Judging by Apple's history with non-Jobs CEOs, I don't think Cook will fare much better. Usually with most companies, going by what their predecessor did is not a great idea but Apple is (was) not like those other companies. Steve Jobs was the heart and soul of Apple, and he WAS Apple, he had the great leadership qualities and I'm sure Cook is an adequate leader but nothing more as he sorely lacks the taste and vision that Jobs had which was necessary for an innovative company like Apple. The only real thing that sets Tim Cook apart from the other Apple CEOs that preceded Jobs is that Cook is blessed with inheriting Apple's massive load of cash which he can essentially use a shield anytime they make flops and/or really stupid products or services. They can absorb those bad decisions because of their seemingly endless stream of wealth. Cook is no visionary in any way shape or form and honestly he should've used Steve as a reference for Apple's future and not fragment and bloat the iOS device lineup with multiple display sizes or fire Scott Forstall for BS reasons just because they can now. There are times when there is a solid formula that must be followed, Apple should've been one of those rare cases.
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Stupid products and services? Like SJ did? Apple has moved into the post SJ area, people should follow.
They don't however sell well enough to be more than a minor consideration for investors. Along with all the other non-iPhone lines.
Really? So huge institutional investors whose fund managers make millions of dollars a year are short sighted.
Short term profit is always the way of wall street. Throwing the amount of money they have means nothing.
An example of the stupid products and services that came out under Tim Cook that would most likely never have been released under Jobs or at least not in their current form.
Stupid products:
iPad Pro/Apple Pencil
Apple Watch
12" Retina MacBook
iOS 7 and newer
Stupid Services:
Apple Music
Find My Friends
I agree with most of those but hasn't find my friends been around for ages, I think its quite a good app (when it works properly).
you also forgot to add the weird humped case apple released yesterday
Somehow Steve Jobs likely had a fair bit of input or at the very least knowledge of if not actual propositions for quite of a few of these if not most/all of them given that from what I recall when he left there was a roadmap of about 5 or so years in place. Also let's not forget various things that came out while Steve Jobs was there, like iPod Socks or Ping.
Right. You're not a fan of some of the products, so they must be stupid products and services. World revolves around you, and I completely forgot.
You do know there are some institutional investors that have Apple stock for the long term. But let's debate what we might think they do not what their actual portfolio strategies are.
Jony Ive has gone on record to say the Watch began development after Jobs died. The iOS 7 redesign definitely wouldn't have happened as Jobs would never fire Scott Forstall. Jobs wouldn't have signed off on the iPad Pro and certainly not the Apple Pencil. The iPad mini I believe would've still been released with Jobs as it was noted that he started to become more receptive to the idea towards the end. Idk about the 12" Retina MacBook but my thought is, if that new MacBook were to be released he would've been more bold and simply discontinued the Air line and merge it into the new MacBook line as the current MacBook family is kinda bloated now. I also don't think Jobs would've acquired Beats, it really wouldn't be necessary since Jobs was a guy who really understood music and had very close ties in the industry unlike Cook which is why the latter felt he needed to pay $3billion to essentially hire Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre.
Again, while some of that might certainly be the case, a good part of it doesn't quite reconcile with well publicized information about a roadmap for a number of years being in place with Steve's input by the time he left.
I take it you run one of those? No? You're just speculating as well and pretending to be the smartest guy here? Yeah, sounds about right.
I really think the issue with these debates is that some don't seem to understand our relationship with Apple.
We are the consumers. We buy Apple products. We go out, work, earn money, and spend it on their devices -- WE keep THEM afloat. They don't donate their products out of the goodness of their hearts, no, they charge quite a lot and in return WE, again as consumers, expect and deserve a reliable, good product for a reasonable amount of time. Personally, I would say a Mac should last at least 5 years, and an iPhone should last at least 2 years (the length of most carrier contracts) with no visible degradation in performance.
Apple has not delivered on this. No matter which way you cut it, they haven't. iOS 9, even 9.2, on the iPhone 6 is a joke. A complete joke. Now, I don't care if I should turn motion off, or turn on reduced transparency, or whether my 'standards are too high' or if what I see is 'inconsequential'. I, ALL OF US, are consumers and we just shouldn't stand for this, lol.
I think of it like this: when I spend £600 on a phone, when I can easily get a cheap Android one for less than £200, I basically go into an unwritten contract that that phone should be, ya know, a decent quality! And I'm not talking about just the hardware, I expect the software to be top notch. What is hardware good for without software? Yeah, my iPhone 6 is pretty, but when I swipe up the control centre, or scroll through my twitter feed, all of that is forgotten. All I see is bleugh.
My initial question I posted on the other forum remains unanswered, and I am genuinely interested. Why do people contradict those of us who point out and say that an issue exists? Why bother? Why say things like 'well ppl complained about iOS 7 and iOS 8 etc. etc.'. Yeah, good! Whose to say that those complaints didn't at least in part make iOS better?
When we complain, at least for me, the end goal is to get people to listen! To not take this rubbish -- because, as a poster earlier pointed out, to think that Apple is above failure is really, troublingly naive. RIM used to be viewed as invincible. Think about that.
I really do believe that the next couple of years are the make it or break it for Apple, because people are starting to listen and notice. I see it in the reactions and reviews of the Apple Watch, I see it in reactions to the (horrendous) 12" Retina MacBook butterfly mechanism keyboard, I see it in iPad Pro reviews. Apple is slowly but surely losing its shine and I promise you, they won't last the next 10-15 years the way they're going.
Now, will next years iPhone sell miserably? Of course not. It will probably break all the records, like every year it seems. But it won't last forever, and if you REALLY care about Apple and enjoy using their products, I implore you to please either speak out about your negative experiences, or, if you don't have any, refrain from bashing those who do.
P.S. if there are spelling mistakes or rough grammar please excuse me, I have had a few drinks and its 2AM right now, haha.
We are the consumers. We buy Apple products. We go out, work, earn money, and spend it on their devices -- WE keep THEM afloat. They don't donate their products out of the goodness of their hearts, no, they charge quite a lot and in return WE, again as consumers, expect and deserve a reliable, good product for a reasonable amount of time. Personally, I would say a Mac should last at least 5 years, and an iPhone should last at least 2 years (the length of most carrier contracts) with no visible degradation in performance.
Apple has not delivered on this. No matter which way you cut it, they haven't. iOS 9, even 9.2, on the iPhone 6 is a joke. A complete joke. Now, I don't care if I should turn motion off, or turn on reduced transparency, or whether my 'standards are too high' or if what I see is 'inconsequential'. I, ALL OF US, are consumers and we just shouldn't stand for this, lol.
I think of it like this: when I spend £600 on a phone, when I can easily get a cheap Android one for less than £200, I basically go into an unwritten contract that that phone should be, ya know, a decent quality! And I'm not talking about just the hardware, I expect the software to be top notch. What is hardware good for without software? Yeah, my iPhone 6 is pretty, but when I swipe up the control centre, or scroll through my twitter feed, all of that is forgotten. All I see is bleugh.
My initial question I posted on the other forum remains unanswered, and I am genuinely interested. Why do people contradict those of us who point out and say that an issue exists? Why bother? Why say things like 'well ppl complained about iOS 7 and iOS 8 etc. etc.'. Yeah, good! Whose to say that those complaints didn't at least in part make iOS better?
When we complain, at least for me, the end goal is to get people to listen! To not take this rubbish -- because, as a poster earlier pointed out, to think that Apple is above failure is really, troublingly naive. RIM used to be viewed as invincible. Think about that.
I really do believe that the next couple of years are the make it or break it for Apple, because people are starting to listen and notice. I see it in the reactions and reviews of the Apple Watch, I see it in reactions to the (horrendous) 12" Retina MacBook butterfly mechanism keyboard, I see it in iPad Pro reviews. Apple is slowly but surely losing its shine and I promise you, they won't last the next 10-15 years the way they're going.
Now, will next years iPhone sell miserably? Of course not. It will probably break all the records, like every year it seems. But it won't last forever, and if you REALLY care about Apple and enjoy using their products, I implore you to please either speak out about your negative experiences, or, if you don't have any, refrain from bashing those who do.
P.S. if there are spelling mistakes or rough grammar please excuse me, I have had a few drinks and its 2AM right now, haha.
No I know it for fact as I'm plugged into that type of business. But you do know some of this is available online. https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=AAPL+Major+Holders But in the end this is an anonymous internet forum, so I throw my creds and education out the window and debate point by point on all topics apple. So carry on with that you think investment strategies are all speculation based on your beliefs.
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I don't know where you got that anybody wants to deny an issue exists for you. Other people may not have the same issue and because there is an issue doesn't mean the entire release is garbage as has been said; as you just called it a complete joke. It's far from that.
I'm a consumer too, and I like my product and like the latest release of the IOS. I don't focus on the control center, not that mine stutters, but I don't have an i6. However, my son's i6 did stutter slightly in the cc on 9.1. I haven't yet seen the phone on 9.2 so I can't comment on that.
The battery case reminds me of that atrocious keyboard accessory Samsung released for their Note 5.Thing is I expected Samsung to release **** like that but never Apple.
We are discussing accessories now and purely subjective feelings about their looks? What is thread about again? Did everything already get rehashed enough to finally move on to other extraneous and unrelated things? Or is it that iOS 9 caused something related to the look of the battery pack?
so i can't update apps anymore on my iPad. they just hang when i try to download. i've tried a bunch of troubleshooting steps described online, from restarting the app, to rebooting, to hard reset, to changing date and time, to logging out and into my iTunes account. nothing.
i'm about at the point where i either need to do a settings reset or a restore, both of which start getting into large amounts of wasted time and reconfiguration. and i'm coming up against issues that require this level of effort to resolve on an increasingly regular basis.
if you're happy with apple and think they're doing a great job, power to you. but personally i haven't been impressed by what they're doing for a while now. they've already soured me to iPads, and i'm getting pretty tempted to start looking elsewhere next time i need a phone. i've no particular love for any competitors, and they may be crap too, but nothing from apple lately inspires me to give them any repeat business.
i'm about at the point where i either need to do a settings reset or a restore, both of which start getting into large amounts of wasted time and reconfiguration. and i'm coming up against issues that require this level of effort to resolve on an increasingly regular basis.
if you're happy with apple and think they're doing a great job, power to you. but personally i haven't been impressed by what they're doing for a while now. they've already soured me to iPads, and i'm getting pretty tempted to start looking elsewhere next time i need a phone. i've no particular love for any competitors, and they may be crap too, but nothing from apple lately inspires me to give them any repeat business.
You have been, though. I've seen nearly all of your postings on the other thread and this one. It seems that you and the C DM guy literally go after people who complain about anything Apple related. You either use your own experiences to invalidate theirs OR you say that the issue is inconsequential.
So you admit that the control centre is laggy on iOS 9 on the iPhone 6. (It is with iOS 9.2, but to a lesser degree I will admit). -- do you think this is acceptable, then? Most consumers will not upgrade their iPhone every year, meaning that most iPhone 6 customers will experience choppiness in a place that wasn't there before. The hardware hasn't changed, which means it is a software issue. Apple just hasn't bothered to optimise the software for older devices.
It's just bleugh to me whenever I see it. Not just in the control centre, but all around the OS. Yeah, iOS 9.2 made the problem much better. But it is still far away from being as smooth as 8.4.1.
To answer your question, the cc is acceptable as it does not affect phone operation one bit, compared to for example the resprings under iOS 8. The number of times I use cc in one day is minuscule compared to safari go example.
It also seems that when people state their devices don't have an issue or to a lesser degree; those posters are gone after.
And therein lies the problem! 'Well it's okay that the control centre is laggy where it wasn't before because the OS is more stable'.
No. Wrong. We should not be trading one for the other, stability and smoothness. As consumers, we should be getting both. No ifs or buts I'm afraid.
Okay, well if it's not acceptable to you, you know what to do I'm afraid. A small visual glitch doesn't destroy the entire experience for me.
It's not OK and we should be getting improvements. But at the same time it's not as nearly as bad as some have been making it out to be nor is something like that all that new or shocking. Similarly jumping into practically every thread to throw in an overgeneralized hyperbole that everything is horrible and it would be just crazy for anyone to update is also not exactly useful or helpful.