while both google and microsoft are able to fully support it without any problem whatsoever?
You make a fair point about resource allocation. It's true that companies, even large ones like Apple, have to make decisions about where to focus their localization efforts. Slovak is indeed an important language:It's spoken by about 5 million people and is one of the EU's 24 official languages. Google and Microsoft already support it, which shows its significance in the tech world. While it's understandable that companies need to prioritize, it's also worth considering the impact of including or excluding certain languages.Every language represents a unique culture and community. Perhaps we could encourage Apple to expand their language support when possible?
How lovely, when consumers defend the company and its right for more and more profits, rather than the consumer!
It looks like most consumers in one country, loves to receive whatever the company gives, rather than demand what the consumer needs. When the Windows 8 debacle came by, it was the consumers of the world that put an end to that. The same goes with the start menu problem. Apple device buyers appear to have handed over their rights to the company, happy to get whatever "improvement" it throws their way.😏
Did you read the rest of my comment or did you just cherry pick whatever you could get enraged about?
Sure I did, "Perhaps we could encourage Apple to expand their language support when possible?" So, how about that "encouragement" or being quite soft about demanding your own rights? What was the last "feature" that the consumers demanded and got from Apple?
Frankly I am surprised that Slovak isn’t supported yet. But while others do, it may come down to how many users Apple has in Slovakia. Even if Microsoft and Google have many, it’s possible Apple has many fewer and thus it’s not economical to provide this language support.
How lovely, when consumers defend the company and its right for more and more profits, rather than the consumer!
It looks like most consumers in one country, loves to receive whatever the company gives, rather than demand what the consumer needs. When the Windows 8 debacle came by, it was the consumers of the world that put an end to that. The same goes with the start menu problem. Apple device buyers appear to have handed over their rights to the company, happy to get whatever "improvement" it throws their way.
I hate to tell you pal, but if Apple doesn’t make profits, there ain’t going to be no Apple. They are not a public utility. And last I checked, Slovakia is no longer a Communist country.
It is pretty hard to change the stamped-on-thinking that the companies must make profit some people are taught from childhood.
Sure, since 17 July 1992, and that's 32 years ago!
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Sounds like you're confusing a company with a governmental institution (which is quite funny, coming from Slovakia which aims to be the next Hungary but that's a different topic all together) with your "demanding your own rights". We're talking about a company here, there's no requirement of them to provide anything in any language really. The only "demanding" you can do is go to the competition and buy their products.
I am not from Slovakia. And what's wrong with Hungary looking after their own rights?
Exactly! And, that means profit at any means. Ever been to a board meeting?
Consumer rights are hard to fathom to people, who are being taught to serve companies (business) from the birth. The competition, by the way, also must undergo the same consumer rights.
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I don't think we need to be cherry picking languages which lack proper support from Apple, let's have a more extensive overview.
So all of these are languages spoken by countries on the European continent, which lack full or even any support for typing whatsoever (e.g. slide-to-type/predictive/contextual suggestions...):
Norwegian, Danish, Finnish, Czech, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian, Ukrainian, Russian, Bulgarian, Latvian, Estonian, Lithuanian, Greek, Croatian, Slovenian
These are spoken by millions, even tens of millions of people. There are no third world countries behind these languages. Some are richer, some poorer, basically all of these are above the world average in GDP & buying power.
Denmark, Norway straight up rich af with iOS market share above that of the US.
There's no excuses - Apple has been extremely lazy with language support even in some very strong and sizable markets. It's pitiful. They should do better. Their competition has done better for the better part of a decade now.
Especially now with integrated LLMs, there should not be any compromises as far as working with languages goes.
So all of these are languages spoken by countries on the European continent, which lack full or even any support for typing whatsoever (e.g. slide-to-type/predictive/contextual suggestions...):
Norwegian, Danish, Finnish, Czech, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian, Ukrainian, Russian, Bulgarian, Latvian, Estonian, Lithuanian, Greek, Croatian, Slovenian
These are spoken by millions, even tens of millions of people. There are no third world countries behind these languages. Some are richer, some poorer, basically all of these are above the world average in GDP & buying power.
Denmark, Norway straight up rich af with iOS market share above that of the US.
There's no excuses - Apple has been extremely lazy with language support even in some very strong and sizable markets. It's pitiful. They should do better. Their competition has done better for the better part of a decade now.
Especially now with integrated LLMs, there should not be any compromises as far as working with languages goes.
True. Same goes for services like Apple Fitness+. No excuse why it has not been rolled out worldwide in English as most of these fitness apps are in English only anyway.
Got Apple Intelligence now working in the NL by logging on to my US Apple ID for Media & Purchases (and the region/language settings). It disappears again if you log back into your EU Apple ID but as long as you keep it on the American (or I guess whatever non-EU ID), it is working. Sucks Apple Music now doesn't see my subscription anymore sigh.
Working here in Spain too, on a Swiss iPhone (here on holidays).
My iCloud and developer accounts are Swiss. I just changed de phone region to the USA. Everything else is in English already since this is the way I use it all the time.
My iCloud and developer accounts are Swiss. I just changed de phone region to the USA. Everything else is in English already since this is the way I use it all the time.
I was just told that certain features won’t work on an iPhone purchased in China, regardless of your location or settings.
Can anyone confirm this?
If true, that’s frustrating. I had the option of buying my devices in China, where I live most of the time, or the US, where I spend Summers and Christmas, and went for China on my iPhone for the sim-card and for the iPad Mini and Pro for convenience. If I knew I would get borked hardware, I would have just waited 2 months and bought them in the US.
I’m going to see if it is too late to get a full refund on the iPad Mini…it must be too late for the iPhone 16 Pro.
Can anyone confirm this?
If true, that’s frustrating. I had the option of buying my devices in China, where I live most of the time, or the US, where I spend Summers and Christmas, and went for China on my iPhone for the sim-card and for the iPad Mini and Pro for convenience. If I knew I would get borked hardware, I would have just waited 2 months and bought them in the US.
I’m going to see if it is too late to get a full refund on the iPad Mini…it must be too late for the iPhone 16 Pro.