Oh you're 100% right. But won't all the logging not be gone until RC? I suspect we should see some good numbers on the 18.0 B8, but maybe still a bit of drain from beta logging stuff.
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Either in a few minutes or probably tomorrow. Not the first time they release the watchOS 11 beta later during this cycle.
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I got ya. Thanks, I only hoped on the watchOS beta in beta 6 so I haven't been following along the entire beta cycle for watchOS.
It should be out for iOS 18.0 shortly. With the latest beta there was a three hour gap between the two.
The RC never comes out before the iPhone event because it will contain code identifying features of the new phones that Apple wants to keep under wraps until they unveil them.
I see no reason why that would change this year.
Assuming that that remains the case, I would expect to see the RC about 3 PM EDT on Monday, September 9th
Not to mention, Apple Intelligence is pushing the processors like nothing else has ever done. So having more heat than in the past is to be expected, especially as they are continuing to tune it.
And you were, at the time you posted this, about 2 hours after installing the beta. If it is still there to that extent tomorrow, we can talk.
PB's for iOS/iPadOS 18 and MacOS 15 beta 8 showed up about 15 mins ago.
Not likely, it will be another 2 weeks (9/9) to beta 4 because of Labor Day next week. Also given the same slower pace another 2 weeks after that until beta 5 (9/23) which might be the first PB offering as a guess, unless Apple decides to hold off altogether with 18.1 cycle.
WatchOS beta 7 has been fine minus battery. Wonder if we get beta 8 maybe tomorrow or if we are already done.
It’ll go weekly as soon as 18.0 is released and likely as soon as 18.0 RC is out. I would also not be terribly shocked if it went weekly beginning next Wednesday.
Especially when Apple wants iOS 18.1 out mid to end of October.
How do we know that, since 18.1 is a unique point release to introduce AI for hardware qualified hardware for devs across iOS/iPadOS/MacOS?
MacRumors is only comparing 18.1 to previous years, but it’s not the same goal of a follow up to 18.0 because it discriminates by hardware requirements and brand new functionality?
reference from macrumors spectulation
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With iOS 18.0 set for a release in September, the expectation is that iOS 18.1 and these features will be released in October. Here’s a timeline of when Apple has released previous point-one updates:
- iOS 17.1: October 25, 2023
- iOS 16.1: October 24, 2022
- iOS 15.1: October 25, 2021
- iOS 14.1: October 20, 2020
That is a guess, or expectation. We know AI will be in beta for some time as stuff gets added, and there is supposely a first public beta available after the iPhone show. But this isn’t just related to only iPhones, it’s across their product lines. So when you say Apple wants to have it out by mid to end of October, who know with this weird 18.0 vs 18.1 pairing? We know something follows 18.0 but what exactly?
So I know this is a little old, but I have been thinking about this. How is MR consider a source for Apple prediction? They don’t have many if any original predictions. Just got me thinking, where does this list come get that data from.Per AppleTrack (https://appletrack.com/leaderboard/), for 2022 Gurman was more like 86%. I don’t think that’s changed much and anecdotally (meaning I ’haven't tallied up his results), I’d say he’s actually been closer to 90-95% accurate.
But he did miss on the September 10th thing. He may have been given bad info (whether inadvertent by the the leaker or a plant by Apple security), or purposely gave the wrong date to protect someone. But he’s been pretty good otherwise.
Edit: I am not saying MR isn’t a fantastic place to get News and predictions from, but they just don’t produce any original predictions that I know of.
For data, it's easy to track person's predictions and what actually happens. Anyone can do it by following their Twitter or newsletters.
For predictions, MR are journalists, not analysts. There's a big difference.
Yeah, I don't know. Probably because MR has "Rumors" in their name, lol.
The letter has really nothing to do with it. While it is most common to get the builds on the 1st compile (a) the closer to release, it is not a requirement or "all release builds". As stated a lot in these forums, that letter is simply a reference to how many "tries" or compiles they did before releasing a particular build. Here are at least two examples. Both went to release after these builds:
iOS 16.2 Beta 4 (Thursday 12-1-22)
20C5058d
iOS 16.3 Beta 2 (Tuesday 1-10-23)
20D5035i