Many, if not most developers are basing their software on the new ios4 platform so it shouldn't make a difference to them if their apps were to be used on an ipad with this software or on the iphone or itouch
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iOS 4.X for iPad already here
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ipad is faster. the a4 isnt under clocked like the iphone 4. ram isnt the only thing. anyway i cant wait for multitasking. back rounder doesnt work that good on the ipad.
iPad 3.2 is the latest software available, to consumers and developers alike. It is not currently possible to deploy iPad apps that target iOS versions exceeding 3.2.
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Then you must not be a member of the iOS beta program, because all the major versions have had beta releases first.
Apple said to expect 4.0 for the iPad later this year, so it wouldn't be too crazy to expect Apple to drop it to the public on Wednesday. I believe its a bit overdue to be honest, my iPad has fallen to the wayside in the shadow of my iPhone 4.
You are forgetting that apps that are for iPad only would need to be adjusted for the ios 4 to allow multi-tasking and fast switching. Plus, there are some native apps that are not same as that on the iphone 4. So, beta testings are still required.
I suspect Apple is stilling working on ipad ios 4.1. 4.1 for iphone 4 might come out this Wednes. and 4.1 for iPad may come out in Oct. or Nov.
In the past, Apple has always given developers two or more weeks with any new OS release for the iPhone.
The reason they do this is so that developers can check, and make modifications to ensure that their Apps will work with the new OS.
I would be really surprised if this wasn't the case for iOS 4.x for the iPad.
You need to remember there are a ~lot~ of features in iOS 3.2 that are not in iOS 4. Things like Popover's, a bunch of Text handling API's, and a handful of graphics API's. You can't test these things in the current version of iOS 4 as they aren't in the OS yet.
I'm hoping that Apple announces iPad iOS 4 availability for developers at the event. That will start the clock ticking for the general release.
The reason they do this is so that developers can check, and make modifications to ensure that their Apps will work with the new OS.
I would be really surprised if this wasn't the case for iOS 4.x for the iPad.
You need to remember there are a ~lot~ of features in iOS 3.2 that are not in iOS 4. Things like Popover's, a bunch of Text handling API's, and a handful of graphics API's. You can't test these things in the current version of iOS 4 as they aren't in the OS yet.
I'm hoping that Apple announces iPad iOS 4 availability for developers at the event. That will start the clock ticking for the general release.
I understand how RAM works; I have been building and maintaining PCs for friends, family and clients for years. What I am still waiting for from these people is an answer to why they think the iPad runs out of RAM. Predictably, that seems to have stumped them. I'd also like to know what affect they think iOS 4 will have on the iPad. We already know from the iPhone 3G the detrimental affect that iOS 4 can have on a underspecced device. Will the iPad suffer the same fate because of its RAM?
RAM isn't the only bottleneck in a device. The iPhone 3G has a much older processor and significantly less RAM than the iPad or iPhone 4. Both iPad and iPhone 4 have the A4 processor and 256MB+ of RAM (512MB for iPhone 4). Not to mention, newer graphics chipsets and other updated components inside the device.
Excellent point, SnowLeopard2008!
I would only add that iOS4 ran superbly on my old 3GS, and once installed, really made it feel like a new device. I'm not the only one who has experienced this...
The 3GS has 256mb like iPad and a processor about 40% less powerful.
I would only add that iOS4 ran superbly on my old 3GS, and once installed, really made it feel like a new device. I'm not the only one who has experienced this...
The 3GS has 256mb like iPad and a processor about 40% less powerful.
I'm still waiting for an answer as to why the iPad runs out of RAM. This is the third time I've asked now.
I think most people complaining about RAM is thinking of Safari having to reload pages when you switch tabs. They think the pages need to be refreshed because iPad runs out of RAM to hold the cache. However, I think this is a problem with the way Safari is coded, because I understand AtomicBrowser and other alternative web browses don't have this problem.
Yes, actually they do, i've tried it. all i know is it needs to end, because its ridiculous, feels like 1997.
AtomicBrowser simply renders web pages in a different and smarter way.
If you open a lot of tabs, you can clearly see that the app renders only the visible part of the page. When you scroll, it has to render immediately the new visible part.
It's a trick, but if you open too much tabs, AtomicBrowser refresh pages too.
I hope Apple will rewrite Safari to be smarter like Atomic.
If you open a lot of tabs, you can clearly see that the app renders only the visible part of the page. When you scroll, it has to render immediately the new visible part.
It's a trick, but if you open too much tabs, AtomicBrowser refresh pages too.
I hope Apple will rewrite Safari to be smarter like Atomic.
That's what *I* think. Personally, I haven't seen any other app run out of RAM other than the Safari page refreshing. Nor have I heard of any other specific examples of apps that constantly run out of RAM on the iPad. As you've seen, when you press people for examples, no one seems to come up with one.
Oh, and another "complaint" people often voice is that once iOS4 and multitasking hit the iPad, *then* it will not have enough RAM. But that's just borrowing trouble. Since no one has actually seen an iPad trying to multitask under iOS4, who knows how that will go. For all we know, Apple could get it right and it will work smoothly without any problem. Or it could run out of RAM. But no point discussing it, really, until we actually have it.
I'd agree that something is odd/buggy with Safari. With 3.2.2, after a complete reboot I can open up a bunch of pages and swap between them with no problems. However after using the iPad (and different Apps) for a while it starts having to refresh pages. If I was to speculate, it appears that iOS 3.2 throws web pages out of memory in preference to anything else.
How does iOS 4 deal with low memory situations? Unfortunately I don't have any devices to test it with. What happens on an iPhone4 if you play a big game (eg. We Rule, Nova, Real Racing) for a while? Do web pages have to refresh afterwards? How about iOS4 on a 3GS?
"We Rule" blows a message telling the user to restart "this device" as it has run out of RAM. - The dev CAN optimise the app; however, it's like trying to run Bad Company 2 on a ATI Radeon x1500 - you can only optimise so much before the reduction on quality or graphics become apparent to the user.
N.O.V.A has had problems with crashing that could be do to the lack of RAM.
And to all the people who say: "there's not enough RAM in the iPad for iOS4" - my iPod touch 3rd gen runs fine - with 254mb of RAM and so does my iPod Touch 2g with virtual memory enabled - Apple can easily only apply this to specific apps - like Safari.
With iOS 3 on my old 3GS it was impossible to get Safari to reload any tabs. However, just after updating to iOS 4, I managed to get Safari to reload some tabs, for the first time ever. It seemed that iOS 4 was consuming more RAM, which is what makes me think it doesn't bode well for the iPad, unless Apple are using this delay to really optimise the code for the 256MB RAM.
My two pence, then I'm out...
1. The iPhone 3G only had 128mb of ram. The 3GS has 256mb and seems to have held up quite well against ios 4.
2. The iPads CPU runs faster than the iPhone 4, therefore items will be going in and out of RAM at a faster speed, meaning less time devoted to each task.
3. What on earth are you doing to be getting so many out of memory popups? I have only ever had ONE, and that was in an app that the dev knew had a memory leak and patched.
In regards to iOS4, I think we will see it tomorrow, with a general release at the end of September.
1) Don't forget the version of iOS on the iPad is different to that which runs on the iPhone, so a comparison between the 2 is probably a moot point anyway.
2) A faster processor doesn't reduce the memory requirements to run the OS and apps.
3) I didn't say anything about getting out of memory popups. I simply use my iPad as normal, and the Safari tabs reload quite frequently. The Safari tabs started to reload on my 3GS after I upgraded to iOS4.
I don't think we will see iOS4 for the iPad tomorrow.
Something I'm learning about Apple is that they can only do one thing at a time. I think they've held off releasing iOS4 for iPad cos they've been working on a new OS for the Nano and Apple TV.
They probably started working on iOS4 for iPad a few weeks ago, so the Beta will be available in a couple of weeks and it'll then be released a few weeks after that.
Something I'm learning about Apple is that they can only do one thing at a time. I think they've held off releasing iOS4 for iPad cos they've been working on a new OS for the Nano and Apple TV.
They probably started working on iOS4 for iPad a few weeks ago, so the Beta will be available in a couple of weeks and it'll then be released a few weeks after that.