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Since the Contacts app is in the phone app as well, I hope we will be able to lock the Contacts app even if someone else is using my iPhone to make a call.
I had the Contacts app locked thru using a shortcut method, but was still able to gain access to it if I’m in the Phone app just by tapping the contacts at the bottom.
 
Also need a way to lock recents, favorites and voicemail in the phone. In other words it would be nice to let someone use my iPhone to make a call only without me worrying that they see other information on my phone.
 
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I always find it strange that there are a good portion of people here that absolutely hate options and can't justify a feature if it doesn't benefit them.

Someday I hope Apple takes it a step further and allow for FaceID to quickly check before displaying sensitive notifications when the screen is already unlocked. I've gotten into the habit of enabling DND if I need to show someone something on my phone. Have had the message notification/preview embarrass me a few times along with Amazon saying my anti-chafing cream is on its way lol 🙈

I could be wrong but my gut tells me that lots of people at Apple are cheating, so none of them thought twice about implementing this feature.

If anyone finds themselves in favor of this feature, please ask yourself “wait, have I ever cheated or plotted cheating before and wished that there was a way to cover my tracks better on my phone?” A lot of people who honestly veer towards “yeah” for this question may be in favor of the hiding apps feature, but will give a million other reasons why this feature is good.

Kind of reminds of when they took away our upgradable SSDs, ram, etc…. Then they told us that it was for security, thinness, the march forward with technology… but companies like “framework” laptop showed us that Apple was gaslighting us.

Hiding and locking apps is the cheater’s dream come true. Sex also sells. It will probably be good for their business. Bravo, Apple. Bravo.
 
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I could be wrong but my gut tells me that lots of people at Apple are cheating, so none of them thought twice about implementing this feature.

If anyone finds themselves in favor of this feature, please ask yourself “wait, have I ever cheated or plotted cheating before and wished that there was a way to cover my tracks better on my phone?” A lot of people who honestly veer towards “yeah” for this question may be in favor of the hiding apps feature, but will give a million other reasons why this feature is good.

Kind of reminds of when they took away our upgradable SSDs, ram, etc…. Then they told us that it was for security, thinness, the march forward with technology… but companies like “framework” laptop showed us that Apple was gaslighting us.

Hiding and locking apps is the cheaters dream come true. Sex also sells. It will probably be good for their business. Bravo, Apple. Bravo.
lmao go to therapy
 
I could be wrong but my gut tells me that lots of people at Apple are cheating, so none of them thought twice about implementing this feature.

If anyone finds themselves in favor of this feature, please ask yourself “wait, have I ever cheated or plotted cheating before and wished that there was a way to cover my tracks better on my phone?” A lot of people who honestly veer towards “yeah” for this question may be in favor of the hiding apps feature, but will give a million other reasons why this feature is good.

Kind of reminds of when they took away our upgradable SSDs, ram, etc…. Then they told us that it was for security, thinness, the march forward with technology… but companies like “framework” laptop showed us that Apple was gaslighting us.

Hiding and locking apps is the cheater’s dream come true. Sex also sells. It will probably be good for their business. Bravo, Apple. Bravo.
Yeah your gut is not in the right place. Do you feel this way about incognito mode too? I have plenty of friends/family that hand their kids their phone to play with so that's an added benefit. Easily lock out apps that have access to purchase things without authentication (amazon, ride share, food delivery, work apps, etc)

Cheating and lying have existed since before smartphones and will continue to live on unfortunately. Everyone's better off knowing the telling signs and having a therapist on hand vs wondering what someone is hiding digitally constantly.

Personally for me I'm a professional by day and enjoy recreational/psilocybin activities at night as well as music events and many other things so its nice having the choice to keep things locked away.

One example is that I was on a work trip last year and driving. I needed my colleague to get the address to the job site so I handed him my phone since it was connected to CarPlay to get the address from a Teams message. He's an Android user and wasn't sure how to navigate and ended up on the last thing I had open in Safari which wasn't work appropriate lol. We have a good relationship so it wasn't THAT weird but still embarrassing. Definitely will require Face ID for Safari once I upgrade to iOS 18.
 
Yeah your gut is not in the right place. Do you feel this way about incognito mode too? I have plenty of friends/family that hand their kids their phone to play with so that's an added benefit. Easily lock out apps that have access to purchase things without authentication (amazon, ride share, food delivery, work apps, etc)

Cheating and lying have existed since before smartphones and will continue to live on unfortunately. Everyone's better off knowing the telling signs and having a therapist on hand vs wondering what someone is hiding digitally constantly.

Personally for me I'm a professional by day and enjoy recreational/psilocybin activities at night as well as music events and many other things so its nice having the choice to keep things locked away.

One example is that I was on a work trip last year and driving. I needed my colleague to get the address to the job site so I handed him my phone since it was connected to CarPlay to get the address from a Teams message. He's an Android user and wasn't sure how to navigate and ended up on the last thing I had open in Safari which wasn't work appropriate lol. We have a good relationship so it wasn't THAT weird but still embarrassing. Definitely will require Face ID for Safari once I upgrade to iOS 18.
Well, you can all pan me on here if you’d like, but a simple google search of [iOS18 cheaters] or [iOS18 cheating] will illustrate that I am far from alone in what gut is telling me. Hundreds of news outlets are writing about this—I actually had no idea about this, though.

I saw the new feature and first thought “hmmm cheaters dream come true”, posted about it here, got laughed at and eaten alive (I laugh at myself too, though😂) by all the AppleFan bois here….. and then turned away from this board with my tail between my legs, sauntered over to google and thought, I wonder what other people think about this too.

I performed the above searches only to find that 100s of articles from news agencies across the ideological spectrum also agree with “my gut”…. So I think that now we just wait and see what happens.

Hypothetically, what does everyone think that Apple would do, though, if they developed a new feature that could boost their business (hiding and locking apps in the name of security) but at the same time with that new feature potentially encourage more cheating(sex sells) more porn watching and hiding unscrupulous things on the phone? I think that if they decided that the potential new feature were good for their business and could be marketed as “improved security”, they wouldn’t care if it encouraged cheating and hiding unscrupulous things on the phone—they would be salivating and focused on the increased business that the feature could offer. I am freedom loving person, but if this new feature has nothing to do with hiding sex and hook-apps, why hasn’t Apple put in safeguards to the feature so one CAN’T hide Grindr or Tinder? who actually in their heart of hearts thinks that more porn, more hook-apps and the ability to hide and lock these things on the phone will be something good for humankind?

I hope that everyone can see through the BS that Apple spins out there and understand that their religion is money and profit, and they don’t always care if their technology degrades humanity and inches us towards technological dystopia. If they are making more money, that’s what they care about. Sometimes it is people like you, but sometimes it people like me who are the only ones who “see.”

Okay, I’m heading back to therapy now. 😘
 
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Well, you can all pan me on here if you’d like, but a simple google search of [iOS18 cheaters] or [iOS18 cheating] will illustrate that I am far from alone in what gut is telling me. Hundreds of news outlets are writing about this—I actually had no idea about this, though.

I saw the new feature and first thought “hmmm cheaters dream come true”, posted about it here, got laughed at and eaten alive (I laugh at myself too, though😂) by all the AppleFan bois here….. and then turned away from this board with my tail between my legs, sauntered over to google and thought, I wonder what other people think about this too.

I performed the above searches only to find that 100s of articles from news agencies across the ideological spectrum also agree with “my gut”…. So I think that now we just wait and see what happens.

Hypothetically, what does everyone think that Apple would do, though, if they developed a new feature that could boost their business (hiding and locking apps in the name of security) but at the same time with that new feature potentially encourage more cheating(sex sells) more porn watching and hiding unscrupulous things on the phone? I think that if they decided that the potential new feature were good for their business and could be marketed as “improved security”, they wouldn’t care if it encouraged cheating and hiding unscrupulous things on the phone—they would be salivating and focused on the increased business that the feature could offer. I am freedom loving person, but if this new feature has nothing to do with hiding sex and hook-apps, why hasn’t Apple put in safeguards to the feature so one CAN’T hide Grindr or Tinder? who actually in their heart of hearts thinks that more porn, more hook-apps and the ability to hide and lock these things on the phone will be something good for humankind?

I hope that everyone can see through the BS that Apple spins out there and understand that their religion is money and profit, and they don’t always care if their technology degrades humanity and inches us towards technological dystopia. If they are making more money, that’s what they care about. Sometimes it is people like you, but sometimes it people like me who are the only ones who “see.”

Okay, I’m heading back to therapy now. 😘
You remind me of one of my best friends that comes from a hardcore LDS background lol. I do enjoy reading your take don't feel like you need to leave with your tail between your legs. Fun part about forums are we think we're all right.

Funny you mentioned Grindr, that app and a few others lets you change the icon so its not so obvious (uh errr..so I've heard). Tinder on the web has a "business" mode you can quickly click on and it looks like you're working on an Excel doc or something. What I'm trying to say is that the dev's know their customer base lol and so does Apple.

You're not wrong that Apple's religion is money and profit though from a technology advancement perspective we all win (most times). You see where that's gotten Intel and NVidia.

If you were truly a freedom loving person as you say, this wouldn't have your attention the way it does. Don't let the media outlets and numbers completely sway your opinion. Most things online play on fear and are done to generate clicks. I googled "iPhone spying on me" and "iPhone explosion" and guess what? Tons of media stories that are misusing the trigger word for clicks. Could you imagine how Y2K would have been if the internet was more accessible at that time?
 
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Well, you can all pan me on here if you’d like, but a simple google search of [iOS18 cheaters] or [iOS18 cheating] will illustrate that I am far from alone in what gut is telling me. Hundreds of news outlets are writing about this—I actually had no idea about this, though.

I saw the new feature and first thought “hmmm cheaters dream come true”, posted about it here, got laughed at and eaten alive (I laugh at myself too, though😂) by all the AppleFan bois here….. and then turned away from this board with my tail between my legs, sauntered over to google and thought, I wonder what other people think about this too.

I performed the above searches only to find that 100s of articles from news agencies across the ideological spectrum also agree with “my gut”…. So I think that now we just wait and see what happens.

Hypothetically, what does everyone think that Apple would do, though, if they developed a new feature that could boost their business (hiding and locking apps in the name of security) but at the same time with that new feature potentially encourage more cheating(sex sells) more porn watching and hiding unscrupulous things on the phone? I think that if they decided that the potential new feature were good for their business and could be marketed as “improved security”, they wouldn’t care if it encouraged cheating and hiding unscrupulous things on the phone—they would be salivating and focused on the increased business that the feature could offer. I am freedom loving person, but if this new feature has nothing to do with hiding sex and hook-apps, why hasn’t Apple put in safeguards to the feature so one CAN’T hide Grindr or Tinder? who actually in their heart of hearts thinks that more porn, more hook-apps and the ability to hide and lock these things on the phone will be something good for humankind?

I hope that everyone can see through the BS that Apple spins out there and understand that their religion is money and profit, and they don’t always care if their technology degrades humanity and inches us towards technological dystopia. If they are making more money, that’s what they care about. Sometimes it is people like you, but sometimes it people like me who are the only ones who “see.”

Okay, I’m heading back to therapy now. 😘
It’s none of your business what someone else is doing on THEIR phone. Your weird obsession with it alone is justification for this feature. You are not entitled to the contents of someone else’s phone, ever.
 
It’s none of your business what someone else is doing on THEIR phone. Your weird obsession with it alone is justification for this feature. You are not entitled to the contents of someone else’s phone, ever.
You are right—not unless someone gives me permission.
and even then, some people don’t have anything that they need to hide or want to keep out of plain view and other people do. The people who need/want to hide something will love this feature. That’s why it’s called the “hide apps” feature.😂

Everybody, married couples, partners, have a private life, but I think that many therapists would agree that transparency and openness in some areas of human interaction can help build trust between individuals, entities, countries, etc…. Trust between oneself and the other. If two people agree to be exclusive and agree not to download hook up apps, this feature seems to make it easier and even tempting to break that promise. This new feature may or may not change an aspect of that human trust dynamic regarding hook up apps.

Personally, I think that there is a difference between hiding a feeling inside the recesses of my mind and hiding a sex app on my phone to stand at the doorway of cheating. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong, though. I think that the developers at Apple might not perceive a difference between hiding something on the phone vs. the recesses of one’s mind. I think that if one views the phone as an extension of one’s mind, or the same as the mind, then hiding sex apps to stand at the doorway of cheating is the same as a philanderous thought— And I disagree with Jesus the almighty here: everyone is entitled to their own private philanderous thoughts. But I just don’t think that is the same thing as hiding a sex app to stand (or walk through) the doorway of cheating. That’s my personal opinion.

One thing for sure, this is a major change in the paradigm of iOS, and it may affect the way we live.
 
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I’m reading about this more, it seems that Apple actually did leave places in the system for someone to peep whether or not their partner downloaded grindr or Tinder in the settings area of the phone. So maybe they did think about this deeply when designing it. Still a way for the peepers to catch the cheaters. 😂 lol
I spoke too soon.

I know so many people, good people, trusting people who caught their partners this way…. And because they peeped, they probably saved themselves from venereal disease…. So I don‘t judge those peepers.

Bravo Apple! 😉
 
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anyway to find the list of apps that you have locked via this method? not talking about hiding the app, but the ones locked with pressing and holding down the app to get the pop up menu and locking the app. In settings, under faceid > other apps, it only lists the apps that have requested to use faceid to login…the hidden app folder shows nothing cause i have no hidden apps just locked apps…
 
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