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Razeus

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iOS 7 is another game of catch-up (lockscreen updates for instance), instead of catch-up and surpass (i.e. innovate) adding features Android already has.

How far ahead is Android? Their next OS update is a point release, while Apple is a whole version number.
 

kenypowa

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iOS 7 is another game of catch-up (lockscreen updates for instance), instead of catch-up and surpass (i.e. innovate) adding features Android already has.

How far ahead is Android? Their next OS update is a point release, while Apple is a whole version number.

Oh god not another one of this. We don't need to be reminded everyday that sky is blue, planet is warming, and Android is superior.
 

MRU

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And android 4.3 is bringing users unified game-centre and passbook features because no other OS innovates like Android....


Oh wait.. ;)

They all refine, copy, remix, enhance features. What does it matter who did what first as long as the consumer keeps getting a better experience year upon year irrespective of what OS you are on.
 

slu

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And android 4.3 is bringing users unified game-centre and passbook features because no other OS innovates like Android....


Oh wait.. ;)

They all refine, copy, remix, enhance features. What does it matter who did what first as long as the consumer keeps getting a better experience year upon year irrespective of what OS you are on.

This. In addition, how two separate companies version their software literally tells you nothing about the comparisons between the two. That is like saying iOS is better than Android because it is on version 7 while Android is only on 4. Nothing to see here.
 

jcpb

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iOS 7 is another game of catch-up (lockscreen updates for instance), instead of catch-up and surpass (i.e. innovate) adding features Android already has.

How far ahead is Android? Their next OS update is a point release, while Apple is a whole version number.
Water is wet. News at 11.
 

Assault

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And android 4.3 is bringing users unified game-centre and passbook features because no other OS innovates like Android....


Oh wait.. ;)

They all refine, copy, remix, enhance features. What does it matter who did what first as long as the consumer keeps getting a better experience year upon year irrespective of what OS you are on.

Actually, Game Center is already here in 4.2.x. (see image below). But yeah, its about fracking time Google got this feature!
Passbook features you got backwards though. Google Wallet and several 3rd party Android apps already had the features found in Passbook, when Apple launched it in iOS6. Even with Apple backing these features, companies aren't moving very quickly to adopt online passes or Pay pass type purchases.

Still you point is valid. Every company draws "inspiration" for other companies successes. Only difference is Apple sues others for what it has been doing for years. And that is irking more and more people. I also believe it is hurting Apple more, since they have literally painted themselves into a corner (rounded one of course) in terms of being able to stray from their established hardware and mobile software designs currently in use.
 

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robjulo

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iOS 7 is another game of catch-up (lockscreen updates for instance), instead of catch-up and surpass (i.e. innovate) adding features Android already has.

How far ahead is Android? Their next OS update is a point release, while Apple is a whole version number.

I've been back and forth with both the past month but have to disagree with you on the lock screen. I found even ios6's lock screen notifications to be an improvement over androids. A ding and preview of the email to automatically light up is the best IMO.
 

onthecouchagain

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Anecdote:

Today on the train (underground), I saw a woman writing a text message on her iPhone, but then waiting until the train got above ground to actually press the send button. She typed it all out, then just had to wait, holding her phone, looking ahead out the window to see if we were approaching the end of the tunnel yet or not. And I couldn't help but feel the primitiveness of iOS.

That's all. The end.
 

DeathChill

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Anecdote:

Today on the train (underground), I saw a woman writing a text message on her iPhone, but then waiting until the train got above ground to actually press the send button. She typed it all out, then just had to wait, holding her phone, looking ahead out the window to see if we were approaching the end of the tunnel yet or not. And I couldn't help but feel the primitiveness of iOS.

That's all. The end.

I...don't understand. Why would you bother trying to send it when you know it won't go through? All you're going to do is hammer your battery for the couple of minutes it keeps trying to send it before it gives up.
 

Nermal

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Even with Apple backing these features, companies aren't moving very quickly to adopt online passes or Pay pass type purchases.

You've got that right! The "Apps for PassBook" section of the NZ App Store has a grand total of two apps in it... and neither of them work in NZ (why are they even in the NZ store?) :rolleyes:
 

Dr McKay

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I...don't understand. Why would you bother trying to send it when you know it won't go through? All you're going to do is hammer your battery for the couple of minutes it keeps trying to send it before it gives up.

I don't know, maybe he means that aspect is primitive compared to Android, which if you try to send a SMS with no service, it waits until you get some and send it automatically.
 

DeathChill

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I don't know, maybe he means that aspect is primitive compared to Android, which if you try to send a SMS with no service, it waits until you get some and send it automatically.

Ah, I was unaware. I had heard that Android will continually try and send the text until it succeeds rather then waiting.
 

2298754

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The next person to make another one of these ****** threads should get an auto perma ban.
 

Le Chiffre

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And android 4.3 is bringing users unified game-centre and passbook features because no other OS innovates like Android....


Oh wait.. ;)

They all refine, copy, remix, enhance features. What does it matter who did what first as long as the consumer keeps getting a better experience year upon year irrespective of what OS you are on.

The OP won't listen to posts that make complete sense! They are too busy posting troll bait.
 

emptyCup

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And android 4.3 is bringing users ...

It really doesn't matter what Android 4.3 or whatever has since most Android users are still stuck on version 2.x.

That said, there is plenty of room for enough types of phones to make everyone happy (I use a phone that costs me $50/yr and my minutes never expire).

Why do Android users post here? Are there no Android boards where Android users can share their enthusiasm with other Android users?
 

sk1wbw

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Anecdote:

Today on the train (underground), I saw a woman writing a text message on her iPhone, but then waiting until the train got above ground to actually press the send button. She typed it all out, then just had to wait, holding her phone, looking ahead out the window to see if we were approaching the end of the tunnel yet or not. And I couldn't help but feel the primitiveness of iOS.

That's all. The end.

Yeah, Android has better signal strength inside a tunnel.

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It really doesn't matter what Android 4.3 or whatever has since most Android users are still stuck on version 2.x.

That said, there is plenty of room for enough types of phones to make everyone happy (I use a phone that costs me $50/yr and my minutes never expire).

Why do Android users post here? Are there no Android boards where Android users can share their enthusiasm with other Android users?

Yeah, and if Android was really truly "open source" then anyone could download 4.2.2 or 4.3 and install it on their phone. Without rooting, of course. I laughed when I read that HTC wasn't going to update a one year old phone to 4.2.2. Now that's an advanced operating system, so advanced that you won't be able to update a one year old phone.
 

MRU

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Why do Android users post here? Are there no Android boards where Android users can share their enthusiasm with other Android users?

Because many Android phone users also own Macintosh hardware. The two are not mutually exclusive, and most folks are not tied to 'brand' loyalty. They can enjoy a variety of hardware and software from various vendors.

I've been here 8 years on this forum, I have in that time had every single iPhone, iPad, iPod and have bought aprox 20 different macintosh computers in the space of that time.

Does that mean I can not utilise an Android handset also ?

Seriously with a sweeping comment like that it appears that you have a very narrow minded vision of an apple / android user.

You also have the freewill of not accessing this 'sub forum' for 'alternatives to ios devices' if it offends you so much.



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Yeah, and if Android was really truly "open source" then anyone could download 4.2.2 or 4.3 and install it on their phone. Without rooting, of course. I laughed when I read that HTC wasn't going to update a one year old phone to 4.2.2. Now that's an advanced operating system, so advanced that you won't be able to update a one year old phone.

One manufacturers choice not to advance the software on a 15 month old mid-range phone any higher than it currently stands at 4.1 is irrelevant to this thread and is not indicative of Android and all the various vendors manufacturers.

Again a selective choice of circumstance / instance to make a sweeping generalised statement on the whole is rather silly.
 

Razeus

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Why do Android users post here? Are there no Android boards where Android users can share their enthusiasm with other Android users?

The difference is I'm a user of both, so how what work?
 

Zaft

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Anecdote:

Today on the train (underground), I saw a woman writing a text message on her iPhone, but then waiting until the train got above ground to actually press the send button. She typed it all out, then just had to wait, holding her phone, looking ahead out the window to see if we were approaching the end of the tunnel yet or not. And I couldn't help but feel the primitiveness of iOS.

That's all. The end.

so android waits until it has service then? i dont see how thats a big deal.
 

oaktree

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Jun 26, 2013
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Anecdote:

Today on the train (underground), I saw a woman writing a text message on her iPhone, but then waiting until the train got above ground to actually press the send button. She typed it all out, then just had to wait, holding her phone, looking ahead out the window to see if we were approaching the end of the tunnel yet or not. And I couldn't help but feel the primitiveness of iOS.

That's all. The end.

So with Android, she would have been able to send the message underground? (Not an Android user, still learning.) I thought not being able to send underground was a corollary of being out of 3G or LTE range. No??
 

sectime

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Anecdote:

Today on the train (underground), I saw a woman writing a text message on her iPhone, but then waiting until the train got above ground to actually press the send button. She typed it all out, then just had to wait, holding her phone, looking ahead out the window to see if we were approaching the end of the tunnel yet or not. And I couldn't help but feel the primitiveness of iOS.

That's all. The end.
When did Apple buy a cell company? Your post makes no sense.
 
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