iOS 9 Runs Great on 6S

[JT2002TJ]

Says who? The rest of the industry?? Because nope..
I've been buying consumer electronic devices since like forever. Going back to the Pocket PC days support for newer OS/firmware would actually cease for hardware in like a year or less. Symbian OS from Nokia would support firmware upgrades only if there are faults. Same as Sony Ericsson, Motorolla etc
Apple started the trend of adding new features in firmware upgrades for years after release
Your 2 year support claim isn't supported by consumer electronics history

What are the prices to the customer for these other phones? If you will notice I said a $1,000 phone. Samsungs typically cost a customer between $100-$500 for a phone. Within a year, Samsungs typically go for 2 for $100.

Iphones are twice the prices of these other phones.

And yes, it is industry supported. Blackberry, the foundation of all smart phones offered OS multiyear updates before Apple even came into the game.

 

[JT2002TJ]

There clearly are issues with iOS 9.0, I'm sure it will be addressed with later versions. It just seems they should start thinking about doing multi year OS' and only do upgrades in between. It is silly the weird interface errors like text overlapping as screens are loading.

 

[teknikal90]

What are the prices to the customer for these other phones? If you will notice I said a $1,000 phone. Samsungs typically cost a customer between $100-$500 for a phone. Within a year, Samsungs typically go for 2 for $100.

Iphones are twice the prices of these other phones.

And yes, it is industry supported. Blackberry, the foundation of all smart phones offered OS multiyear updates before Apple even came into the game.

samsung and iphone are pretty neck and neck in terms of price point.
and name me 1 blackberry that continued to get firmware updates with new feature additions beyond 2 years, before the days of the iphone.

 

[schmegs]

For me (on my 6), iOS 9 is slower, but less buggy than any of the iOS 8 versions. I'll take the bug fixes, but I wish the performance was better.

For the past few major iOS releases, Apple has improved performance on older devices in one of the .1 updates, so hopefully they'll follow that trend this time.

I'm still bummed, though, that out of all the iOS devices I've had (back to the 3g), it seems like the 6 will never have a stable and optimized version of the iOS for it.

 

[DomC]

There might not be a conscious plot for obsolescence but if Apple really cared how old devices functioned they would let users revert to the OS that worked the best for them (with the caveat that apps wouldn't be updated, the OS functions would be dated, and security issues might arise). Let the user decide just like the desktop OS. Apple's idea of what version functions on what device my be technically true, but not in always in reality. I had a 3g, iOS 4 was abysmal.
Apple takes pride in announcing how many users have updated to the newest iOS to give credence to their work and to placate stock holders. Too bad a barometer of the company health isn't simply how many devices are still in service regardless of age. That would be impressive as well.

 

[Skylitfly]

Had a play with a 6S in store this morning. It's as fast as my 6 on 8.4.1

Hmm so yeah. Our 6, 6 Plus etc are basically obsolete within a year. It is all solely optimised for the 6S.

This never happened to the 5S when the 6 came out, that's for sure.

Not cool Apple.

My iPhone 6 runs iOS 9.1 just as well as it did with iOS 8. And now I have even more features than before.

I don't know what you are talking about. If you are talking about the micro lags here and there you should not worry. They have been there ever since iOS 5 or iOS 6. Later, more polished iteration of the software will fix those. Thats why you don't compare iOS 8.4 to iOS 9.0. You compare iOS 8.4 to iOS 9.4 when it's out.

And by the way... iOS 9 PB1 was better in terms of fluidity than iOS 8.0 public release.

So much about planned obsolonse...

 

[CTHarrryH]

My 5s ran fine on 9. My 6s seems great speed wise also but only had one hour.
Support olD phones and iOS - ask app developers if they want to support old stuff
If Apple can get people to buy every year that is great. Called capitalism.

 

[zoneee]

my 2 cents :

apple optimizes their firmwares more on new phones, little less on old ones.

this sounds like planned obsolescence, or at least it has the same result. the more you upgrade your software, the less its optimized for your hardware.

 

[RobT]

No sorry, I updated to 9.0.1 out of the box. And then did that

Same here. Whenever I get a new phone I start fresh (as a new phone, not from backup). I updated to 9.0.1 first right out of the box and then re-installed apps and entered settings. I know buying a new phone is an expensive way to deal with iOS 9 lag and unresponsiveness, but IMO the 6s seems really fast and responsive in comparison.

 

[Zaft]

This is the first time that the phone has slowed down after a year. It's always been good for a year then slow down with the 2nd update. The 6 is a 5S with a bigger screen.

 

[shanson27]

I got always those black squares?

 

[BlazingGold]

The is no planned obsolescence. My god when will you guys stop with this bs.

I never agree with all of the conspiracy theories, but consider this : why did the iPhone 6+ not come with 2GB of ram? Because it would make the 6s a less impressive upgrade. Now, if the 6+ did have the 2GB of ram, it would make the jump in speed seem less impressive when compared to the new 6s+. Call it planned obsolescence or just simple sales tactics, it is the same thing

 

[BlazingGold]

There might not be a conscious plot for obsolescence but if Apple really cared how old devices functioned they would let users revert to the OS that worked the best for them (with the caveat that apps wouldn't be updated, the OS functions would be dated, and security issues might arise). Let the user decide just like the desktop OS. Apple's idea of what version functions on what device my be technically true, but not in always in reality. I had a 3g, iOS 4 was abysmal.
Apple takes pride in announcing how many users have updated to the newest iOS to give credence to their work and to placate stock holders. Too bad a barometer of the company health isn't simply how many devices are still in service regardless of age. That would be impressive as well.

Everyone should read this. VERY, VERY true. You said it better than I could!!

 

[C DM]

I never agree with all of the conspiracy theories, but consider this : why did the iPhone 6+ not come with 2GB of ram? Because it would make the 6s a less impressive upgrade. Now, if the 6+ did have the 2GB of ram, it would make the jump in speed seem less impressive when compared to the new 6s+. Call it planned obsolescence or just simple sales tactics, it is the same thing

So when 7 comes out with the same amount of RAM how would that fit with that theory? Or when 4S or 5s came out with the same amount of RAM as the predecessor. Things advance, sometimes at a slower pace than many would like, but that doesn't mean there's some conspiracy about it (it doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't either).

 

[TommyA6]

So when 7 comes out with the same amount of RAM how would that fit with that theory? Or when 4S or 5s came out with the same amount of RAM as the predecessor. Things advance, sometimes at a slower pace than many would like, but that doesn't mean there's some conspiracy about it (it doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't either).

The 7 will have a new design as one of its selling points...

 

[BlazingGold]

So when 7 comes out with the same amount of RAM how would that fit with that theory? Or when 4S or 5s came out with the same amount of RAM as the predecessor. Things advance, sometimes at a slower pace than many would like, but that doesn't mean there's some conspiracy about it (it doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't either).

The 7 of course will have a better processor and be faster than the predecessor. My point is not that it is a conspiracy, but that Apple, as most companies do similar, intentionally held off on putting 2 gigs of RAM in the 6+to make the next model that much more impressive WITH the 2 gigs of RAM. Obviously the 7 will have some features that could have been in the 6s as well, being that so many features are planned out and developed ahead of time. However, the lack of 2GB of RAM in the original 6+ was more noticeable than, say, a minor feature missing from the 6s that will be included in the 7 planned a year ahead of time

 

[Paddle1]

Seeing what Apple did to the iPhone 4 with iOS 7.1 (and other updates too) if they make it a target to improve the performance for a specific device(s) they will make sure that it happens.

Unfortunately, great performance and stability don't seem to be the goal for x.0 updates. Just adding new features, and making it run "good enough".

 

[Tubamajuba]

My 6s Plus lags in the exact same places my old 6 did.

I suppose Apple forgot to wait a year before making the 6s Plus obsolete.

 

[C DM]

The 7 will have a new design as one of its selling points...

And 6s has a lot of other things going for it too. in fact ram wasn't even one of the things that was advertised or even mentioned anywhere so if that if it was something that was saved for it specifically for reason of setting it apart you would think it'd be advertised or at least even mention somewhere which it wasn't by Apple.

 

[sanke1]

The is no planned obsolescence. My god when will you guys stop with this bs.

I thoroughly disagree. iOS 8 rendered most devices with lag and stutter. Keyboard translucency in Safari was not needed. Apple deliberately added translucency at places so that most 1 yr devices like Air 1 became unusuable!
Planned obsolescence or what?

 

[C DM]

I thoroughly disagree. iOS 8 rendered most devices with lag and stutter. Keyboard translucency in Safari was not needed. Apple deliberately added translucency at places so that most 1 yr devices like Air 1 became unusuable!
Planned obsolescence or what?

More modern and intricate design with more complex effects that are accordingly harder to handle on older hardware because it's older and things have progressed forward. Are all design elements needed or good for everyone? Not really. But it's all more from a perspective of design change/advancement vs. necessarily something done to specially just make things worse on older devices. Seems like a fairly reasonable alternative explanation for it.

 

[sanke1]

More modern and intricate design with more complex effects that are accordingly harder to handle on older hardware because it's older and things have progressed forward. Are all design elements needed or good for everyone? Not really. But it's all more from a perspective of design change/advancement vs. necessarily something done to specially just make things worse on older devices. Seems like a fairly reasonable alternative explanation for it.

Alpha testing must have showed how Safari started lagging with keybord translucency to Apple employees. The design change was barely noticeable. But still with all the stutter, Apple went for it.
I agree with iPhone 4 and iPad 3. Those devices were genuinely underpowered. But with Air 1 and 5S, there was no reason for unnecessary stutter.

 

[chekz0414]

I don't think 9.0 was specifically optimized for the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus...I think they just have amazing specs. I mean the 6 had 1GB of RAM and a 1.4GHz processor the new babes have 2GB and 1.82GHz that's a good raw jump, and for it to beat a MacBook...that's a big deal to me. I'm glad to have bought it, this phone FEELS future proof.

 

[JHUFrank]

My 6 and 6+ are running great. No issues.

My 6+ has been running iOS 9 since early beta just fine too. :::shrug:::

 

[crashoverride77]

how do you know? We don't know what the companies do , VW is perfect example.

How do I know? Maybe the 18+ years using computers and software helps.
Why don't you buy 2 computers, or earlier smartphones such as Symbian Nokia phones, one about 2-3 years older than the other. Than let me know which one is faster.
I don't need to tell you which one, and it's surely not because Microsoft or nokia made their OS more obsolete each year.

Do you guys actually think it would be smart for Apple do that? I mean seriously?
Ignore all the bs from forum posters about they want you to buy more devices, greedy Apple, bla bla bla.
Would you do it if you where running Apple? Obviously not, because if you would you might as well shoot your self in the foot while your at it.