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iammike1

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Oct 25, 2007
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Ok, been testing most of the day. 9.3.2 beta did not solve my extreme battery drain on my 6s. My iPad Mini is still on 9.3.1 also with the extreme battery drain...but I found MY "solution". It's a half ass solution because it's just a band-aid but maybe it will help others.

Sign out of iCloud by going into Settings --> iCloud --> Sign Out/Delete is at the very bottom.

When I do this, my phone goes back to barely any Usage time building up while in standby. If I sign back in, immediately about 50% of my standby time is counted as usage and my battery drain comes right back.

1. I am still signed into iTunes/App Store as well as iMessage and Facetime.
2. I tried signing into iCloud and turning everything off except Find My iPhone but the drain came back.

This would explain why not everyone sees the problem. Something in 9.3+ is disagreeing with something in my iCloud account is my guess...which is weird since I barely use it. I went into iCloud on the browser and deleted everything possible from it but even then, signing into iCloud brought back the drain.
 
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Black Magic

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Sep 30, 2012
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I MIGHT have stopped the battery drain...but many will not like how I did it.

I completely signed out of iCloud on the phone. Since then my phone has sat for 1.5 hours without losing a single % in battery while before I would have lost 3 or 4, sometimes more.

My fix was to lower brightness to about 65-70 and disable auto brightness. I had 2 other folks do the same and that worked for them. Didn't have an issue until 9.3.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Ok, been testing most of the day. 9.3.2 beta did not solve my extreme battery drain on my 6s. My iPad Mini is still on 9.3.1 also with the extreme battery drain...but I found MY "solution". It's a half ass solution because it's just a band-aid but maybe it will help others.

Sign out of iCloud by going into Settings --> iCloud --> Sign Out/Delete is at the very bottom.

When I do this, my phone goes back to barely any Usage time building up while in standby. If I sign back in, immediately about 50% of my standby time is counted as usage and my battery drain comes right back.

1. I am still signed into iTunes/App Store as well as iMessage and Facetime.
2. I tried signing into iCloud and turning everything off except Find My iPhone but the drain came back.

This would explain why not everyone sees the problem. Something in 9.3+ is disagreeing with something in my iCloud account is my guess...which is weird since I barely use it. I went into iCloud on the browser and deleted everything possible from it but even then, signing into iCloud brought back the drain.
And there you have it--most of the time people aren't saying they don't have an issue to imply that no one else does, they are saying that it's more likely that the issue is related to something particular in the configuration, setup, or the device itself than some widespread underlying iOS issue.
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This is actually a psychological phenomenon. I have literally watched someone experience an issue I brought up in conversation that they swore they never encountered, and then feverishly try to hide its occurrence. Even worse, after the observed occurrence, they continued to deny their device ever exhibited the behavior.

It is a way for them to feel and/or "prove" they are superior to you. I would go so far as to say it is likely a symptom of an inferiority complex of some sort.


Here is what they are really saying, in my experience and opinion:

"I have the same device/car/widget and I have NEVER had that happen. Sucks to be you... maybe you're doing something wrong or you're such a loser that your luck is just that bad. I on the other hand am clearly more loved by the universe and do things better than you. Shame you aren't like me. I know you want to be me... it's natural. Everybody does."

if the truth of that statement wasn't so sad it'd be funny.. There's a spectrum
While cases like that are most certainly around, it doesn't apply to many cases. The example above is good demonstration of that.
 

iammike1

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Oct 25, 2007
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I still see it as an underlying iOS issue though. I had zero problems with battery drain then I installed the 9.3 update and immediately my battery went to crap...continued with 9.3.1 and 9.3.2 beta 1. I changed no data on iCloud because, while it was logged in on my phone, I never use it. All my stuff is synced to Google.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with someone pointing out that they don't have a problem. What gets annoying are the people that imply, or flat out say, that you are exaggerating or imagining things because their phone is fine.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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I still see it as an underlying iOS issue though. I had zero problems with battery drain then I installed the 9.3 update and immediately my battery went to crap...continued with 9.3.1 and 9.3.2 beta 1. I changed no data on iCloud because, while it was logged in on my phone, I never use it. All my stuff is synced to Google.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with someone pointing out that they don't have a problem. What gets annoying are the people that imply, or flat out say, that you are exaggerating or imagining things because their phone is fine.
I don't think most do that. That said, it certainly does suck that weird things like that happen at times in the world of technology. Troubleshooting ends up being the only way to try to figure it out or get around even without figuring it really out, and sometimes that might be even going back to square one and starting things from scratch (as crappy and normally unnecessary as something like that should really be).
 

iammike1

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Oct 25, 2007
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I don't think most do that. That said, it certainly does suck that weird things like that happen at times in the world of technology. Troubleshooting ends up being the only way to try to figure it out or get around even without figuring it really out, and sometimes that might be even going back to square one and starting things from scratch (as crappy and normally unnecessary as something like that should really be).
Yeah, I had a "ton of fun" doing just that restoring my phone as a new phone. That was my big clue it was something in iOS though because the drain was back without installing any apps or setting up anything besides what it has you setup on the initial boot.

Oh well, I'm curious to see if this is what's causing it for a lot of people or if I'm some one off freak.
 

Galacticos

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And there you have it--most of the time people aren't saying they don't have an issue to imply that no one else does, they are saying that it's more likely that the issue is related to something particular in the configuration, setup, or the device itself than some widespread underlying iOS issue.
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While cases like that are most certainly around, it doesn't apply to many cases. The example above is good demonstration of that.

Yeah for sure. That is one bad example but the majority aren't nearly like that
[doublepost=1460183676][/doublepost]I'm still on 9.2.1 and getting 8.5 hrs usage, 23.5 hrs standby. I've been hesitant with 9.3 firstly because of safari issues and recently battery. I don't think my numbers are horrible but they were better on 8.4.1. Considering waiting for final 9.3.2 in the hope that it irons it out a bit. Any thoughts?
 

Black Magic

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Sep 30, 2012
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Yeah for sure. That is one bad example but the majority aren't nearly like that
[doublepost=1460183676][/doublepost]I'm still on 9.2.1 and getting 8.5 hrs usage, 23.5 hrs standby. I've been hesitant with 9.3 firstly because of safari issues and recently battery. I don't think my numbers are horrible but they were better on 8.4.1. Considering waiting for final 9.3.2 in the hope that it irons it out a bit. Any thoughts?

9.3.1 is really stable. I'm guessing .2 will be out within 3-4 weeks. Being that you could experience no issues, it's really something you need to decide for yourself.
 

iammike1

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2007
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O'fallon IL
So, having all other settings exactly as they were before (including not having my SIM in the phone) but signing out of iCloud fixed my extremely high usage and battery drain for sure. Phone sat for almost 8 hours, only had 11 minutes of usage, and was still at 100%.

Now, I need Apple Pay (because it's cool) and that requires that you be signed into iCloud and have the drive and pay features turned on...so that's my next test. Minimum things needed for Apple Pay to work....nope. Just stopped to look at the phone. In the last 20 minutes since enabling that, the phone is at 98%. FML Will leave it on for awhile to see if it settles down.

Anyway, here's a shot of last nights test with iCloud completely disabled but all other settings as normal.

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Black Magic

macrumors 68030
Sep 30, 2012
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So, having all other settings exactly as they were before (including not having my SIM in the phone) but signing out of iCloud fixed my extremely high usage and battery drain for sure. Phone sat for almost 8 hours, only had 11 minutes of usage, and was still at 100%.

Now, I need Apple Pay (because it's cool) and that requires that you be signed into iCloud and have the drive and pay features turned on...so that's my next test. Minimum things needed for Apple Pay to work....nope. Just stopped to look at the phone. In the last 20 minutes since enabling that, the phone is at 98%. FML Will leave it on for awhile to see if it settles down.

Anyway, here's a shot of last nights test with iCloud completely disabled but all other settings as normal.

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You really should disable auto brightness and adjust your brightness settings. Apple 9.3 added night shift which impacts the display. Being that it fixed my issue and a couple others, I'm guessing there is a link.
 

macfacts

macrumors 603
Oct 7, 2012
5,372
6,339
Cybertron
Recently Apple releases a fix that made it so night shift can not be turned on when you are on low battery. I'm guessing night shift uses a lot of battery.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
Recently Apple releases a fix that made it so night shift can not be turned on when you are on low battery. I'm guessing night shift uses a lot of battery.
Or just enough to affect the lower power savings, but not necessarily a lot. Alternatively it's possible it uses up more processing or GPU power which would tax the processor/GPU more when they are underclocked in LPM.
 

wymi

macrumors regular
Jan 14, 2012
129
5
Ok, been testing most of the day. 9.3.2 beta did not solve my extreme battery drain on my 6s. My iPad Mini is still on 9.3.1 also with the extreme battery drain...but I found MY "solution". It's a half ass solution because it's just a band-aid but maybe it will help others.

Sign out of iCloud by going into Settings --> iCloud --> Sign Out/Delete is at the very bottom.

When I do this, my phone goes back to barely any Usage time building up while in standby. If I sign back in, immediately about 50% of my standby time is counted as usage and my battery drain comes right back.

1. I am still signed into iTunes/App Store as well as iMessage and Facetime.
2. I tried signing into iCloud and turning everything off except Find My iPhone but the drain came back.

This would explain why not everyone sees the problem. Something in 9.3+ is disagreeing with something in my iCloud account is my guess...which is weird since I barely use it. I went into iCloud on the browser and deleted everything possible from it but even then, signing into iCloud brought back the drain.

Thanks, deleted my icloud account and battery is back to normal for me.
 

sbailey4

macrumors 601
Dec 5, 2011
4,571
3,253
USA
I MIGHT have stopped the battery drain...but many will not like how I did it.

I completely signed out of iCloud on the phone. Since then my phone has sat for 1.5 hours without losing a single % in battery while before I would have lost 3 or 4, sometimes more.

Ok, been testing most of the day. 9.3.2 beta did not solve my extreme battery drain on my 6s. My iPad Mini is still on 9.3.1 also with the extreme battery drain...but I found MY "solution". It's a half ass solution because it's just a band-aid but maybe it will help others.

Sign out of iCloud by going into Settings --> iCloud --> Sign Out/Delete is at the very bottom.

When I do this, my phone goes back to barely any Usage time building up while in standby. If I sign back in, immediately about 50% of my standby time is counted as usage and my battery drain comes right back.

1. I am still signed into iTunes/App Store as well as iMessage and Facetime.
2. I tried signing into iCloud and turning everything off except Find My iPhone but the drain came back.

This would explain why not everyone sees the problem. Something in 9.3+ is disagreeing with something in my iCloud account is my guess...which is weird since I barely use it. I went into iCloud on the browser and deleted everything possible from it but even then, signing into iCloud brought back the drain.

Wonder what's causing it. I just turned off everything inside iCloud but am going to leave iCloud signed in while I go get some lunch. Will report back.

It seems iCloud has been an issue even in the past. Things that seem to cause more problems are safari, photos. and drive. Perhaps the issue is with Photos trying to sync/upload or safari links trying to sync. I would try and turn off the safari switch in iCloud and take a look at your photo options. Also as far as I know iCloud drive is not required for Apple Pay so you could leave that off as well.
 

iammike1

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2007
795
46
O'fallon IL
It seems iCloud has been an issue even in the past. Things that seem to cause more problems are safari, photos. and drive. Perhaps the issue is with Photos trying to sync/upload or safari links trying to sync. I would try and turn off the safari switch in iCloud and take a look at your photo options. Also as far as I know iCloud drive is not required for Apple Pay so you could leave that off as well.

I went as far as turning absolutely everything in iCloud off...and the drain was still there. As soon as I signed off of iCloud again, phone was back to normal. I have no idea that inside iCloud is causing this but it's none of the options you can turn on and off.

As far as Apple Pay...I tried. If you try to add a card with iCloud signed out, it tells you that you have to be signed in. When I signed in and turned everything off but Apple Pay...it said Drive was required for Apple Pay.
 

stevemiller

macrumors 68020
Oct 27, 2008
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I went as far as turning absolutely everything in iCloud off...and the drain was still there. As soon as I signed off of iCloud again, phone was back to normal. I have no idea that inside iCloud is causing this but it's none of the options you can turn on and off.

As far as Apple Pay...I tried. If you try to add a card with iCloud signed out, it tells you that you have to be signed in. When I signed in and turned everything off but Apple Pay...it said Drive was required for Apple Pay.

I've seen variations on this type of iCloud behaviour.

My parents iMac literally broke the router when signed into iCloud. No devices could connect. Signed out of iCloud and it worked again. But my account didn't affect the router.

A friend tried to use iCloud on his phone (back in 2011 before background app refreshes or anything). It sucked through his entire data plan in a day.

I've regularly had features "break" forcing an iCloud sign out and settings reset but thankfully nothing as devastating. It seems like issues become associated with the accounts themselves.

Have you tried creating a separate account just to test? If somehow it's your specific account, maybe see if you can push Apple a little harder for an explanation or allow you to transfer purchases if you have any.

Sorry it's happening to you, man!
 

dyt1983

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May 6, 2014
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edit: to remove possibly personally identifying information no longer relevant to the thread.
 
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Galacticos

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Apr 5, 2016
692
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9.3.1 is really stable. I'm guessing .2 will be out within 3-4 weeks. Being that you could experience no issues, it's really something you need to decide for yourself.

This has been my experience since yesterday. Too early to tell on battery
 

Apple blogger

macrumors 6502a
Feb 28, 2013
892
177
The battery life has been pathetically bad. In iOS 9.2.1 it was amazing.. Now... Every 2 min it drops 1% if I use it.. If I don't use it.. On standby it drops around 10-20% in some hours. My phone usage is only 2-3 hrs in a day.. And by the end it's already 20%... I still remember that in iOS 9.2.1 I used to charge my phone every 2 days.. Now it's everyday... Anyone else experiencing battery life problems.

P.S. - this is software restored from iTunes and not OTA.
 

sguser

macrumors regular
Aug 12, 2010
158
138
Deleting Facebook app does wonders to battery life on 9.3.x. I've deleted mine two days ago and the battery life has improved significantly.
 
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Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Normal as 9.3. Nothing really special so far.
Just don't watch youtube using youtube app. This is a true battery killer.
 
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