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iPad 4 Vs Nexus 10
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Bottom line : you are correct as far as Plants vs Zombies go. Its not supported for 10.1" tablet use on Android. And that includes the N10. I could pull the apk file off the web and install it but its a paid app and I don't want to pirate it.
Little skin off my teeth because I don't play those kind of games. But if that kind of stuff is important too you then you will prefer iOS. Everything I had on my previous tablet is working great. Games from Nintendo 64 and PlayStation are as smooth as butter. On my Xoom even GoldenEye on N64 could get a little bit stuttery, with the N10 even Gran Turismo with the track full of cars is as smooth as silk.
If you guys have something you want me to check out to compare let me know.
Little skin off my teeth because I don't play those kind of games. But if that kind of stuff is important too you then you will prefer iOS. Everything I had on my previous tablet is working great. Games from Nintendo 64 and PlayStation are as smooth as butter. On my Xoom even GoldenEye on N64 could get a little bit stuttery, with the N10 even Gran Turismo with the track full of cars is as smooth as silk.
If you guys have something you want me to check out to compare let me know.
Maybe I'm just not picky but I didn't see a problem with any of the screen shots. Yes, one looks a bit better compared to the other but I wouldn't consider the N7 or wherever the pic is coming from bad looking.
I think my biggest issue with Android, especially tablets, is so poor app quality is. I can't begin to count how many of my friends picked up a cheap Android tablet and trash the iPad because it costs so much more. The apps are complete junk, no where near as good as iPad apps.
And another issue that can be brought up is that tablets are mostly media consuming devices, but Android, itself, is poor at media consumption. The built-in audio/video player is terrible and there is native software to manage music from your computer, like iTunes. Not to mention, syncing between OS X and Android is horrible. Android File Transfer NEVER works with my S3.
iPad excels in media consumption with iTunes, etc and if you download DIVX/MKV files off the internet, there are tons of apps in the app store that can play them. iOS has class-leading media management and works seamlessly with iTunes. Show me any Android tablet that can do that.
The Nexus 10 seems like a pretty good device, but I won't buy an Android tablet any time soon. The Nexus 7 is pretty much a pile of crap. Most Nexus 7 owners also have a 4+ inch Android phones. The "jump" between them isn't too much. There isn't a huge difference in web browsing, etc. But the jump from ~4inch to 10 inch is significant for both media and internet.
And another issue that can be brought up is that tablets are mostly media consuming devices, but Android, itself, is poor at media consumption. The built-in audio/video player is terrible and there is native software to manage music from your computer, like iTunes. Not to mention, syncing between OS X and Android is horrible. Android File Transfer NEVER works with my S3.
iPad excels in media consumption with iTunes, etc and if you download DIVX/MKV files off the internet, there are tons of apps in the app store that can play them. iOS has class-leading media management and works seamlessly with iTunes. Show me any Android tablet that can do that.
The Nexus 10 seems like a pretty good device, but I won't buy an Android tablet any time soon. The Nexus 7 is pretty much a pile of crap. Most Nexus 7 owners also have a 4+ inch Android phones. The "jump" between them isn't too much. There isn't a huge difference in web browsing, etc. But the jump from ~4inch to 10 inch is significant for both media and internet.
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Thanks for the laughs man... oh wait... you were serious??
I'm not gonna even bother proving all you have said is completely wrong...
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Thanks for the laughs man... oh wait... you were serious??
I'm not gonna even bother proving all you have said is completely wrong...
Yup, I'm blowing a bunch of smoke right?
I actually own most of these devices, so I don't talk out of my ass, like Apple fanboys here
It's interesting that you see iTunes as a positive towards the ipad series. I'd hate to have a tablet (which is supposed to be a "post-pc" device) which requires iTunes to live. It underminds it's authority as a device in its own right.
Wow, what are you talking about? Ever heard of Google Music?
There is not much difference between a 4" phone and a 7" tablet?
Really? Then why all the whining here by iFans about phones getting too big, 4" is perfect, phablet this, too big that.......Oh wait i know, because they dont agree.
iTunes isn't need for the iPad to live... It's there if you want it.
You must mean the terrible music service that barely works and takes days for part (20,000 max right?) of your music collection to upload into the cloud.
There is not much difference between a 4" phone and a 7" tablet?
iFans are idiots. 4 inches is too small these days, for a phone. They're too hung up on their beloved old iPhones.
My Galaxy S3 is approaching 5 inches (4.8). The Galaxy Note 2, I ordered (and then returned, but that's a diff't issue), is 5.5. The jump from 4.8/5.5 to 7inches isn't big enough to justify a Nexus 7. It barely makes a difference for internet surfing or media consumption. 9.7+ inch tablets are better, such as the non-mini iPad. (But of course, that's my opinion. The idiots who are too hung up on having a cheap $199 tablet will disagree with me)
iPad is superior in every way. Battery life, power, apps, screen quality (contrast, saturation etc), build quality, customer service, stability, gaming and the cloud.
Not sure about the cloud but ill never fill up 20,000 songs on it and it works good for me. Only thing i dont like is the free music it gives me. Most of it i dont like...thus why ill never fill up 20,000 songs. Im picky what i want on there. Not to mention, that is A LOT of music that ill never get thru.
In anycase, i prefer a MicroSD card in my phone.
The Note 2 is much bigger than the GS3 imo and it is very noticable. The Note for me is too big. So yes i think a 7" tablet is even bigger but at least i wont be carrying that around as a phone in my pocket.
Price has nothing to do with it. Whether i have a iPad Mini or a Nexus 7, they are both much bigger than the GS3 and the Note2.
Only difference in the mini and the N7 is a back camera. Oh and about $130.
Please... Please...
How in the world is the iPad a better media device when it has problems to play any other format apart from .mp4? Today I tried an .avi and it would only play correctly on some apps, which brings me to my next point:
To play the same video file in three different apps you need to copy the video three times using the "open in" option, which, if I'm not mistaken, what it does is copy the video file to the new app directory. And you have to do this over and over and over again with any new app!!
On Android I click the video file and select which app I want to use, or simply open any video app and the file is already there because all apps can search automatically for video files in the file explorer and find them.
How is the iPad a better media device when you can't play HD videos on any YouTube app? Tried today on iPad 3, choose 720P on McTube or something like that and it didn't play in HD.
How is the iPad a better media device when you can only use Apple's music app to listen to your music? On Android I can choose lots of apps and they all show my music library just like iTunes would, with my artists, albums, songs, etc. All automatically.
How is the iPad a better media device when you can't send a video file or song to another iOS device or even another device with a different OS? All your media is locked in your device. I can send a video or song to another device via Bluetooth, NFC, Wi-Fi, DLNA, USB, etc.
I can even download subtitles from the web and put them on a video in less than a minute. Try doing so on the iPad and tell me how it goes............ "open in", "open in"... A OS that treats people like idiots, like we didn't know in 2012 how to use a computer...
Oh... and what if your away from your home computer and don't have access to your iTunes library? What if you are in a friend's house and have to sync with another empty library because he doesn't use iTunes?
And then nexus 10, as many other Android tablets, has micro HDMI, so I can play a movie, game or whatever on a friend's house, because everyone has a TV with HDMI, but not everyone has an Apple TV. Maybe if you buy that expensive Apple adapter that costs like 5 times what a HDMI cable costs...
Yeah... iPad is better at media consumption.......... in what world do you people live in? Ahh yes... in Apple's fairy land, where they brainwash everyone...
All you people saying iPad is better at media consumption need to stop being delusional! Please...
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At least AutoUnion39 was speaking from the position of actually having experience with the products he was criticizing, rather than this fandroid dribble.
iOS hasn't had serious issue playing alternative file types for years. There are tons of video player apps available that play nearly every format imaginable, and can pick up those files from almost any location, including streaming over the network from a file share, etc. The fact that there is no direct file system access is known; you only make yourself look foolish by pointing that out as there are plenty of ways around that. In practice, it's of little consequence.
Again, for music, there are all sorts of apps available. It's probably less common to choose an alternative app on iOS because, you know, every iOS device is ALSO an iPod, you know, the device that overwhelmingly owns the music player category. When you already have the best audio player ever made integrated into your device most people aren't going to spend much time looking for an alternative except to meet a particular need, or to be contrary like yourself. You might ask yourself why it is that I see so many people with Android phones pull out an iPod to listen to their music on...
I have never personally had a large desire to send media from one device direct to another, but I expect that again, there are ways that aren't all that difficult. This largely sounds like another 'spec-sheet' argument to me. Sure, those Samsung commercials make it look like you just need to tap phones to share media, but knowing what I know about wireless bandwidth, I'm not dumb enough to believe transferring anything is instant. Not to mention that I don't know that I've ever seen two people with modern Samsung Android phones together in the real world, let alone two who would want to share media.
Again, those video players that can play any format can also download subtitles, same as you.
Syncing with alternative iTunes libraries to move media to apps has not been a problem for a couple of years now, not to mention all the other ways to get media on to these devices. Try again.
Great, a Nexus 10 has hdmi. Except on many tv's it doesn't pass sound, and on all tv's it leaves black borders around the vast majority of content.
You'd be a lot better served here on these forums to stick to talking about things that you know about. You are making the very simplistic mistake that your very elementary knowledge of a platform like Android makes you some kind of genius. It doesn't. In technology, the hard part isn't making a product do some particular operation or task that fills out a spec sheet, it's making the complex simple; THAT'S what takes real effort.
I still prefer my N10 to my iPad 3, hell I preferred my Xoom to my (now gf's) iPad 3. It just does what I need it to do better for me.
USB hosting is probably my main thing. If the iPad ever gave me that then it would really narrow the gap. I use a tablet as a media center/player to my HDTV. So I need to plug in peripherals. I need it to show a mouse pointer on the screen. I could always use airplay but then I need to be holding a delicate tablet vs a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse I can throw around, toss to friends, etc
File system is very important too. And a device that knows what to do with files. Plenty of times I've had a bunch of random files I needed to send for work. It's very simple to zip them and send the zip via email on android.
As much as I like to debate iOS vs Android I'm really not to serious. Whatever works best for the end user is the best, currently for me that's Android. There might be a day that changes however I think if I do change my opinion it will be for a windows tab. Not yet though.
USB hosting is probably my main thing. If the iPad ever gave me that then it would really narrow the gap. I use a tablet as a media center/player to my HDTV. So I need to plug in peripherals. I need it to show a mouse pointer on the screen. I could always use airplay but then I need to be holding a delicate tablet vs a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse I can throw around, toss to friends, etc
File system is very important too. And a device that knows what to do with files. Plenty of times I've had a bunch of random files I needed to send for work. It's very simple to zip them and send the zip via email on android.
As much as I like to debate iOS vs Android I'm really not to serious. Whatever works best for the end user is the best, currently for me that's Android. There might be a day that changes however I think if I do change my opinion it will be for a windows tab. Not yet though.
And that's the bottom line isn't it? What works best for you is all that matters. I laughed when I read the N7 was a pile of junk. That's the persons opinion, nothing more. I own both iOS and Android tablets and I think both platforms are awesome.
I own and love the N7, and seriously considering the N10.
Well that certainly is just your opinion. It isnt the best in mine. There are other music players in Android that are better but thats me. In the end it doesnt really matter.
So you dont know is what your saying. So who is talking about things that dont really know about? And just because you dont do it, doesnt mean others dont. I have and doing it with NFC is fast and easy. No it isnt instant but pretty close. Longest it took me to transfer anyting was 20 seconds for a 12 minute video. Thats pretty fast.
So just like the commercials, once you touch them together, it makes that beep and starts tranfering so yes, that is how it works. Photos are pretty much instant. Music takes a few seconds depending on how big a playlist is or if it is a single song. Again, the 12 minute video took a whole 20 seconds.
Again, you also should be better served to know what your taking about.
Dumb statement. You havent seen it, so it doesnt happen, ever. Gotcha! Yep, practice what you preach.
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For music quality alone the iPod devices are average at best. Now if you want to add all the features like playing games etc, then they're not bad. I would never buy any iPod devices because it's all about music for me and the iPod's don't deliver.
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I've had an iPhone and iPad for over two years and an iPod touch for three... I guess I don't know the platform at all... haven't you seen my signature where all my devices are listed including an iMac and Mac mini?
Having all those Apple devices I must be crazy to criticise Apple... well, only iOS... since it has become a toy OS.
I know my experience, which is that video playback is not great on iOS devices. Just yesterday I downloaded a TV episode in .avi using the Downloads app, which works also as a media player, and it played the file horribly, with lag. I had to use open in to transfer the file to Oplayer, which played the file better, although not perfectly still.
Is this what you call acceptable? Having to use an app to download a video, which cannot be done in the background, and then waiting two minutes for the file to copy to another app so in the end you have the same file twice and you have to go back to the other app to delete the file and.............
I can do all this in less steps in my Android phone, thanks to the fact that I can download anything from the web, leave it downloading in the background and then finding the file with a file browser and using a better video player app.
At least I've tried both iOS and Android and I know which is better at what, and clearly iOS will never be better at media.
Oh... and I'm not a fanboy, fandroid or whatever. I'm simply a tech fan. I don't care about wars between OS or companies... please...
Trust me the difference between my 4.65 inch galaxy nexus and my nexus 7 is huge. You guys talk about how much bigger the ipad mini extra .85 inches is but suddenly the almost 3 inch difference between the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 is not big. And to call the nexus 7 a a piece of junk. That couldn't be further from the truth. Media management is nothing special in iOS. Android tablets sync with any program that supports mtp including windows media player (one click syncing). It also works with non mtp programs and you can also manually drag and drop files onto it. I actually like windows media player as its not a bloated program that takes forever to launch. You also can use google play music as well which works extremely well. Not to mention the cirrus chip in the ipad, iphones, and ipods is pretty mediocre. Its no where near the level quality the original galaxy s, galaxy SIII, galaxy tab's, nexus 10's, and many other android device's wolfson chipset produces. Even the galaxy nexus's TI chip is better than the cirrus chip in the iDevices. Most people on here do not like iTunes. Don't pretend do. They are just forced to use it.
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I didn't hold in my hand one of them but I saw many reviews and it seems the iPad wins.
The nexus is a nice device but google actually has nothing to sell in tablets in my opinion besides the nexus 7 maybe (only because it's cheap and does the job of getting content).
I wouldn't invest in Nexus 10 even if it's cheap for 10 tablet with that screen you can't compare it to iPad yet.
The nexus is a nice device but google actually has nothing to sell in tablets in my opinion besides the nexus 7 maybe (only because it's cheap and does the job of getting content).
I wouldn't invest in Nexus 10 even if it's cheap for 10 tablet with that screen you can't compare it to iPad yet.
The nexus 10's screen is pretty much undisputely better the retina screen in the ipad.
How is it terrible? I'm using it now on my laptop, my daughter is using it in her room on her laptop, my son is using it in his room right now on his nexus 7, and my wife is using it right now as she's driving around with her phone hooked to the radio aux jack. Any lag that it used to have is fixed.
The initial uploading is a bit slow depending on how many songs you're uploading. When I first started using it and had to upload somewhere around 1200 songs, it took a few hours to upload them all. But after that it's quick to upload. Yesterday I added another 26 songs to my music directory on my laptop which then the music manager automatically uploaded them to Google music; it took all of around 3 minutes.