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The opposite is the case for me. I have a pretty massive circle when considering friends and family and I don't know a single person that uses Whatsapp, even among those that hate Apple and refuse to use iPhones.
What do people who don’t use iPhones or WhatsApp use??
 
Mind the gap, I honestly cannot think how this got through. My best guesses would be:

1 - It is an underlying restriction with springboard that they cannot overcome easily
2 - They think it is a good design choice
3 - It was too much work to make the page symetrical or have the gap at the top instead
4 - It actually is symetrical when you account for the dock and dead space we already have at the bottom for gestures
5 - They think everybody has 5" thumbs and has no problem reaching up further to do anything

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Because that itty bitty red dot NEEDS that space!/s
 
I agree with everything you said and I still prefer to use iOS over Android, and that's coming from someone who used the S21 Ultra for 2 months and thinks it's the best phone I've ever used.
Same. I agree completely with the gripes/issues highlighted in the OP, but I still prefer iOS to Android. It probably won't stop me from going back to Android again, as I usually try it out every few years, but I always end up back in the Apple ecosystem.
 
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The problem is Apple have tried to shoehorn in so many features and extras that it has become necessarily complex.
The problem is that Apple started off with a very basic concept; This is a phone, and each app is a self-contained silo.

A decade later, that paradigm doesn't hold up, but in order to fix it, now, with millions of legacy apps, would require the type of effort that Microsoft puts into making Windows backwards compatible, and Apple just isn't like that.

It's funny, I completely agree with the OP, but for completely different reasons.

A decade ago or whatever, I was happily using Windows Phone 7. Facebook and Twitter were integrated directly into the phone, and the photos app had a stream of images pulled from Facebook, Twitter, the camera roll, and probably any app that would choose to plug into the framework. It was a cohesive, integrated experience. Asking Cortana for directions to the nearest Starbucks just worked, and would bring up the maps app with directions pre-populated. It was, in short, really cool.

But Windows Phone disappeared, and I had to move on. I picked up an iPhone, and while I didn't particularly like the silos that are each app, there were apps, and I was happy enough.

But that was 6 or 7 years ago. Since then iOS has added features, like Siri became usable, live tiles widgets were added to the home screen, as well as an all apps list, and the UX got a facelift. But it's still the same underlying OS as it was a decade ago, and quite frankly it's boring. Which wouldn't be a problem if it worked, but it doesn't. It has a random bug here or there, and I'm not happy with it. I don't love it. In some cases, I actively dislike it.

So many decisions just scream "We won't do this because we want you to buy another Apple product" and it's getting old. Why can't I determine the battery life of my headphones on my mac? I guess if I have airpods it doesn't matter. And I can't keep the time on my lock screen, but if I have an Apple Watch it doesn't matter. etc., etc., etc.

Apple holds its users in contempt, and the only reason they have the market share they do is because there's nowhere else to go.
 
And as I said it slowed down. Always, after installing new update iphone (11 PM) works great. Then, after 2 days it slows down. I dont know why are they doing this but is 100% intentional. And I am dissapointed.
 
And it's crazy for us europeans how dependent you are on iMessage. It's rarely used here in Germany.
True. I am also from Europe and plenty of my friends have iPhones and they all use WhatsApp and Instagram. No one really wants to use iMessages. I've tried to convince people to use iMessages, but they all say: "I prefer WhatsApp".
iMessages and FaceTime is only an American thing. Europeans would be like: "Let's use WhatsApp" and some of are like: "Oh, you wanna video call? Wait, I'll download Skype"
 
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The opposite is the case for me. I have a pretty massive circle when considering friends and family and I don't know a single person that uses Whatsapp, even among those that hate Apple and refuse to use iPhones.
That's because you're from the US. In Europe both people can use iPhones and Macs but they'd still stick to WhatsApp.
 
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True. I am also from Europe and plenty of my friends have iPhones and they all use WhatsApp and Instagram. No one really wants to use iMessages. I've tried to convince people to use iMessages, but they all say: "I prefer WhatsApp".
iMessages and FaceTime is only an American thing. Europeans would be like: "Let's use WhatsApp" and some of are like: "Oh, you wanna video call? Wait, I'll download Skype"
True, but I wish more people would use Telegram or Signal.
 
what a bizarre claim

Well you dont feel it I do. I am not saying that my phone is laggy or something. But I can feel it, especially after 15.20 days. But ok, I see it is forbidden to talk about ios being slow over time or delayed notifications with apple watch.
 
Over recent years I have usually owned both a droid and an iDevice and switched betweem them, usually that meant most time on the iPhone but over recent years that balance has shifted towards android and it got me thinking as to why that happened. iOS has always frustrated a little from the uniform home screen that you cannot change (better now but still not great) to the bluetooth audio being constrained to 250kbs, no always on display or the 2 stage unlock process that was a step back speed wise from a FPS and is even more annoying with a mask added into the mix.
I have far less experience than you with iOS. Historically I have been an Android user. I got my first iOS device in 2018. Currently I am all iOS because both my personal and my work phone are iPhones. That being said there are things that I appreciate more in Android than iOS. I got iPhone 12 Pro because I needed camera features and well I do not like Samsung and do not find them reliable long term. I have good experience with Android, just not with Samsung.

That being said regarding audio - I cannot comment what is the experience with Airpods because I do not own Airpods or Airpods Pro or Airpods Pro Max. I do own Sony XM3 and LDAC is real. And the experience you get with LDAC with Android (Sony phone) is just better than what you get with the same headphones on iOS.

- Notifications are terrible and badges are buggy. Notifications have never been great on iOS and it has always been the case that clearing the notification and associated badge requires 2 steps but the badges are infuriating and on a daily basis now I go into the app to I think clear the badge only for it still to be there when I exit the app so it is a case of rinse and repeat :mad:
Agree. Notification management on Android is better. I actually turn off Notifications on iOS. Especially badges because those are annoying. And btw the chance of you triggering Notifications when you want Control Center is big.
- The general UI is buggy. With a full home screen if I want to move an app about or move an app from the app library into a folder on my home screen then EVERY time the bottom right app on the home screen moves to the 2nd page and I have to move it back manually.
Oh yeah. So many bugs. I do not install major iOS version right away. I always wait at least 2 months for my company to test the software. And still I am plagued with bugs. It is like talent. I am at point where I prefer the no updates policy from Android than the constant bugs with every version that Apple takes a year (sometimes even more) to fix.
- Accessing control centre and switching your phone off still feels way more complicated than it should andf if I take another accidental screenshot trying I might just lose it!
I hate that I trigger Notifications when I want the Control Center and vice versa. Like why?
- Maybe it is the lack of a high refresh rate, maybe over-bearing animations or just the OS in general but it all feels so slow too. Now I know the current iPhones are the very opposite of slow and benchmark off of the charts but in general navigation I think they feel it, almost like scrolling through treacle at times.
I confirm it is slower. Reloading tabs in Chrome on Android is faster than reloading tabs in Safari on iOS. I also had better experience with RAM management on my Sony phone (4GB RAM) compared to the iPhone. I don't know how Sony does it but is just better. I compare it to the iPhone 8 I have because both phones are 2017 models. iPhone has 2 GB RAM, Sony has 4 but hey they were flagships at that time. And honestly the Sony phone handles things better. Now of course the Sony is slower than my 12 Pro but that is to be expected.
Not intending to inflame just curious to see if it is only me who feels this way??
One thing I was quite surprised when I started using iOS are the claims that iOS just works and is intuitive. Neither is true for me. Quite often iOS just does not work the way I expect it to work (gestures come to mind where I trigger the wrong gesture every day numerous times). And it is not intuitive. Settings is a mess IMO. And I also see a lot of fragmentation with some settings being in the Settings app, others in the apps themselves. It really is way too complicated.
 
How? Upper right corner is control center, anywhere else is notification center.
On an iPhone upper right corner and mid corner for me is almost the same :). So I have to be precise to the millimeter to not trigger Notifications. It really is annoying for me.
 
Well you dont feel it I do. I am not saying that my phone is laggy or something. But I can feel it, especially after 15.20 days. But ok, I see it is forbidden to talk about ios being slow over time or delayed notifications with apple watch.
It’s not “forbidden” to do anything, but you just implied that Apple are intentionally slowing your phone down after two days (!) without any explanation what you’re on about. Why would they do that?
 
I'm actually pretty upset that the big reveal for the Apple watch u locking your iPhone is just wear the I watch and it will unlock your iPhone automatically. I'm thinking it was so new tech3but they just just bypassed the lock screen using the watch.
 
It’s not “forbidden” to do anything, but you just implied that Apple are intentionally slowing your phone down after two days (!) without any explanation what you’re on about. Why would they do that?

I said phone slowes down for some reason. It isnt SLOW SLOW, but it isnt same as it is after installing new update. Nevermind…
 
I'm well impressed with iOS 14.5 on my iPhone 11. It feels slightly faster and snappier. Not come across any bugs yet either.
 
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