iOS 9 vs iOS 8 speed and smoothness?

[businezguy]

The GM is the final release. There's no debugging to turn off.

That's the way I understood it worked (not a developer so no expert). I was just asking out of wishful thinking, I guess. It seems really odd to me that Apple would allow IOS 9 to be subpar when they make the bulk of their profits off of IOS devices. This is especially odd considering the new iPad they are pinning their hopes on.

8.4.1 does run pretty well on my iPhone 6 Plus (finally), I think I'll need to forgo IOS 9 until I'm convinced its up to par. This will be a first for me, but the initial offerings of IOS 8 were just so buggy and I've learned my lesson. At least El Capitan is turning out to be a really solid release.

 

[jonnyb098]

ios 9.1 beta is much better on my 6. not as perfectly smooth as 8.4.1, but 80-90% there... a lot less lag

Ummm......the writing is on the wall when people are saying 9.1 is almost as good as 8.4.1 which was never silky smooth.

 

[canesalato]

That's the way I understood it worked (not a developer so no expert). I was just asking out of wishful thinking, I guess. It seems really odd to me that Apple would allow IOS 9 to be subpar when they make the bulk of their profits off of IOS devices. This is especially odd considering the new iPad they are pinning their hopes on.

8.4.1 does run pretty well on my iPhone 6 Plus (finally), I think I'll need to forgo IOS 9 until I'm convinced its up to par. This will be a first for me, but the initial offerings of IOS 8 were just so buggy and I've learned my lesson. At least El Capitan is turning out to be a really solid release.

I really think iOS9.0 is not subpar. And I have been testing it for days. 8.0, 7.0, 6.0. Those were all subpar! But 9 is actually the first good .0 release since iOS 5.
So cheer up!
Is it slow? Well, it's slowER than 8 (almost the same on iPhone 6 and 5s). Apple promised a faster experience and they didn't deliver, so I understand the disappointment! But if you just look at the quality of the release, it's a good job. Every major iOS release has been slower than the one that came before in the last 8 years. And the spread in speed used to be much more (think iOS4 on 3g, or 6 on the 3gs or 7 on a 4...urgh!). Stability is quite good, new features work well. Could we say the same, at their time, about maps? Apple music? iTunes Match? iCloud core data? Siri? Wireless iTunes Sync? Third party keyboards? Even Airplay and Wifi were ****** in iOS8. Battery life is good, or very good, on my devices. So, is it bad? No, it's just that it was supposed to be faster. We'll see if the promise is fullfilled with 9.1/.2/.3 or if it was just a marketing stunt. But if you put aside Apple pr ********, 9.0 is pretty good. On the 6s and on the Pro will be perfect, same as every year
I still don't like iOS on the iPad, I think too much potential is still left in the dust (external storage, bluetooth trackpad, raw support...) but 9 has actually been improving on this.

 

[fel10]

I just find it weird how Apple promised a more smooth experience with IOS9, using Metal, but we are getting the complete opposite in a couple of days.

 

[canesalato]

I just find it weird how Apple promised a more smooth experience with IOS9, using Metal, but we are getting the
complete opposite in a couple of days.

Marketing people went to the iOS dev team the day before WWDC and asked them:
- can "we" make this faster than 8 while fixing all the bugs?

Dev team:
- urgh, don't think so, especially in just 2 months...Also considering the features and API added in the last months it could actually be a little bit slower!

Marketing guy:
- well, move your asses and make it happen. Costumers said iOS got slow and tomorrow we are gonna promise it's going to be faster. We'll use metal as a marketing memo! Oh, and by the way...we are gonna support the 4s as well for another year! You don't have many new features to present anyway!

Dev team:
What?! We spent the last freaking year trying to squeeze iOS upgrade size from 4.5 to 1.5 GB! And all those tecnologies like app thinning and separate chapters download for games...and...you told us to do that!!

Marketing guy:
That was for OUR C O S T U M E R S' SAKE!!! People couldn't update to freaking iOS8! There was no freaking space!!! Do you understand??

Dev team (almost whispering):
Well...maybe with a 32gb base model...

Marketing guy (screaming, with a red face, white eyes):
32 GB? 32GB?!?! BZZZZ...32 F*****G GBs?! BZZZZZZZZ (very loud, static noise). PROFIT MARGINS BZZZZZZZZZ APPLE SHARES BZZZZZZZ STOCKS....BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 16 GB BZZZZZZZ MORE...THAN...ENOUGH FOR...BZZZZZZZ MOST PEOPLE BZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...BZZZZZZZZZ...ZZZZZZZZZZ...IT'S FOR THE SURVIVAL OF APPLE....BZZZZZZ...INCREDIBLE.....VALUE!!!..BZZZZZZZZZ AMAZING...BZZ................bz................zzzzz........z.........

Dev team guy 1:
.....has he crashed?

Senior dev team guy:
Yeah...his brainOS still runs 8.0, probably didn't have enough space to upgrade to 9 internal builds...and you know...discoveryd....Reboot him. Tell him we'll try our best...!

Ps:
I'm not 100% serious, but I may be not that far off.

 

[oldmacs]

Increase contrast does that. It unfortunately turns your OS into an ugly black/grey t**d.

Its so annoying...... iOS 7.0 still keeps the folders the same colour as the background with reduce transparency turned on, so I wish Apple would implement that in iOS 9 so we can turn on reduce transparency and not have to look at really ugly folders.

 

[teknikal90]

Marketing people went to the iOS dev team the day before WWDC and asked them:
- can "we" make this faster than 8 while fixing all the bugs?

Dev team:
- urgh, don't think so, especially in just 2 months...Also considering the features and API added in the last months it could actually be a little bit slower!

Marketing guy:
- well, move your asses and make it happen. Costumers said iOS got slow and tomorrow we are gonna promise it's going to be faster. We'll use metal as a marketing memo! Oh, and by the way...we are gonna support the 4s as well for another year! You don't have many new features to present anyway!

Dev team:
What?! We spent the last freaking year trying to squeeze iOS upgrade size from 4.5 to 1.5 GB! And all those tecnologies like app thinning and separate chapters download for games...and...you told us to do that!!

Marketing guy:
That was for OUR C O S T U M E R S' SAKE!!! People couldn't update to freaking iOS8! There was no freaking space!!! Do you understand??

Dev team (almost whispering):
Well...maybe with a 32gb base model...

Marketing guy (screaming, with a red face, white eyes):
32 GB? 32GB?!?! BZZZZ...32 F*****G GBs?! BZZZZZZZZ (very loud, static noise). PROFIT MARGINS BZZZZZZZZZ APPLE SHARES BZZZZZZZ STOCKS....BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 16 GB BZZZZZZZ MORE...THAN...ENOUGH FOR...BZZZZZZZ MOST PEOPLE BZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...BZZZZZZZZZ...ZZZZZZZZZZ...IT'S FOR THE SURVIVAL OF APPLE....BZZZZZZ...INCREDIBLE.....VALUE!!!..BZZZZZZZZZ AMAZING...BZZ................bz................zzzzz........z.........

Dev team guy 1:
.....has he crashed?

Senior dev team guy:
Yeah...his brainOS still runs 8.0, probably didn't have enough space to upgrade to 9 internal builds...and you know...discoveryd....Reboot him. Tell him we'll try our best...!

Ps:
I'm not 100% serious, but I may be not that far off.

Marketing guy probably doesn't know what the RAM is.
Nor should they.

 

[canesalato]

Marketing guy probably doesn't know what the RAM is.
Nor should they.

I didn't talk about RAM in my story, but I am sure that must have been another funny conversation.
Fortunately this year iOS dev team won the argument and we have 2gb of RAM on iPhones

 

[TL24]

I was 100% on board with iOS 9.1 B1 but it's starting to lag randomly now, never had this issue with 8.4.1 so for those of you wondering if you should make the jump - don't.... Stick with 8.4.1

 

[SHNXX]

Is 9.0 GM really going to be released to the public?
I expects lots and lots of pissed off people...

 

[TommyA6]

Is 9.0 GM really going to be released to the public?
I expects lots and lots of pissed off people...

Of course it is. Tomorrow...

 

[C DM]

Is 9.0 GM really going to be released to the public?
I expects lots and lots of pissed off people...

Just like 8.0 GM was released and 7.0 GM was released.

 

[jonnyb098]

Marketing guy probably doesn't know what the RAM is.
Nor should they.

Thats BS. Any marketing person worth anything should at least have a beneath the surface understanding of the products the company makes. Let alone working for the most valuable company thats supposed to hold their employees to a higher standard.

Someone working in Apple marketing who doesn't know what RAM is .....DISTRUBING.

 

[jonnyb098]

Is 9.0 GM really going to be released to the public?
I expects lots and lots of pissed off people...

Yeah most everyday people who thought iOS 8 was as fast as iOS 6 will see no difference. The rest of us who have eyeballs that work will notice there virtually ZERO metal optimization. A few things are faster on iPad Air 2 but seriously I dont think the random stutters will ever go away. EVER. Unless they stop with all the blurring effects everywhere.

 

[duffman9000]

I was 100% on board with iOS 9.1 B1 but it's starting to lag randomly now, never had this issue with 8.4.1 so for those of you wondering if you should make the jump - don't.... Stick with 8.4.1

The random lag is in iOS 9.0 (on a 6+). Don't know what causes it, but it will spike out of the blue into a lag fast. And then it goes away. One time CC and proactive just went bananas. Rebooting the phone didn't help. I had to reset all settings to get it to settle down.

 

[duffman9000]

Yeah most everyday people who thought iOS 8 was as fast as iOS 6 will see no difference. The rest of us who have eyeballs that work will notice there virtually ZERO metal optimization. A few things are faster on iPad Air 2 but seriously I dont think the random stutters will ever go away. EVER. Unless they stop with all the blurring effects everywhere.

I don't understand why the blurring seems to be so resource intensive. We see this after Apple proclaim a desktop class SoC. A desktop class SoC that struggles with a blurring effect.

 

[teknikal90]

Thats BS. Any marketing person worth anything should at least have a beneath the surface understanding of the products the company makes. Let alone working for the most valuable company thats supposed to hold their employees to a higher standard.

Someone working in Apple marketing who doesn't know what RAM is .....DISTRUBING.

Read. I said they wouldn't know what the ram is. ur how much it has.
They also probably don't know how to code for swift, theyre marketers not technical guys.

 

[SHNXX]

The random lag is in iOS 9.0 (on a 6+). Don't know what causes it, but it will spike out of the blue into a lag fast. And then it goes away. One time CC and proactive just went bananas. Rebooting the phone didn't help. I had to reset all settings to get it to settle down.

iOS 9.0 lags like hell on iPhone 6 too.

 

[sanke1]

Unless, of course, you're just making things up. My Air 1 ran the same on iOS 8.x as it did on 7.x. So, between QuarterSwede, you and me we've got three different experiences with the Air.

This was opposite for me and most MacRumors members who found out Air 1 being rendered near obsolete with constant Safari tab reloading and general UI stutter with iOS 8. Just tap on Safari address bar and see how keyboard with fancy translucency struggles to come up. In iOS 7, it was a smooth 60 fps animation. But with iOS 8, the same animation runs at 10-15 fps. Face it that Air 1 was an underpowered device, even though Apple parroted that it's graphics performance was superior to iPad 4.

 

[canesalato]

This was opposite for me and most MacRumors members who found out Air 1 being rendered near obsolete with constant Safari tab reloading and general UI stutter with iOS 8. Just tap on Safari address bar and see how keyboard with fancy translucency struggles to come up. In iOS 7, it was a smooth 60 fps animation. But with iOS 8, the same animation runs at 10-15 fps. Face it that Air 1 was an underpowered device, even though Apple parroted that it's graphics performance was superior to iPad 4.

IMHO the Air 1 sucked also on 7! It was
decent just in the few months of iOS 7.1 but still reloaded tabs and apps like crazy.
Than 8 came and it was back to a sad state.
At the time I was constantly attacked on macrumors when I shared my frustration.
- the fact that a MINORITY of people are having problems doesn't mean that the problem is real.
- My Air runs perfectly.
- buy a samsung
- you restored from a backup and you dare to complain? Set it up as new, (loose your data) and it will be perfect (for a couple of days).
- 1gb or RAM more than enough.
- hard reboot
- restore from DFU
- don't use OTA
- reset network settings
- just reduce transparency noob!
- 2gb of RAM would destroy battery life.
- you are just a spec junkie, experience is what matter (WTF)
- RAM is not the problem, safari is just not optimized on iOS 7.0, use a third party browser and wait for 7.1/8.0/8.1/8.2/8.3/8.4/9/9.1
- you'll see that I'm right when the Air 2 comes and it will still be with 1 gb of RAM
- hater


Well...I think we should all be more more critical and buy what we really feel is a good BALANCED device. In iOS history the were new high-end devices that were slow or unbalanced from the start. And they were never 100% perfect, even with the first iOS version they came with
iPad, iPad 3, iPad Air, iPhone 6 plus.
iPad 3, for me, was well worth the tradeoff because I really wanted that great retina display. iPad Air...not at all! My solution for the iPad Air problems was called iPad Air 2.

 

[CB1234]

Just like 8.0 GM was released and 7.0 GM was released.

I wish we could copy/paste thread of when iOS 7 and/or iOS 8 released, and comments that followed from all the pissed off people.

Just need to find a way of replacing iOS version with iOS 9, and voila you will have a thread which will look similar in a few weeks time !!

 

[lewy]

iOS9.1 on 5S it's a big laggy disaster...

 

[newellj]

This was opposite for me and most MacRumors members who found out Air 1 being rendered near obsolete with constant Safari tab reloading and general UI stutter with iOS 8. Just tap on Safari address bar and see how keyboard with fancy translucency struggles to come up. In iOS 7, it was a smooth 60 fps animation. But with iOS 8, the same animation runs at 10-15 fps. Face it that Air 1 was an underpowered device, even though Apple parroted that it's graphics performance was superior to iPad 4.

I did not notice any big difference between 7 and 8. FWIW, I keep "features" like translucency turned off.

 

[TommyA6]

I did not notice any big difference between 7 and 8. FWIW, I keep "features" like translucency turned off.

Well yeah. If you turn translucency off, everything is smooth and fast. However, the OS looks ugly then.
Translucency and all the blurring effects are the main culprits for all the stuttering and lag.

 

[cynics]

Ummm......the writing is on the wall when people are saying 9.1 is almost as good as 8.4.1 which was never silky smooth.

I'm thinking the same thing. The bar has been dropping and we are getting used too it. iOS 8.4.1 was never a mile stone for smoothness, far from it in fact.

Find out in a few hours I guess...