iOS5 Vs ICS

[blancoBronco]

People who say this are really grasping for straws. You do realize that every phone can be reset without having a password to unlock it.......whether it's locked via pin, pattern, or face....they aren't necessary to be able to use the phone. Not to mention you are ASSUMING you can use a picture to unlock it, you don't even know if that is really the case. If you like your iphone that's great, but why the need to try to minimize another phone's release to make you feel better about your phone?

terrible wasn't the best word. idk what would be but that's beside the point. i'm not "minimizing" its release, i'm giving my opinion of it, which i am entitled to. i think it's not that amazing of a feature. you're right that we don't know if it can be unlocked by a picture, but we don't know that they've done something to prevent it, so my guess is just as valid. and that's just one aspect of ICS that doesn't impress me

 

[thenerdal]

terrible wasn't the best word. idk what would be but that's beside the point. i'm not "minimizing" its release, i'm giving my opinion of it, which i am entitled to. i think it's not that amazing of a feature. you're right that we don't know if it can be unlocked by a picture, but we don't know that they've done something to prevent it, so my guess is just as valid. and that's just one aspect of ICS that doesn't impress me

Unlocking without even having to touch the screen isn't amazing? :S That's like saying voice recognition isn't amazing.

 

[takeshi74]

It depends on a person preference.

^ This.

people always talk about how bad apple fanboys are, but everybody seems to forget about the android fanboys.

Fanboys are bad no matter which camp they're in. Again, IOS versus ICS is a highly subjective matter. It's only fanboys that assume that their preferences are universal and that no one could possibly have different reasons for selecting a different solution. It's only fanboys that think that a product that they bought really says something meaningful about them and that they're somehow better just because they bought option A instead of option B.

Unlocking without even having to touch the screen isn't amazing? :S That's like saying voice recognition isn't amazing.

Again, subjective. I have no use for either. YMMV, of course. Stop assuming that what you find amazing (or any of your preferences, for that matter) is universal.

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

terrible wasn't the best word. idk what would be but that's beside the point. i'm not "minimizing" its release, i'm giving my opinion of it, which i am entitled to. i think it's not that amazing of a feature. you're right that we don't know if it can be unlocked by a picture, but we don't know that they've done something to prevent it, so my guess is just as valid. and that's just one aspect of ICS that doesn't impress me

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[aztooh]

No it wasn't....that was honeycomb...you're about a year behind.


If you don't want to use the data usage feature you don't have to...who's making you? Personally, I think it would be useful to be able to alert myself when I use a certain amount of data.


If you don't like the analog clocks...THEN DON'T USE THEM....don't like the widgets or backgrounds? ...DON'T USE THEM.....there are plenty of other clocks, and widgets, and backgrounds....who's forcing you to use those?

iNuts don't like choices.

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Actually the home screens are extremely nice and I very rarely find myself going into the app tray anymore. Most of the apps I use on a regular basis have a widget that give me all the info I need. ESPN, don't have to launch the app, I can scroll through all my favorite teams scores for that day without having to launch an app. AP, Facebook, Weather, Stocks, Twitter, ect. 3 pages that all look the same with 16 apps per page gets old quick (for my taste).

I don't get why so many people try to minimize the usefulness of widgets. It's what I miss the most from using Android. The scorecenter you mentioned, google voice/sms widgets, contact shortcut widgets...all very useful to me and a lot of other users

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

iNuts don't like choices.

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I don't get why so many people try to minimize the usefulness of widgets. It's what I miss the most from using Android. The scorecenter you mentioned, google voice/sms widgets, contact shortcut widgets...all very useful to me and a lot of other users

Simple matter of, "Don't knock it till ya try it". Love ESPN and Google Voice widgets.

 

[gdeputy]

I came away impressed, seriously considering keeping my ip4 and buying the nexus to get a taste of android. I don't use many apps on my phone that wouldn't be suited really well for a widget, social apps sports scores calls SMS ect.

Love love love ios5 but also for a long while I've felt iOS could use some flair and a bit of a redesign.

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

Apple will announce at the WWDC 2012. "We've taken widgets, and made them better, now you have 4 to choose from."

 

[thenerdal]

Again, subjective. I have no use for either. YMMV, of course. Stop assuming that what you find amazing (or any of your preferences, for that matter) is universal.

I'm talking about as a feature. I don't care if you won't use it.

Same thing can be said about Siri, a lot of people won't use it. But it's a good feature.

Sheesh.

 

[kashik]

I streamed the event on my laptop here, and I have to say it was pretty impressive. I've been with Apple so long that I'm finding myself getting bored of iOS. I have 5 on my phone, but it just doesn't seem to do it for me. ICS on the other hand looks new and fresh, while also seeming to borrow from Mango's playbook. Without the iPhone 5, I'm ready to check out what the majority of the market use.

The standout feature I saw was the Android Beam. That looked too cool. When they shared the map between phones, that got me. There's a clip of the demonstration of the Android Beam here: http://www.engadget.com/video/
Reading about it just doesn't do it justice.

So I've got about a year to test out the Android waters before the iPhone 5 comes out, right? Well I'm going to take full advantage. The pool just got a whole lot deeper.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Actually the home screens are extremely nice and I very rarely find myself going into the app tray anymore. Most of the apps I use on a regular basis have a widget that give me all the info I need. ESPN, don't have to launch the app, I can scroll through all my favorite teams scores for that day without having to launch an app. AP, Facebook, Weather, Stocks, Twitter, ect. 3 pages that all look the same with 16 apps per page gets old quick (for my taste).

I have 94 apps all on one home screen divided into 15 folders, I can see most of my apps by just glancing at one home screen. Widgets are nice, but I'm not into widgets for every little thing. Plus most apps send notifications. Usually if I get notified and unlock soon after, it goes right into the app that just notified me. As far as Weather and Stocks go, Notification center handles that well, and I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more added to it, including sports from either ESPN and/or Yahoo.

Also from my experience with Android, depending where your widget is, it could take more swipes and/or scrolling to locate a certain widget than it would take to just tap an app an have it pop right up.

It really depends on what a person's true taste is .......... but there are too many variables to say that one way of doing things is quicker or slower than the other. Personally for me, I get things done quicker on iOS.

So I've got about a year to test out the Android waters before the iPhone 5 comes out, right? Well I'm going to take full advantage. The pool just got a whole lot deeper.

This is why I need to win the Lotto. So I can play with the newest Android phone every two weeks.

 

[Savor]

I am pretty excited about getting Ice Cream Sandwich because I hope it can make Android alot more stable. I think some of the UI tweaks are things we can already do with customized launchers. I am already happy using something as minimalistic and stable like Zeam. Reality is, you can always make a stock OS look and run better with custom tweaks. That is the beauty of Android and iOS when rooted/jailbroken. There is an app called Barrel in Cydia that make your iPhone look cool with its transitions.

Hope in this ICS update, I can get back the trackball wake for my phone. It stopped working after the Gingerbread update. I just got my brand new Nexus One yesterday and want to protect the power button as much as I can and as long I can. The No Lock app and the Screen Off and Lock work great though.

I can have both iOS5 and ICS, so I could less about a subject that will likely get unnecessary dislikes and breeds biased fanboy talk. I don't care to say one is better than the other. They are both nice treats for both fans of the OS. Like Halloween candy. You don't sit there and compare them.

 

[sentinelsx]

This phone interests me deeply to abandon the iPhone, to be honest.

But i am quite angry at google not taking controls of the platform. Just look at HTC's recent announcement, what a load of BS. They are going to take months to tweak sense into the beautiful ICS to make it horrible to make their phones "different". Ugh.

I could still escape that using this phone though. I hope all the apps work however. In my experience there is always some app that works on one and doesnt on other.

IMO android needs a standard and fast. I would switch in a heartbeat then. All phones from all OEMs should be like the Nexus, running stock ICS. Just like all WP7 phones run stock WP7. Stop the stupid skinning and "customization" and leave the end user to install a launcher etc if they want to.


Excellent phone and great update, but as a platform it needs to be unified to lure me in

 

[boss.king]

This phone interests me deeply to abandon the iPhone, to be honest.

But i am quite angry at google not taking controls of the platform. Just look at HTC's recent announcement, what a load of BS. They are going to take months to tweak sense into the beautiful ICS to make it horrible to make their phones "different". Ugh.

I could still escape that using this phone though. I hope all the apps work however. In my experience there is always some app that works on one and doesnt on other.

IMO android needs a standard and fast. I would switch in a heartbeat then. All phones from all OEMs should be like the Nexus, running stock ICS. Just like all WP7 phones run stock WP7. Stop the stupid skinning and "customization" and leave the end user to install a launcher etc if they want to.


Excellent phone and great update, but as a platform it needs to be unified to lure me in

I agree. TouchWiz, Sense, Motoblur, and whatever the SE phones use need to go. They were nice when Android was still an ugly baby, but it's grown up now. ICS looks good, and with a bit of input/insiration from HTC, Moto, etc, the next version could be absolutely beautiful while still staying stock. If I ever got another Android phone I'd go for one from the Nexus line up.

 

[onthecouchagain]

This phone interests me deeply to abandon the iPhone, to be honest.

But i am quite angry at google not taking controls of the platform. Just look at HTC's recent announcement, what a load of BS. They are going to take months to tweak sense into the beautiful ICS to make it horrible to make their phones "different". Ugh.

I could still escape that using this phone though. I hope all the apps work however. In my experience there is always some app that works on one and doesnt on other.

IMO android needs a standard and fast. I would switch in a heartbeat then. All phones from all OEMs should be like the Nexus, running stock ICS. Just like all WP7 phones run stock WP7. Stop the stupid skinning and "customization" and leave the end user to install a launcher etc if they want to.


Excellent phone and great update, but as a platform it needs to be unified to lure me in

Agreed. Though you could just stick to the Nexus line. That's what they're basically for: the pure Android OS as it is meant to be. Lately, Nexus phones seem to be reaching all/most carriers.

 

[sentinelsx]

I agree. TouchWiz, Sense, Motoblur, and whatever the SE phones use need to go. They were nice when Android was still an ugly baby, but it's grown up now. ICS looks good, and with a bit of input/insiration from HTC, Moto, etc, the next version could be absolutely beautiful while still staying stock. If I ever got another Android phone I'd go for one from the Nexus line up.

Yep. If i choose android i will never buy a skinned and bloated phone no matter how godly the specs are (I am looking at you SGS2). Nexus line is the reason i keep my interest in android. I hope one day google either switches to just producing Nexus only or gives the ultimatum to OEMs to run stock or suffer from a "not so open android to skin" anymore.

Just give the end user the ability to do whatever they want with the OS and tell the OEMs to ****. Android phones would sell a lot more.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Engadget demos the face unlocking: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/ice-cream-sandwich-face-unlock-demo-video/

It's impressive.

 

[Vegastouch]

If it's anything like the Xbox 360 face recognition then its a failure from the start.

Yes because Google has everything to do with XBox

 

[aaronchow]

Don't forget that Matias Daurte is working with Google now. Look at what he's bought to Android after being there for merely a year. And the data management tool is something that iOS users can really benefit in.

 

[yodaxl7]

For those who have had a chance to see Google's live presentation, what's your early take based on what you saw today? I must say, I'm quite amazed it was that good and feature packed. Just when you thought notifications couldn't get any better, ICS proves you wrong. Love Android BEAM!!! And so many here say, who needs NFC. That's one really COOL and PRACTICAL reason right there.
Disclaimer: Not looking to hear about how any OS (regardless of which one) sucks.

It's neat, but how's it is useful not sure. There was this Bump app that available on both ios and android that do the same thing. Face recognition is flaky and gimmicky. I had this old Asus laptop that did that. It worked for a bit then had this driver issue and so forth. ICS appears to be honeycomb with some added features. I think Froyo was android's best so far. I noticed how they try to pretty up the os. It is not as good as ios 5. Although, not bad if you are in Google's sphere! Plus, I am so happy with ios that android will be of an interest to me, unless, apple go crazy.

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The feature itself is amazing. How could you not be impressed? I'd be impressed with facial recognition as a feature itself. We don't know if Facial Recognition on ICS will detect faces only and not pictures. Don't jump to conclusions please.

How about a bad day where you zits on your face or sunburn? What if you look different because you got the flu? Or got into a wreck and your face is messed up? can't call 911!

 

[sentinelsx]

Well for me the decision was between 4S and Nexus since i refuse to buy skinned and bloated handsets. 4S wins because for better camera i need to buy an SGS2 which alone isn't enough justification, and the weaker GPU means high res 720p gaming isn't going to be so great. Personal preference of course.

This annoys me a lot. I had the N1 and skipped NS and now i guess the GN. N1 was far better than any android or iOS device at the time of coming out but subsequent launches seem to hint if we want better we need to get a skinned and bloated handset. And i will never buy that.

This is why stock ICS should be the only OS allowed on all androids. Easy way to steal market share from Apple for google yet they keep blissfully ignorant of the side-effects of their open source direction (OEMs get total freedom, end user gets some freedom and crappy experience).

 

[yourmother]

After watching the video I have to say I am pretty impressed with Ice cream sandwich. When I took a quick glance work I was disappointed with the Galaxy Nexus because the specs werent too different from the S2 besides the screen.

However the actual OS is pretty sweet. It took a lot of good things from other OS's like windows phone metro and the new google people app, and webos like swiping to kill an app. And the data manager is a great way to see what is taking up your mobile data bandwidth.

Still I think 2 BIG questions come up when comparing it iOS. MUSIC and backing up the phone. Anyone who has used android has faulted the music app and management and for myself I love how if I restore my 3GS or get a new iphone or ipad i just plug it into itunes and it has everything is the way it looks from the previous back up. Games are exactly where I was before, call history, photos, etc and its as easy as syncing to itunes. I know google will back up all my google stuff and reload my apps but not to the detail as a simple itunes backup.

 

[Picka]

Must say that looked very impressive. Looking forward for the SGS2 getting it.

iOS5 is already behind despite coming out a few days ago. Unlocking the phone with Face recognition and it's so fast aswell. Beam is just a great way of sharing information with someone next to you. The voice recognition seems to be even better than before, and so many little refinements to core apps.

Android is looking sexier by the day

 

[ripper998]

Guess I don't get droid

Beam is just like bump app
New font as a bigg feature???
Facial recognition looked neat, and has potential
The other stuff IOS has

Happy for the droid folks but doesn't sway me from 4S

 

[barnetty]

I consider myself one of the Apple Fanboys and have no trouble saying it but I am very subjective when it comes to products.

I once myself decided to leave my dear iphone and went Galaxy S for a while and can say i enjoyed it a lot for about 6 months until i started to get really fed up with it and went back to iphone and have never looked back.

I can truly say that ICS definitely looks good and appealing specially if you still don't own a smartphone or are easily swayed by new shiny things that move and look pretty. I accept that things like FACE DETECTION is although unnecessary a cool feature that most will never use but it still looks and sounds cool. Same for the app drawers and popup stuff on your home screen that look pretty good.

Unfortunately after myself owning an Android Samsung phone i can say that whenever i see all this stuff...widgets...multiple screens...clocks...drawers...etc. all i see is BATTERY DRAIN....all i see is people running around with multiple batteries or buying those huge bulky batteries off Ebay that give you extra juice in order to allow all this running stuff in the background. This is one of the reasons i like Iphone...although many here complain of battery problems the lack of all this stuff just working all day at the same time makes a huge difference for battery life.