It's getting very easy to tell who's used both ICS and iOS. Those that haven't will cling onto the failings of Android from yesteryears.
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Certainly. They've done an AMAZING job with Android. But fair is fair. Google > Apple in web technology (looks at my Chrome browser) but Apple can do things with graphics that only Adobe can outdo. The Retina Macbook Pro is a prime example. Few companies could make it work which is why they haven't tried.
Apple has many disciplines that they are strong in that come from being a platform vendor for desktops. Look at Microsoft's phones...they show the same prowess in handling graphics and GPU compute resources.
Google, being a web company, just doesn't have that experience and it shows. They have to toss a lot of HW at their OS to get it to perform. If Apple delivers a smaller iPad it'll be a dual core that is more responsive than a Nexus Quad. Bank on it.
Technology is always improving. Currently Apple is a market leader in mobile computing and in some aspects leading the way when it comes to new technologies. It's not that other compainies can't do things like the Retina Display, they just haven't yet. Apple has poured R/D into that area and reaped the rewards.
They've also fallen behind in the desktop market (Mac Pro I'm looking at you). Is that related to their focus on mobile? I don't know, I don't work for Apple.
Adobe makes software. They are not the only ones able to match Apple's graphical prowess. They're not related.
In regards to IOS and Android, I think it has more to do with the fundamental differances between the two OS's and what they are trying to acheive than Apples employee's superior coding ability.
Apple engineers the hardware and supllies the OS.
Google cooperates with other companies to produce their hardware and developes open source software.
There are advantages and disadvantages to each.
They've also fallen behind in the desktop market (Mac Pro I'm looking at you). Is that related to their focus on mobile? I don't know, I don't work for Apple.
Adobe makes software. They are not the only ones able to match Apple's graphical prowess. They're not related.
In regards to IOS and Android, I think it has more to do with the fundamental differances between the two OS's and what they are trying to acheive than Apples employee's superior coding ability.
Apple engineers the hardware and supllies the OS.
Google cooperates with other companies to produce their hardware and developes open source software.
There are advantages and disadvantages to each.
I've used countless android devices, I work for a major carrier and get easy access to all new devices, but always went back to whatever jail broken iPhone I had at the time. I sold my 4S a couple weeks ago after having used my One X for over a month now and can't really see myself going back to ios permanently, especially with the big disappointment that iOS 6 was. The far superior notification system and easy customization of android has gotten me locked in and it's finally polished enough to match iOS IMO. I still love my iPad though and can't see switching from that any time soon. Competition only benefits us all and hopefully Apple takes the android threat more seriously as they continue to close the gap and go back to innovating in the mobile space instead of trying to litigate away their problems.
i have had the 3G and iPhone 4...
i might actually give the S3 a shot when my contract expires.
really...comparing it now is too hard. its about user experience and personal preference. if someone likes android...good for them. if someone likes iOS...good for them.
to each his own
i might actually give the S3 a shot when my contract expires.
really...comparing it now is too hard. its about user experience and personal preference. if someone likes android...good for them. if someone likes iOS...good for them.
to each his own
People don't buy based on a feature list they buy based on ease of use.
Android simply isn't going to be either Microsoft or Apple. Eventually both companies will leverage the respective platforms and Android will have the web and that's about it.
No worries, I will. I know what these phones can do... you know... cause I actually own them and use them.
I do enjoy posts by people like you though. It's like the kool-aid drips from your posts with the sheer amount of ignorance. I particularly enjoyed this bit from you:
google wants to do everything for people, rather than just back up and let the apps do the work? Really?
I actually laughed at this statement. 1. I think you need to learn about open source and oem UI's. 2. Android is about having choices and NOT have everything done for you. I know you have become one of Apple's assimilated drones, but even you should know this. 3. You basically just called every Apple user an idiot. Great job.
Nice off topic post. What you are referring to is technology retarded consumers. This thread is dealing with which is better, so those consumers should not be taken into account, as they don't care, just so long as facebook and youtube work.
I think it's a good thing that Google made Jelly Bean 4.1 and not 5.0. I can see how people are upset with Apple naming iOS 6 as "6," but compared to the Android update, it's a little bit more significant. Both OS updates feature improved UIs and stability and all the other basics. Jelly Bean didn't add anything new (except for Google Now, which looks awesome but creepy,) they just changed some stuff. I'm not saying this is bad, ICS was alright and Jelly Bean is just building off of it.
Although iOS 5 and iOS 6 aren't immediately different to the user, I think iOS 6 deserves to be called iOS "6." Dumping Google Maps is a big deal, especially since Apple's creating their own Maps.app from the ground up. Passbook has a lot of potential (much more useful with NFC in the next iPhone, I'm assuming.) Say what you will, but iOS 6 really does feel like a new OS. It feels snappier and more intuitive.
Whether you love them or hate them, these OSes are both fantastic. And many people are upset that Apple and Google didn't offer more. Google's planning something fantastic for Android 5.0, they're just preparing it with JB. Apple updated their OS (maybe not worthy of a whole 1.0 OS update, but I think it's because they just wanted to keep things simple with their OS updates and naming) and I'm looking forward to iOS 6 because I know it'll be great.
You'll see, iOS 7 and Android 5.0 are going to be huge updates. Both companies are just setting up for them.
Although iOS 5 and iOS 6 aren't immediately different to the user, I think iOS 6 deserves to be called iOS "6." Dumping Google Maps is a big deal, especially since Apple's creating their own Maps.app from the ground up. Passbook has a lot of potential (much more useful with NFC in the next iPhone, I'm assuming.) Say what you will, but iOS 6 really does feel like a new OS. It feels snappier and more intuitive.
Whether you love them or hate them, these OSes are both fantastic. And many people are upset that Apple and Google didn't offer more. Google's planning something fantastic for Android 5.0, they're just preparing it with JB. Apple updated their OS (maybe not worthy of a whole 1.0 OS update, but I think it's because they just wanted to keep things simple with their OS updates and naming) and I'm looking forward to iOS 6 because I know it'll be great.
You'll see, iOS 7 and Android 5.0 are going to be huge updates. Both companies are just setting up for them.
Awesome, another post by you calling Apple users morons.
So no one buys a phone based on anything but ease of use? Your ignorance is boundless.
What features would iOS require to be a worthy 6.0? Widgets? Bluetooth and Wifi toggles? Cold fusion?
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication"
Reminds me of when Android users try to show me swype. I then grab my phone. Hit a button and dictate a paragraph of text with punctuation. Then I just look at them and they get the point without me having to say another word.
I remember trying to use an Android phone a while back and it was a terrible experience. But, things are looking better than ever and it's good competition. The only thing I am afraid of is if I buy a phone with Jelly Bean on it, and Android comes out with another OS update, when will I be able to get my hands on it. I know a lot of people that are still waiting for ICS to come to their devices. That's one of the major setbacks I see with Android phones.
No this is patently false. It was the consumer that realized that the Mac was a big deal with a GUI and mouse and keyboard input. Geeks at that time were crowing about command line. Which paradigm became the standard?
Intelligence is not in how you manage to work around obstacles it's in working to ensure those obstacles no longer exist.
Like my swype scenario. Why would someone take the effort to learn a new way of using a keyboard over using the very power they've had for 95% of their life. Speech.
Technology is cool but in the end it must be relevant and even pragmatic for the masses to utilize it.
Always used Apple products, however JB 4.1 looked very very good. I am not a Fan boy of either; just a general end user but did preorder the Nxus7 today.
I could also say iOS features < Windows Mobile 5.0 features (released in 2005)
Apple will always be behind in a straight features list comparison, it's not their focus. I could do pretty much everything today's Android phones do, on my 2005 Windows Mobile device, doesn't mean I want to use it
All you have to do is be an informed consumer with the know-how to flash software onto hardware and you will be absolutely content with Android phones. ICS can easily be had on MANY handsets. It's just that some manufacturers out there aren't doing their jobs.
The only people who are upset with Android are the people who have an Apple mentality about their gadgets. They want the almighty Google to do everything for them, even with the fact that Android is on hundreds of devices now while Apple only ships out a single handset every year. Those people are going to sit there for a long time because they're too scared to actually be independent and use the tools provided by their open-source community for their handset, provided that they didn't cheap out and got something nice like an HTC One X.
With open-source software, you have to be a man and do some things yourself. The jailbreakers here know what I'm talking about to some extent, while the helpless non-jailbreak iOS users out there simply have no clue.
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So, you are showing off technology that Android had for quite some time, and according to Gizmodo, outperforms Siri? Great "demo" there. Android users can Swype and dictate a paragraph of text.
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I could also say iOS features < Windows Mobile 5.0 features (released in 2005)
Apple will always be behind in a straight features list comparison, it's not their focus. I could do pretty much everything today's Android phones do, on my 2005 Windows Mobile device, doesn't mean I want to use it
I owned 3 Windows Mobile devices. And this post cannot be further from truth.
The Nexus line directly addresses this problem.
The Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus Tablet launched today and the rumored 5 Nexus phones to be released at the end of the year will all receive updates directly from Google.
Even the Nexus One that was pulled from receiving an ICS update because it's hardware was a bit **** by then received official updates for 22 months so you're almost certain to receive Key Lime Pie (or whatever it is called) and possibly the next release as well.
If you're really keen to get updates quickly you can flash the latest version the moment it's released by Google instead of having to wait for an OTA update.
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We've discussed this in the other thread, man. You know exactly what people are asking for.
Stop acting like a Apple shill.
Forgot the naming and numbering aspect for a second and just look at how the overall ui looks similar for both updates. I don't know what google has planned, but I won't be surprised even if their next update doesn't change the ui much. Google in the past overhauled their os with each update because they had to. Android was not where they wanted and was not on the level of ios. Now that it has developed into its own, I don't doubt google will also just refine for the next little bit. Apple seemed to have gotten it right off the bat and have continued to just add to it.
Even windows, for ui purposes only, largely looks very similar to what they already had.
Even windows, for ui purposes only, largely looks very similar to what they already had.