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So what are the percentages for getting it tomorrow and if not Monday? Is it completely out for a tomorrow release? I just have a hard time believing Apple leaves a public release without a beta for entire holiday break.
A release tomorrow is possible. I believe I do recall Apple releasing betas on Fridays before, so I think it’s possible and I wouldn’t rule it out. But Monday releases are definitely more common. I’m guessing we’ll get an iOS 18.3 beta before holiday break.
 
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A release tomorrow is possible. I believe I do recall Apple releasing betas on Fridays before, so I think it’s possible and I wouldn’t rule it out. But Monday releases are definitely more common. I’m guessing we’ll get an iOS 18.3 beta before holiday break.

I agree with all of this.
Thanks! I would think they get it out before the holiday break. Seeing as AI is so important, pushing it back past the holiday break seems rather unlikely.
 
I think that RC1 RC2 and Public being three builds shows that Apple has been pretty heads down on 18.2. My guess would be 18.3 beta 1 next week and then probably nothing till week of the 5th beta wise. Outside chance of 18.2.1 maybe late next week. Most likely we won't see anything week of the 23rd and 30th.
 
I think that RC1 RC2 and Public being three builds shows that Apple has been pretty heads down on 18.2. My guess would be 18.3 beta 1 next week and then probably nothing till week of the 5th beta wise. Outside chance of 18.2.1 maybe late next week. Most likely we won't see anything week of the 23rd and 30th.
Still think there is a small chance for a dev seed on Friday. Give us all something to look at during the weekend as well as provide feedback earlier before the two week break that most take. :)
 
Still think there is a small chance for a dev seed on Friday. Give us all something to look at during the weekend as well as provide feedback earlier before the two week break that most take. :)
Yeah, that sounds plausible. I dont think they want to leave us without a beta during the holidays and if they give us a beta 1, they better make sure its "semi stable". Release ASAP and amend if something very bad occurs, then leave it cooking and come back in January with a follow-up.
 
A release tomorrow is possible. I believe I do recall Apple releasing betas on Fridays before, so I think it’s possible and I wouldn’t rule it out. But Monday releases are definitely more common. I’m guessing we’ll get an iOS 18.3 beta before holiday break.
Kal. Hope you and yours are well. Been out of action for a while. If I don't get the opportunity nearer Christmas, wishing you and yours a Happy Christmas, and a Healthy Happy and Prosperous New Year. if you don't celebrate Christmas then wishing you the same for whatever festivity you wish.
 
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Yeah, that sounds plausible. I dont think they want to leave us without a beta during the holidays and if they give us a beta 1, they better make sure its "semi stable". Release ASAP and amend if something very bad occurs, then leave it cooking and come back in January with a follow-up.
I'd say there's a remote chance today (say 10-15%) but more likely Monday (80%). Latest possible would be Tuesday (5-10%)
 
Does anyone know what is expected in 18.3? Did I imagine it or did one of the rumour people say that 18.4 stuff might drop earlier, or are we still expecting 18.3 to be fairly minor with 18.4 having more new stuff?
 
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Does anyone know what is expected in 18.3? Did I imagine it or did one of the rumour people say that 18.4 stuff might drop earlier, or are we still expecting 18.3 to be fairly minor with 18.4 having more new stuff?
Most likely 18.3 minor update and 18.4 in April big one
 
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Does anyone know what is expected in 18.3? Did I imagine it or did one of the rumour people say that 18.4 stuff might drop earlier, or are we still expecting 18.3 to be fairly minor with 18.4 having more new stuff?
We just don’t know, 18.3 is an example of secrecy with no leaks getting out. Just because they originally said in the footnote from the following:
Additional features and languages will be available in April, with more languages and platforms coming over the course of the year. Languages supported in 2025 include Chinese, English (India, Singapore), French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Spanish, and Vietnamese.
doesn’t imply that 18.3 is just a bug fix, IMHO that is wasting couple of months time they could be trying to implement features and other language support by April. Looking at how many months 18.1 ran on top of 18.0, it clearly showed Apple struggling to achieve multiple goals to meet committed functionality launches. :oops:
 
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We just don’t know, 18.3 is an example of secrecy with no leaks getting out. Just because they originally said in the footnote the following:

doesn’t imply that 18.3 is just a bug fix, IMHO that is wasting couple of months time they could be trying to implement features and other language support by April. Looking at how many months 18.1 ran on top of 18.0, it clearly showed Apple struggling to achieve multiple goals to meet committed functionality launches. :oops:
Implementing other languages is done by training the AI in that language, but Apple doesn't have as much data as Meta and Google to train it on. That's probably why it takes so long. And that's why Meta and Google have been so quick to release their own AI.
 
Kal. Hope you and yours are well. Been out of action for a while. If I don't get the opportunity nearer Christmas, wishing you and yours a Happy Christmas, and a Healthy Happy and Prosperous New Year. if you don't celebrate Christmas then wishing you the same for whatever festivity you wish.
I’ve been doing great, I hope you’ve been doing good as well. 👍🏻. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! 👍🏻
 
We just don’t know, 18.3 is an example of secrecy with no leaks getting out. Just because they originally said in the footnote from the following:

doesn’t imply that 18.3 is just a bug fix, IMHO that is wasting couple of months time they could be trying to implement features and other language support by April. Looking at how many months 18.1 ran on top of 18.0, it clearly showed Apple struggling to achieve multiple goals to meet committed functionality launches. :oops:
Yeah, I’m totally with you on that. I think 18.3 could be bigger than some people are expecting. We just simply don’t know what new features it will add, but I’m convinced it likely will include new features and improvements. Apple definitely seems to be trying to roll out as much as quickly as possible, probably trying to also make it easier to develop iOS 19 if the rumors of iOS 18 slowing down iOS 19 development are true. I’m guessing in that case they would want to get as many features out as quickly as possible that way they can dedicate more resources towards 19. But perhaps I’m wrong. 👍🏻
 
Does anyone know what is expected in 18.3? Did I imagine it or did one of the rumour people say that 18.4 stuff might drop earlier, or are we still expecting 18.3 to be fairly minor with 18.4 having more new stuff?

You are not imagining it. Mark Gurman reported about a month ago that some stuff originally slated for 18.4 might be pushed up. We’ll see.
 
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