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iOS 18 Speculation Thread
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None so far, still searching “new” things without success
I’m taking a wild guess (fueled by hopes and dreams) and calling it now: iOS 18.4 – as well as whatever other updates come for iOS 18 – will now all be releases more akin to Snow Leopard ones than not.
Obviously per an Apple spokesperson the meat of it is now coming within ‘the coming year’. As such, they’ll likely take their time actually laying the groundwork FIRST, to THEN have Siri move “through the system in concert with you” as they envisioned it.
Willing to eat crow on the lack of new features though. This was a guess after all.
Obviously per an Apple spokesperson the meat of it is now coming within ‘the coming year’. As such, they’ll likely take their time actually laying the groundwork FIRST, to THEN have Siri move “through the system in concert with you” as they envisioned it.
Willing to eat crow on the lack of new features though. This was a guess after all.
I am sure most of the updates are Siri/AI language/region related right now. For those in America, we are probably not going to get much.
I did find per 9to5 that there were some small UI improvements to the TV app.
9to5mac.com
I did find per 9to5 that there were some small UI improvements to the TV app.
Apple TV app gets three small, yet useful updates in iOS 18.4 - 9to5Mac
iOS 18.4 and tvOS 18.4 include some small, but handy updates to the Apple TV app to make key tools and information more prominent.
9to5mac.com
So it looks like Apple is removing references to personal context on their iOS 18 page. So yeah, it’s definitely not coming until iOS 19.
While it’s true they edited the part about Siri on the iOS 18 page, they didn’t remove the part right at the top referencing personal context. And the Apple Intelligence page still says the features are currently unavailable, but will be available software update in “coming months”. I don’t think Apple has completely ruled out dropping the features in a later iOS 18 update. We’ll see. I’m definitely not expecting the features in 18.4, and probably not 18.5, but I could see potential for an 18.6 or 18.7 release. We still don’t have any hard evidence either way. I think both are equally possible at this point until we have more information…
The best case scenario is that these features come in the summer. But I just don’t see them testing this out on iOS 18 at the same time as developing iOS 19. Not only could that spread their development resources thin, but also debugging resources. It would be a lot more efficient for their engineering team to debug one major version of iOS at a time.
They also might use it as an opportunity to drive iOS 19 upgrades.
Most likely. It doesn't make sense splitting resources on iOS 18 if they're working on a massive revamp for iOS 19. They will need most of their focus there.
I think that the redesign that was leaked out of nowhere is something they had planned to add little by little in the next versions, but with the disaster that the artificial intelligence issue is being, they will have decided to advance a large part of it for iOS 19 and thus not seem like a version devoid of new features. Because if we focus on the issue of artificial intelligence, the new features that iOS 19 could have are the ones they did not manage to make it to iOS 18.
Wait, this makes a lot of sense. Apple Intelligence = iOS 6 Apple Maps, iOS 19 = iOS 7.
I don’t think they’d have to split development resources to do that. They could develop the features, perhaps roll them out in a later version of 18 first like 18.6, and then roll it into 19 before it releases to the public in September-November. I don’t know what they’ll do, none of us do, but at this point, we can’t write it off as a possibility.
Some of this timeline boils down to legal issues. Apple pulled the ads, but remember that their marketing mentioning "more personal Siri" said iPhone 16 by name but never mentioned what version of iOS. As long as those features are available eventually on an iPhone 16, even one running iOS 19, Apple will be delivering what they promised.
That doesn't mean more personal Siri can't be in iOS 18 too. The question is: Are they open to any class action based on the WWDC announcement of iOS 18? A lawsuit doesn't have to really be valid to get a settlement. It just needs to get enough attention (and press) to make Apple want to pay people off and shut them up.
iOS 19 will definitely be the priority this summer and if the design changes are as big as rumored, I don't expect the Siri improvements until 19.2 at the earliest. iOS 18.0 was mostly a cosmetic upgrade and did far less to tweak UI/UX than Gurman is anticipating for iOS 19.0.
If Apple thinks they are still in legal trouble once more personal Siri is in iOS 19, I could see it getting backported to iOS 18.7 (18.8?) a couple months later. However, it would only be a bare minimum effort to satisfy legal obligations and might be less functional. I don't think there will be any reason to stay on the iOS 18 cycle once iOS 19 is available (unless, of course, they really botch this updated UI/UX).
That doesn't mean more personal Siri can't be in iOS 18 too. The question is: Are they open to any class action based on the WWDC announcement of iOS 18? A lawsuit doesn't have to really be valid to get a settlement. It just needs to get enough attention (and press) to make Apple want to pay people off and shut them up.
iOS 19 will definitely be the priority this summer and if the design changes are as big as rumored, I don't expect the Siri improvements until 19.2 at the earliest. iOS 18.0 was mostly a cosmetic upgrade and did far less to tweak UI/UX than Gurman is anticipating for iOS 19.0.
If Apple thinks they are still in legal trouble once more personal Siri is in iOS 19, I could see it getting backported to iOS 18.7 (18.8?) a couple months later. However, it would only be a bare minimum effort to satisfy legal obligations and might be less functional. I don't think there will be any reason to stay on the iOS 18 cycle once iOS 19 is available (unless, of course, they really botch this updated UI/UX).
The deleted advertisement only gave them "the next year" from "Fall 2024", if the feature is delayed to 2026 then they will have missed the given timeline. They still technically have a chance to meet it with early iOS 19 versions.
The note at the bottom of the page still says “in coming months”. If they had completely written off an iOS 18 release, I would think they would change that as well. And one would also think they would specifically say iOS 19, but they didn’t do that either.
Keep in mind that they can't put iOS 19 because it hasn't been announced.