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iOSUser7

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It was fine for you, but Apple likes symmetry. The balance of 5 top and 5 bottom all with equal spacing between the icons in the top and bottom rows and pretty much equal icon size.
Well, I'm not sure about that symmetry, it was 5 top and 4 bottom since almost 3 years (from iOS 7.0 to iOS 9.2.1)
Hey guys, I've just noticed something in Safari. iOS can now show additional "back" button on the right side of the status bar to the one on the left that's been there since iOS 9. Is this new? I haven't seen this before..
Nope, it's been like that since iOS 9.0.
 

C DM

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I disagree. Every single problem I have reported has not been addressed. Even the small ones.

I reported 47 bugs/issue with images/videos/full explanation/system files. I am always so excited to look in my mailbox and i have 0 response. Apple didnt even answer and didnt listen. New Betas or New Final releases did NOT fix my reported bugs. This doesn't motivate me to report new issues. Because i know Apple didnt listen this report too. Like always do. This is not right. So, they won't listen; why they releases Public Betas?
Sounds like different people have different experiences.
 
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simba4

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Sounds like we all have different phones - one thing is that:
Processor to processor or battery to battery or usage to usage is different for all of us! Visual bugs are the same for the same model..... Or at least if the backup is proper, the OTA or ...... Many things that affect thai , and thats why here comes the beta testers!
 

lagwagon

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Well, I'm not sure about that symmetry, it was 5 top and 4 bottom since almost 3 years (from iOS 7.0 to iOS 9.2.1)

And 6 top, 4 bottom would have been even worse for symmetry.

At least with 5/4, the spacing between icons was still the same between the 5 top as the 4 bottom even though top had one more icon. Adding a 6th top would have changed the spacing between icons on the top, messing that up.

*edit* I also want to point out just so I'm not called an apologist or "defending" Apple. I'm not saying "This is WHY they put it on the bottom" I'm mearly saying "This could be a likely reason as to why they chose to put it on the bottom"
 
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iOSUser7

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*edit* I also want to point out just so I'm not called an apologist or "defending" Apple. I'm not saying "This is WHY they put it on the bottom" I'm mearly saying "This could be a likely reason as to why they chose to put it on the bottom"
It's okay, I understand that and I think it's a valid reason.

Well, I guess the best way to make everyone happy is to let us customise those toogles. Some people won't even care of Night Shift so that fifth bottom toogle is useless for them.
 
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cale508

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I disagree. Every single problem I have reported has been addressed. Even the small ones.
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Well, lucky you!! It's sad that you have to word it correctly for them to understand an issue. I have always provided everything they asked me for. I know for sure that I'm "wording it correctly".
 
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I've had this bug since 9.3 beta 1 on my mini 2, on and off. I've reported it every beta, hasn't been touched. Extremely annoying when I slide to unlock and it doesn't work. Sometimes several times in a row. However I don't know how to reliably reproduce it, it doesn't always happen. Haven't heard anybody else mention they're having the same issue until now.

Actually I can get back to the lock screen by sliding but again it's intermittent and not easy to reproduce. Very annoying. I didn't notice it in the previous beta.
 

rmadera

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Well, lucky you!! It's sad that you have to word it correctly for them to understand an issue. I have always provide everything they asked me for. I know for sure that I'm "wording it correctly".
I've had mixed luck with my bug reports up until now. Most have been ignored, but for some they've asked for stackshots or sysdiagnose, which I've provided of course. But there was one issue with 8.4.1 on my iPad (which is still present) where switching orientation while the iPad is unlocking with Touch ID will show a UI bug. I filed it, and they said it should be fixed with the official release of 9.0. It wasn't. So I told them about it and they just randomly closed my bug report and filed it as a duplicate. Pretty frustrating
 

AZhappyjack

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Found the bug! Once clicking on Nigh Shift in Control Center, unable to dismiss prompt window with home button. Need to lock and unlock device. Not always, because sometimes it's enabling inmediately.

You found "the" bug? Good for you. Now, go report it to Apple. They've been looking for it, too.
 
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maxbsan

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Oct 21, 2010
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Has anybody had troubles with ApplePay in Beta 5?
I just received a new Chase card, and I wanted to add it right away, but as soon as I hit the "Add" button, I receive an error saying that the card can't be added.
I'm guessing it's an iOS bug because the error pops instantly, and I have 2 other Chase cards added.
I've already sent the report to Apple, but wanted to know if it's only me and should check with my bank, or indeed it's iOS
 

Lmftmf

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Sep 30, 2010
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I've gotten the best experiences by installing the firmware via DFU mode and setting up as new iPhone.
 

HristoBorislavov

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Installed it on my 6S TSMC.It feels so much faster and smoother than 9.2.1 !
Maybe the fastest result on geekbench.
 

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sbailey4

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Yeah, so they can most likely ignore it? Sounds like a great plan.
Yeah like they ignored:
  • Apple Watch notifications are fixed.
  • From/To overlap in DND and Night Shift schedule settings fixed.
  • Contacts search with groups issue
  • Apple pencil functionality restored
  • ibooks not displaying pdf
  • Status Bar clock bug fixed
  • Tapping news articles in the Proactive page now works
  • Does not re-lock after unlocking via Touch-ID
  • iPad Air 2 doesn't go black for a second when swiping through fullscreen apps with multitasking gestures.
  • Date & Time can no longer be set to anything earlier than Januray 1, 2001.
  • verify iCloud ID after iCloud Restore is fixed
  • error 53 issue
  • and a LOT of other issues since iOS 9.0 came into existence.
Makes you wonder why they even go to trouble releasing all these updates since they ignore the feedback and never fix anything.
 
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rmadera

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Yeah like they ignored:
  • Apple Watch notifications are fixed.
  • From/To overlap in DND and Night Shift schedule settings fixed.
  • Contacts search with groups issue
  • Apple pencil functionality restored
  • ibooks not displaying pdf
  • Status Bar clock bug fixed
  • Tapping news articles in the Proactive page now works
  • Does not re-lock after unlocking via Touch-ID
  • iPad Air 2 doesn't go black for a second when swiping through fullscreen apps with multitasking gestures.
  • Date & Time can no longer be set to anything earlier than Januray 1, 2001.
  • verify iCloud ID after iCloud Restore is fixed
  • error 53 issue
  • and a LOT of other issues since iOS 9.0 came into existence.
Makes you wonder why they even go to trouble releasing all these updates since they ignore the feedback and never fix anything.
Almost all, if not all, of the issues you mentioned were issues that they themselves introduced in this beta cycle, or otherwise bugs that were materially affecting customers in a tangible way or were popularized, so they basically couldn't ignore them. Otherwise, I really don't think they care about all these little scattered UI bugs that I and others here have mentioned.
 

moxxham

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Runs nice and smooth on my iPad Pro! Hopefully YouTube will update their app to support it quickly...its removed the ability to watch 1440p videos and save videos offline for some weird reason. Great beta though!
 

lagwagon

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Runs nice and smooth on my iPad Pro! Hopefully YouTube will update their app to support it quickly...its removed the ability to watch 1440p videos and save videos offline for some weird reason. Great beta though!

It was recently (last week) updated for the iPad Pro. So that it was properly scaled to its screen resolution. PiP and Split Screen wasn't added though (which isn't an iPad Pro specific thing anyways)

I'm able to still view 1440p from my YouTube app on my iPad Pro, it's all dependent wether the person uploading the video uploaded it as 1440p, so not every video will have the 1440p option.

Not sure about saving for offline. Never tried and don't even know the steps to try.
 

bilibug

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Almost all, if not all, of the issues you mentioned were issues that they themselves introduced in this beta cycle, or otherwise bugs that were materially affecting customers in a tangible way or were popularized, so they basically couldn't ignore them. Otherwise, I really don't think they care about all these little scattered UI bugs that I and others here have mentioned.

I'm not quite sure what your expectation is by posting the same opinion over and over again, other than to whine because you are not receiving the attention you want. No one here can call Apple for you and tell them to address RMADERA's bug reports directly. Some reports are obviously investigated and addressed, some are not. No one here has any control over that, and although no one here knows first hand what it is, I'm sure Apple has a method behind their filtering of bug submissions, and what they deem is priority to work on. They owe you nothing. If you don't like it, don't install the betas, and don't "waste your time" submitting feedback. If the time it is taking to address these issues are that big of a deal for you, switch to Android. Making the same complaint over and over again to TRY to prove your point is pointless. You don't win sympathy or support by being annoying.
 
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