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iOS 9 on iPhone 5S is horrible
- Thread starter George Waseem
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Good point, but consider this:
- "iOS 9 is based under-the-hood performance enhancements and everything has been optimized" - Apple
- A group of users decides not to try any beta and won't read any comments about it
- iOS 9 Final Build is slower than iOS 8
- Said users: Why?
Also, considering the part that METAL took in all of this, if the iPhone 5S shows these listed problems in the final build then that would be ridiculously unacceptable.
It has to, but it doesn't. No X.0 build has done this before.
You're the perfect example i was looking for. You rely on a fact that tends to be obvious because "It's going to be the build on the hands of the users"
But have you ever seen anyone not complaining about a X.0 update? What about a X.0.1 update not coming shortly after?
"Tends" to fix the XX% of the discovered issues.
And by discovered i mean the ones that Apple actually looked at. Not every reported problem will be given attention. No one knows why, but the most obvious explanations:
- Not enough time
- Not enough testers
- Not enough programers
The build that you're talking about is: 9.1
But i'd love if Apple could burn me/shut me up on this.
Please. It can't be worse than those posts asking about battery durability again and again and again and again and again every time a beta is released.
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Gotta say I have been running IO9 on my 5S and have only a few minor niggles. Its in its BETA stage, what do you expect?
iOS 9 isn't out yet.
The beta, however - is acting like a typical beta; one should understand what being in beta will mean prior to installing it.
The feedback app exists for a reason - let apple know about what issues you're having
Let's wait for the actual release of iOS 9, before jumping all over iOS 9
Btw maybe your problems are 3rd party software not updated for iOS 9 ??? It could be a range of factors You obviously are not the sort of person who should be running a beta os. Or maybe go over to android it's great and secure from what I hear.
Well the betas aren't over but some users are clowns and go around telling their friends how iOS X version sucks when it's still in beta stages. Those people should not be able to install the Beta at all.
To be fair, iOS 9 was suppose to be focused on Optimisation/Performance, and its like beta 5 now, and still running like a hog on my iPhone 6 Plus.
To be fair, iOS 9 was suppose to be focused on Optimisation/Performance, and its like beta 5 now, and still running like a hog on my iPhone 6 Plus.
Who knows? Perhaps iOS 9.0 is awful, but iOS 9.3 is amazing! So far we just have a beta. Instead of or together with complaining here, we should report our experiences to Apple.
To be fair, iOS 9 was suppose to be focused on Optimisation/Performance, and its like beta 5 now, and still running like a hog on my iPhone 6 Plus.
I'm running Beta 4 on my 6+ and yes it I see delays in portrait/landscape switching, apps opening slowly etc. But I'm confident it will be better in the end.
God, I wish this would happen. I dunno how they could do it - maybe some kind of randomised SDK quiz in order to get iTunes to start the update?
I can't stand superiority in any way, i was raised under the concept that "Everyone is equal an capable of anything"
If gvien the case, sit down with your knowledge, becasue everybody can/should/could run a beta os, there's no "sort" on the matter, don't be ridiculous.
The only advantage you could actually have is further understanding, maybe you're a developer or you know how the code works.
Why do public betas exist then? Have you seen Apple saying to a common user "Oh you're not the kind of person needed to run beta software, now go to hell"?
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My friend, that's a thing we both agree on. There's no verdict 'till the final version and yeah, people should watch their comments.
But on the other hand, what are the chances of a clean installation behaving bad on one device and not in other?
That seems like a reason for it to be slow/laggy, not hot.
At least not a noticeable hot.
It would index every new thing on the device as it is created, right?
...If you're right, then i think i don't want Spotlight anymore.
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Chances are 50/50 essentially given that plenty of people have no issues with pretty much any update, while there are almost always some that do (even with clean updates at times).
Well, now that you mention it, i think i heard some noise about that with iOS 8 on the iPhone 4S. (8.0 and 8.3)
I think that the number could be tweaked a little (like 35/100 for the unlucky ones?) but you're right.
What's left is the obvious-not-so-obvious question:Why?
I'm not implying superiority when I say the "sort of person who should run a beta". To run a beta you should be able to handle the ups and downs and not moan about it as it isn't complete.
People running betas need to be more relaxed about quirks and bugs.
Comments about the bugs is what the beta process is for not negativity. Next time you get in your car would you disable the key safety features then go for a drive? Well running a beta even a public one is risky.
I personally run the beta ONLY if I'm not too busy and or stressed to handle the bugs.
Everyone should be equal, but I have no idea how that somehow means everyone is equally capable of something. That's ludicrous and a total non-sequitur.
I don't walk into a hospital and demand to be allowed to perform surgery on people, because I don't have the knowledge to perform surgery. I don't go to Apple and demand to be write their operating systems, because I am not a software engineer. I don't go to CERN and demand that I should be able to run experiments using the LHC, because I am not a physicist. People have different talents, different levels of knowledge, different levels of understanding.
People who think beta software should be pristine and bug-free and warn people against running the final version of software based on experiences of bugginess in a beta clearly don't have the knowledge or understanding required to be running beta software.
With a release such as iOS 9, where most features are developer-facing and require developers to implement them into their applications - something which cannot be publicly released until iOS 9 is publicly released - there is no reason for the vast majority of non-developers to even be running iOS 9 beta. Very few of the new features are available straight away to users.
The Public Betas are frequently different builds to those developers are running - more stable, more well tested builds. They exist because there are people who do understand the meaning of the "beta" label who aren't developers but won't cry and moan because their favourite app no longer works, they get that there will be bugs, and who will make genuinely useful bug reports.
On what planet would making beta software more difficult for people who don't understand the definition of beta be Apple saying "go to hell"?
If you want your issues addressed then you should make sure to report them to Apple.
I don't get people making threads like this... To you really need to vent that badly? It's a mobile operating system for god's sake... If you don't like it, downgrade and restore from a backup. Simple as that.
I have absolutely no issues on my 5S and I've been running every beta so far. Which goes to show that generalizing based on one experience with one beta is not scientific evidence.
This. Maybe they should have a popup with that message before letting people install the beta (just kidding).
This. Maybe they should have a popup with that message before letting people install the beta (just kidding).
What are you on about? I've had every single beta on my iP5S and it's been absolutely fine. Crashed a few times in the early betas but that's it really. It's been just like running any other full release.
Every beta has some issues and it's not bug-free. I know that very well.
But when the my phone is just a couple of degrees away from melting, this isn't acceptable.
Even if it's a developer or public software, it should not cause any "hardware" harm to the devices.
It can only cause software problems.
I downloaded the 1st public beta And it had the heating problem in which my iPhone was so hot that my hand looked red when I kept the phone away. (iPad has the same problem but not that serious). This could damage the devices internals like battery, screen etc. "My old iPhone 4 screen turned to Yellow "partially" just because of heating issues with a certain iOS version"
Apple didn't resolve the problem even with the Public Beta 2 (I even think the problem got more worse when I upgraded to pb2
I can handle all software problems and bugs cause I know that they get fixed in newer betas. But what I can't handle is Hardware problems, iPhone isn't that cheap to get fixed and buying a new one will cost much money.
So I hope that people reading this thread to know and to feel that what I'm talking about is serious and deserves attention.
I know very well it's a beta but if it damaged a single hardware from my devices, I'm doing a big service for Apple which is that I report bugs that I notice while I use the system. Apple should care more about devices when they use the beta stage software.
Even iOS 9 is not that big of a deal. We had that search bar in all iOS versions and i don't think the new proactivity is that serious.
I asked Siri to open photos from my library from last year and it said that I need to acivate location services for it to do that, this is not intelligence.
Multitaking for iPad is supported on minimum devices and the only good multitasking feature is split view, other features like slide over are not that big of a deal, they could have launched the multitasking features in an 8.5 software update.
I do my job which is to find bugs, but I don't think Apple really care any more about their software.
Aren't you people who subscribe to the developer program angry, you pay 99$ per year to get the newest software which is iOS 9 or 8.4.1 etc. Iam a developer and I payed 0$ and I got iOS 9 officially by Apple on my IDevice, there is no difference from being a developer or not, we get the same builds 1 day after the developer beta.
Apple did this to legalize the way people download iOS 9 betas, just to kill that UDID license website.
But when the my phone is just a couple of degrees away from melting, this isn't acceptable.
Even if it's a developer or public software, it should not cause any "hardware" harm to the devices.
It can only cause software problems.
I downloaded the 1st public beta And it had the heating problem in which my iPhone was so hot that my hand looked red when I kept the phone away. (iPad has the same problem but not that serious). This could damage the devices internals like battery, screen etc. "My old iPhone 4 screen turned to Yellow "partially" just because of heating issues with a certain iOS version"
Apple didn't resolve the problem even with the Public Beta 2 (I even think the problem got more worse when I upgraded to pb2
I can handle all software problems and bugs cause I know that they get fixed in newer betas. But what I can't handle is Hardware problems, iPhone isn't that cheap to get fixed and buying a new one will cost much money.
So I hope that people reading this thread to know and to feel that what I'm talking about is serious and deserves attention.
I know very well it's a beta but if it damaged a single hardware from my devices, I'm doing a big service for Apple which is that I report bugs that I notice while I use the system. Apple should care more about devices when they use the beta stage software.
Even iOS 9 is not that big of a deal. We had that search bar in all iOS versions and i don't think the new proactivity is that serious.
I asked Siri to open photos from my library from last year and it said that I need to acivate location services for it to do that, this is not intelligence.
Multitaking for iPad is supported on minimum devices and the only good multitasking feature is split view, other features like slide over are not that big of a deal, they could have launched the multitasking features in an 8.5 software update.
I do my job which is to find bugs, but I don't think Apple really care any more about their software.
Aren't you people who subscribe to the developer program angry, you pay 99$ per year to get the newest software which is iOS 9 or 8.4.1 etc. Iam a developer and I payed 0$ and I got iOS 9 officially by Apple on my IDevice, there is no difference from being a developer or not, we get the same builds 1 day after the developer beta.
Apple did this to legalize the way people download iOS 9 betas, just to kill that UDID license website.
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If your phone were running this hot, it would shut down and display the dreaded "Let iPhone cool down" screen.
It may, and you are warned about this before installing the beta. Everyone wishes it doesn't, but it may. That's why it is a beta.
You can't expect Apple to fix everything in the two weeks between two betas.
If it's not that big of a deal for you, you can go back to iOS 8.4 and wait for the final release then.
It has always been this way. Siri needs access to picture metadata to know when the picture was taken, and since metadata includes location information, then you need location services. Developers know that.
They aren't paying to get the betas, they're paying to get their software onto the App Store.
That's not what the developer program is about--it's one of the things that's part of it, but that's not really what it's mainly about.
1st, Apple till now released 5 betas and all of them has an exact copy for the public, so they aren't just 2 betas.
2nd, location services and Siri are like bonded, Siri can't do 60 % of its job just because location services, if Apple is developing the intelligence on I devices, Siri should just search the date and it doesn't need location if the photo doesn't contain location in its details. So this is called stupidness not intelligence.
3rd, I've been an apple developer for nearly 3 years and when every new software is released I see that big PAY button when I go to the developers center every year to know if it's free or not. I waited for Apple to make the public beta so I could try the new software. You actually pay for both not only for uploading apps on App Store.
This is not the first time for me trying beta software and I know very well what Apple should've done to make this software perfect.
Have u seen the Wikipedia page of iOS 9, it just contains a small paragraph about the exact new features of iOS 9, this is QUITE SMALL FOR A NEW APPLE SOFTWARE. Have you seen the iOS 8 Wikipedia, it's huge, I keep on scrolling to reach the end of the paragraph to see the newest features added by every new update released. It was actually huge since the first beta, iOS 9 contains minimum new features and the only thing that differntiates iOS 9 from iOS 8 is that new search page available on some of the devices when swiping to the right.
It's official, Apple is treating the developers like public, no big difference.