It really puzzles me why Apple ignores A7 iPads, especially the rMini 2/3. Some of these issues got completely out of hand and i am tired of sending bug reports. E.g. Safari animations need a complete rewrite in my opinion. Nearly everything from typing to closing tabs stutters a bit on the latest iOS 9 beta. I am really disappointed so far. This device is capable of playing high end games, but it isn't possible to present smooth system animations?
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iOS 9 GM - The Waiting
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It really puzzles me why Apple ignores A7 iPads, especially the rMini 2/3. Some of these issues got completely out of hand and i am tired of sending bug reports. E.g. Safari animations need a complete rewrite in my opinion. Nearly everything from typing to closing tabs stutters a bit on the latest iOS 9 beta. I am really disappointed so far. This device is capable of playing high end games, but it isn't possible to present smooth system animations?
iOS 9 doesn't really even add that much that should consume processing power. The A7 iPads have suffered under iOS 8 already so I thought they might fix them in iOS 9 but apparently not :/ Its a shame. My Mini 2 jitters and lags in iOS 8 (its first update) where as my iPad 2 didn't really start jittering till iOS 7.0, but they fixed in in 7.1 and it didn't return till 8 (its 4th update). Its a worry that my iPad 2 took that many updates to get jittery, yet my Mini 2 is already on its first update.
i've yet to see performance gains over 8.4 in any of the iOS 9 betas on my iPhone 6. Dropped frames all over the place even after a fresh install. When I go back to 8.4.1 though, it's smooth as can be.
I find that really strange. Haven't even done a clean install and it does run like a charm! I absolutely love iOS 9 on it. Pity that you're not experiencing this at all...
It doesn't run like a charm mate, you must just have a high tolerance
It doesn't run like a charm mate, you must just have a high tolerance
You mean it doesn't run like a charm for YOU. Telling him that he's wrong and that how his device is running is all down to his having a high tolerance is just plain arrogant.
This is exactly why I already thought people would say something like that. But believe me, I don't have a high tolerance. It just works like a charm. There's more people saying that I have noticed. I think that, people who haven't this level of performance and all, just haven't as much luck. I do feel sorry for those people. But again, I'm not having many of the performance issues some complain about.It doesn't run like a charm mate, you must just have a high tolerance
iOS 9 beta 5 is the most stable software release on the iPhone I have ever had. In case you've missed it, I started with iOS 4. Never had the newest phone (so my argument doesn't really make sense), but now with iPhone 6 I do have. And it is more stable than iOS 8 to iOS 8.3.
@newellj Since you were earlier, thanks for pointing that out for me, to him.
I know what Apple promised, but iOS 9 on the iPod 5 feels optimistic (I own one, too) - points to you for giving it a try. I left mine on 7.1.2 and will leave it there unless there are a lot of reports of happy iPod 5 owners after the GM. :-/ Right now, the only hardware that really seems well-matched for iOS 9 is the Air 2.
It doesn't run like a charm mate, you must just have a high tolerance
Here we go with people claiming their bad experience as fact.
Maybe your expectations are unrealistic and you're expecting perfection and things to be perfect 110% of the time.
Since when does any software or computer run 100% smooth all the time. There will be hiccups here and there, always.
The people with issues is not the norm. It's funny that it is always the same people over and over in 7/7.x, 8/8.x and now 9 with issues. And it always goes like this "blarg! iOS 7 sucks! I want iOS 6 speeds!" Then iOS 8 releases and its "blarg! iOS 8 sucks! I want iOS 7 speeds!" Now it's "blarg! iOS 9 sucks! I want iOS 8 speeds!" Next will be "blarg! iOS 9.1 sucks! I want 9.0 speeds!"
The same thing happens to the same people with every single update, be it a whole new iOS version or a x.x update.
The common denominator in all this are the people themselves who moan about every little thing. Any many going out of their way to find stupid things to complain over. Like the example someone gave further up of pulling down and hiding the search bar from the home screen quickly up and down over and over. nonone does this as regular use.
At least on iPhone 6 Plus, 8.4.1 is a lot smoother than iOS 9 the latest beta. Fact ... It was supposed to be all about optimisation, but so far I don't see it ..
This is exactly why I signed up for the Note 5 test drive program. I've had iPhones since the original, and I've watched iOS go from this well-refined operating system that Apple took a lot of pride in making sure it was, for the most part, bug-free to this piss poor excuse that's littered with bugs.
The GM will be out whenever the event is over. Rumours say the event will be on the 9th of September.
As for iOS 9 itself, I'm pretty happy. Apple may still have things running in the background which they don't disable until the GM so battery life and performance may improve.
I just hope the slight delay is fixed when opening apps. It's only minor but annoying. It's like that issue on iOS 7 where the Status bar would jump into place when switching apps.
The gap between beta 5 and the GM will be around 35 days. iOS 9 GM should be pretty damn good.
As for iOS 9 itself, I'm pretty happy. Apple may still have things running in the background which they don't disable until the GM so battery life and performance may improve.
I just hope the slight delay is fixed when opening apps. It's only minor but annoying. It's like that issue on iOS 7 where the Status bar would jump into place when switching apps.
The gap between beta 5 and the GM will be around 35 days. iOS 9 GM should be pretty damn good.
This is exactly why I already thought people would say something like that. But believe me, I don't have a high tolerance. It just works like a charm. There's more people saying that I have noticed. I think that, people who haven't this level of performance and all, just haven't as much luck. I do feel sorry for those people. But again, I'm not having many of the performance issues some complain about.
iOS 9 beta 5 is the most stable software release on the iPhone I have ever had. In case you've missed it, I started with iOS 4. Never had the newest phone (so my argument doesn't really make sense), but now with iPhone 6 I do have. And it is more stable than iOS 8 to iOS 8.3.
@newellj Since you were earlier, thanks for pointing that out for me, to him.
Some things I experienced were lag when pulling up Control Center and dropped frames when tapping into an app from the multitasking view. There's also a delay when tapping an app icon (if that app isn't open in the background already).
Yeah, but this time "performance improvements over ios 8" was highlighted multiple times during the keynote and so far it has been worse.
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The thing is, even though both of my devices are A7 or better, I haven't seen anything but a declination of performance. And yes, all of these things could easily be fixed by GM, but I don't trust Apple to actually do so.
SO many problems have been sitting there, UNTOUCHED, since iOS 7 betas! Even more since iOS 8 betas! I have reported them countless times, sent footage of them, and they are simply ignored.
Can't agree more. iOS 9 is a sh*t-storm of performance issues on iPad mini 2. I don't think Apple can fix anything in time by GM. Hell, I don't even think it'll be fixed by the final version of iOS 9. We will just have to upgrade to the extremely powerful iPad Air 2 and newer devices that can handle the slop that Apple is releasing.
It is so frustrating because the issues are caused mostly by poor UI design, overly taxing effects that are unnecessary. On top of that, poor optimization. Many of the problems I see, I feel like I know some way things (UI/effects wise) could be tweaked so it wouldn't cause performance problems. I don't know the technical stuff, but it is all just glaringly inefficient, that's more what I'm getting at.
I am seriously, for the first time in many years, concerned for WTF is going on at Apple.
Will Apple, Inc. and the American stock market in general, continue with the financial implosion tomorrow (Monday)?
Will Apple, Inc. and the American stock market in general, continue with the financial implosion tomorrow (Monday)?
I literally cannot agree more. I've already mentioned these, but my iPad mini 2 even had issues on iOS 7.1.2 that were nonexistent on older devices! (iPad 2/3) Control center and Notification Center stuttered over keyboard, lock screen (lock screen lag fixed in iOS 9) open folder, etc. Rotating App Store/keyboard/slide to power off screen lagged, any pop-up Windows that appeared with a keyboard lagged, such as entering wifi password in settings, or composing a message from a share sheet. Siri animation was never totally smooth, as well as splitting a keyboard. Multitasking gestures had issues when a keyboard was open (fixed in iOS 9, thank god). Finally, simply sending messages has always been an issue due to the stupid blurring effect that goes through the keyboard and text entry box as the message sends.
Most, if not all of these were totally smooth on the iPad 2/3 because they had the blurring effect disabled. Unbelievable. And again, like you mentioned, an A7 iPad can run games in real time with absolutely stunning graphics, but can't even handle system animations? Pitiful.
Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself. If by beta 5, I am still not seeing any performance/battery life improvements on apple's latest device (iPhone 6 Plus), then apple screwed up. simple as that.
Why is it that after owning the phone almost a year, I still experience bugs like the notification centre refusing to be pulled down and the control centre bug where swiping from the home screen opens an app from the dock instead?
Why is it that the 6+ still cannot handle using safari without causing my music to stutter? Don't you think it's ridiculous that apple's flagship smartphone cannot handle web browsing and simple audio playing simultaneously?
Why is it that my iPad Air's safari ran so smoothly on iOS 7 and suddenly they added a garbage visual effect for "favourites" when I tap on the address bar in iOS 8/9 that now slows safari down significantly to the point that I can't type in a url without seeing crazy keyboard lags?
Why is it that apple deliberately cheaped out and only used 1GB of RAM in the 6+ even though it's clearly not enough? (My phone generates at least 15 Jetsam (low RAM) logs daily).
But of course, they will be happy to sell us a new model with 2GB RAM a year later.
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Of course, apple will feed us the BS saying that the latest OS cannot be handled fluidly on older devices. I've never been so embarrassed as an apple user. After looking at how well windows 10 runs on PCs built in 2008, I have started to believe that apple's intentionally slowing down devices with their software "upgrades"
I'm not so sure it is deliberate/intentional, but I am more leaning to just terrible design decisions, and horrendous optimization, with a lot of apathy toward the whole situation stacked on top.
When you're throwing 1GB of RAM in devices that are pushing up to 401ppi (6 Plus) and have advanced applications that are pushing every part of mobile computing to the limits, you blew it.
Seriously. I'm no software engineer, but memory management is so vital to the fluid performance of these devices. Think of RAM like your desk at work. That's your "at will" space. If you had to work on a desk that's 2x2', you wouldn't get anything done without a struggle cause there's no room to move things around when you need a certain file, etc.
I know the 6s/6s Plus is supposed to have more RAM, but it's almost like too little too late.
I definitely understand and agree with the RAM issue. That sort of escaped my mind in my last post although I was talking more the software side of things. At least we pretty much are for sure getting 2GB of RAM in the 6S, we will take a huge step forward in OS performance from that point on. Bad part is, Apple will likely leave the 1GB devices in the dust shortly after.
As someone said before, the problem is simple. The lag and stutter is because of poor ui design and optimization. Too much unnecesary effects everywhere. If you try stock android you will see what it means to be quick. Almost no unnecesary animations and quick as hell.
Is the first time that i dont know what is apple doing. The king of software. The beta 9 performance is embarrasing.
IMPORTANT: if you want to see what ios9 should have been, go to settings turn "reduce transparency" and reduce motion" ON, and then start playing with the phone and its animation like CC, Notif center etc. That is the smoothness ios 9 should have. The clear issue is effects and animations. Poor engineering and design. This has been going downhill and no one can deny it.
Is the first time that i dont know what is apple doing. The king of software. The beta 9 performance is embarrasing.
IMPORTANT: if you want to see what ios9 should have been, go to settings turn "reduce transparency" and reduce motion" ON, and then start playing with the phone and its animation like CC, Notif center etc. That is the smoothness ios 9 should have. The clear issue is effects and animations. Poor engineering and design. This has been going downhill and no one can deny it.
I think there's still time for iOS 9 Beta 6 to come out.
It could happen this week (maybe tomorrow). Then it gives 2 weeks until the September 9th event, where they'll announce the GM, giving a week for that to be tested before public iOS 9 launch.. Plenty of time.
As for everyone else and battery life.. I'm about 5 to 5.5 hours of usage on the latest beta. That's the better side of normal for me (4.5 to 5 hours usually). That's all non-wifi usage, so mobile data only, brightness around 25% and not using auto-brightness.
Anyone noticed boot times? On my iPhone with my existing backup, boot time is double what it was when I tried my iPhone "as new" on the latest beta.
Not sure what it is in my backup that's slowing things down. Shame I can't restore as new, but keep my health data :-(
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Too busy enjoying the relatively bug free 8.4.1 in my iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Air.
They're doing well, stable fast and only crash apps once in awhile, that's about as good as Apple gets.
I'm not about to voluntarily jump to a new version... I've got better things to do
Like posting in this forum?
iOS 9 in its current shape is already miles better than iOS 8 can ever hope to be.