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Funny you mention that.

I recently won an iPad whose iCloud lock was enabled, which, admittedly, I knew little about. I was discouraged reading comment after comment that Apple would not undo it. I decided to visit my local Apple Store anyway. I was initially told that nothing could be done, but the store's manager was kind enough to unlock it for me since it wasn't registered as stolen. Now I have a fully functioning iPad at a fraction of the cost.

It never hurts to try.

Story doesn't add up.
1. Why would a contest offer a locked iPad? Why didn't you take it up with whomever provided it to you?
2. fraction of what cost? you claim you won it.
3. To my knowledge Apple doesn't keep a list of stolen device serial numbers.
 
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Story doesn't add up.
1. Why would a contest offer a locked iPad? Why didn't you take it up with whomever provided it to you?
2. fraction of what cost? you claim you won it.
3. To my knowledge Apple doesn't keep a list of stolen device serial numbers.

Good points. And let me add that a store manager shouldn't be able to unlock an iPad that has been locked down due to activation lock. I don't even know if Apple headquarters can do it, for that matter.
 
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I myself own an iPad and brought an iPAD from a Pawn Shop they put on the receipt AS IS, they knew of the activation Lock and I didn't see the AS IS, I have a proper receipt. The Pawn Shop won't get in contact with the owner and Apple won't unlock it. Those who are calling everyone thieves are wrong, and the system is very flawed. This protocol doesn't really help anyone. Actually it's a ploy to get people to have to buy a new product because of Apples greed. I know this because one of the Apple reps said the Pawn Shop shouldn't have sold it to me because they are not an authorized Apple reseller. I've been using Apple products since 1995 since that time I've paid more than 30k for apple products I've had just about every computer model made at some point. 3 iPads and 6 iPhones. This problem is enough for me to never buy an apple product again.
 
Good points. And let me add that a store manager shouldn't be able to unlock an iPad that has been locked down due to activation lock. I don't even know if Apple headquarters can do it, for that matter.

First off, I don't claim this happened, it did. I called Apple's customer care line prior to visiting the store and was told that an unlock wouldn't be possible. The sales associate initially reiterated this, but he consulted a higher-up, and she unlocked it for me. She may have been a manager or just a supervisor -- it didn't matter to me so long as she could activate it. I was quite surprised, but pleasantly so.

You can believe whatever want, but this did happen, sure as I'm writing this post with said iPad. My entire point was and is: it never hurts to visit the store and ask. The worse they'll do is refuse.
 
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I myself own an iPad and brought an iPAD from a Pawn Shop they put on the receipt AS IS, they knew of the activation Lock and I didn't see the AS IS, I have a proper receipt. The Pawn Shop won't get in contact with the owner and Apple won't unlock it. Those who are calling everyone thieves are wrong, and the system is very flawed. This protocol doesn't really help anyone. Actually it's a ploy to get people to have to buy a new product because of Apples greed. I know this because one of the Apple reps said the Pawn Shop shouldn't have sold it to me because they are not an authorized Apple reseller. I've been using Apple products since 1995 since that time I've paid more than 30k for apple products I've had just about every computer model made at some point. 3 iPads and 6 iPhones. This problem is enough for me to never buy an apple product again.

It's Apple's fault because you bought an iPad from a pawn shop and didn't bother to read the receipt or even check to see if the iPad was operable?

Wow.
 
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Actually it's a ploy to get people to have to buy a new product because of Apples greed.

It is up to the customer of a used item to make sure the activation lock is disabled before completing the transaction. If the buyer does their part they are not "left with a paper weight."
 
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First off, I don't claim this happened, it did. I called Apple's customer care line prior to visiting the store and was told it that an unlock wouldn't be possible. The sales associate initially reiterated this, but he consulted a higher-up, and she unlocked it for me. She may have been a manager or just a supervisor -- it didn't matter to me so long as she could activate it. I was quite surprised, but pleasantly so.

You can believe whatever want, but this did happen, sure as I'm writing this post with said iPad. My entire point was and is: it never hurts to visit the store and ask. The worse they'll do is refuse.

As far as I know, store managers to not have the authority (or indeed the technical capability) to do this.

Heck, they can't even service a phone until you disable FMI either through the device or website.

To all those saying "we're not thieves, etc" - buying a stolen phone/iPad is as good as stealing one in my eyes. For what other reason would a Pawn shop sell an iPad with activation lock unless it was stolen? or why wouldn't the seller of your "used" iPhone not have the password to remove the lock?
 
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Joanna can u please let me know how did u end up bypassing ipad 2 ? i am really stuck

Joanna can u please let me know how did u end up bypassing ipad 2 ? i am really stuck

I just wanna share this and maybe it could help you. But please bare with me coz I'm not good at written instructions. I've had the same problem with my iPad 2 for over 2 months. i forgot the answers to my security questions and my apple id was disabled and i thot resetting it would clear the applw id but i was wrong and got stuck on the activation lock. So I've decided today to get my iPad and mess with it a little bit to see if there is a way that I could bypass the activation code. It was a success and I was surprised coz I've done a lot of searching and I found nothing at all. I know how frustrating it is so this is what I did. *pick language *location/country When I get to the "network selection" option I just selected a text and try to bring it to the copy/cut/paste/define mode ,then I chose define .after that the manage or search web option popped . What I did is I chose "manage" and there are multiple languages that has the icloud download icon, so I tapped multiple languages to download over and over ,locked the screen and unlocked it back then after doing that the screen shuts off (slightly like it'll stop to work)and it brought me to the home screen of my iPad. And I've bypassed the activation code. So there you go . Please let me know if it helped you too. Best of luck... Cheers...
 
As far as I know, store managers to not have the authority (or indeed the technical capability) to do this.

Heck, they can't even service a phone until you disable FMI either through the device or website.

To all those saying "we're not thieves, etc" - buying a stolen phone/iPad is as good as stealing one in my eyes. For what other reason would a Pawn shop sell an iPad with activation lock unless it was stolen? or why wouldn't the seller of your "used" iPhone not have the password to remove the lock?

Out of curiosity, do you work for Apple?

It's understandable to think otherwise, but not every iCloud-locked device is stolen. Mine was NOT. The seller bought this from the original owner, who apparently forgot to turn off "Find My iPad." The lock was activated when he upgraded to iOS 7. He contacted the original owner but with no success. Hence why he auctioned this on eBay. I placed the final bid thinking the iCloud lock could be overwritten.
 
Out of curiosity, do you work for Apple?

It's understandable to think otherwise, but not every iCloud-locked device is stolen. Mine was NOT. The seller bought this from the original owner, who apparently forgot to turn off "Find My iPad." The lock was activated when he upgraded to iOS 7. He contacted the original owner but with no success. Hence why he auctioned this on eBay. I placed the final bid thinking the iCloud lock could be overwritten.

You don't need to work for Apple to read public statements put out y Apple and news articles outlining how activation lock is supposed to work. I don't know what happened in your case, but if all you need to overcome activation lock is to walk into an Apple store and convince someone to remove the lock, then that defeats the purpose of having it in the first place. Apple stores shouldn't have the technical capability to override activation lock, and if they do, then Apple has seriously misrepresented how activation lock works.

That said, I do agree that not all devices locked with activation lock are stolen or lost. It's very easy for a person passing on an iOS device to forget to remove the lock, and for subsequent people who legitimately came into possession of the device to have no way to contact the original owner. I always thought activation lock would cause more problems than it solves. It doesn't really help reunite owners with lost / stolen devices, and it leaves many innocent people who legitimately bought used iOS devices with bricked devices.
 
That said, I do agree that not all devices locked with activation lock are stolen or lost. It's very easy for a person passing on an iOS device to forget to remove the lock, and for subsequent people who legitimately came into possession of the device to have no way to contact the original owner. I always thought activation lock would cause more problems than it solves. It doesn't really help reunite owners with lost / stolen devices, and it leaves many innocent people who legitimately bought used iOS devices with bricked devices.

Short story:

Found a used iPhone online for my girlfriend, to tide her over until the next release. Met seller for exchange. Soon realized the model wasn't as advertised. 4S was actually a 4. Contacted seller. Seemed apologetic. Made plans to meet the following day. Didn't happen. Things went further downhill from there.

The phone was also still Activation Locked. Against my better judgement, I failed to confirm it wasn't when making the exchange. I've tried contacting the seller, but haven't received a reply. I've managed to reach the home screen (via a youtube instruction) of the device, in hopes of getting into the FaceTime app and finding the iCloud registered email of the previous owner. Sent that owner an email. Went unanswered.

Meanwhile, the phone has sat here for weeks. Bricked. As I've been busy with work, I've yet to setup another "appointment" with the seller, in which things are expected not to go in their favor.

The latest news of a bug in iOS 7, that allows users to bypass the activation lock and disable Find My iPhone, doesn't seem to do me well as I cannot even open the settings app to begin the method given.

I’ve been posting here for years. My personal info is readily available. I'm not a thief. Ironically enough, I’m trying to combat the result of being taken by one.

BTW, any information that leads to getting this issue resolved would be appreciated.

:apple:?
 
I am lost and fail to see how this is Apples fault? Should it be the retailer/pawn shop to tell the person who is selling the iPhone/iPad to turn off the activation lock? Shouldn't this prove this is a legit sale then? I'm sorry, if you fail to do this, this is your fault.
Also wouldn't a sign saying "unlocked iPhone/no activation locked" sell for more money anyways?
 
First off, I don't claim this happened, it did. I called Apple's customer care line prior to visiting the store and was told that an unlock wouldn't be possible. The sales associate initially reiterated this, but he consulted a higher-up, and she unlocked it for me. She may have been a manager or just a supervisor -- it didn't matter to me so long as she could activate it. I was quite surprised, but pleasantly so.

You can believe whatever want, but this did happen, sure as I'm writing this post with said iPad. My entire point was and is: it never hurts to visit the store and ask. The worse they'll do is refuse.

Which Apple store?
 
I placed the final bid thinking the iCloud lock could be overwritten.

So you bought it knowing that it was locked. The low low auction price was too hard to resist I'm guessing? Sorry but the blame falls squarely on you then, not Apple.
Are you gonna be temped by this scam artist above me, lose more money and then blame Apple for that too?

EDIT: scam post gone. Person above not scammer. :p
 
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Im new to this forum. I joined afrer seeing this thread and wondering why people must make statements when they don't have the information needed to be accurate.

It has long been a requirement in the US that ANY and ALL software encryption, block, password program etc. developed and consequently used here, be accessible to law enforcement with proper authority. In other words, if a law enforcement agency contacts Apple with a activation locked device and a search warrant for its contents, Apple must make the information contained in the device available to that said agency. Period, it is not a guess or an opinion, this is factual.

Now I have no idea who in the Apple chain of employees gets to do it, but it gets done. Since the device is evidence, chain of custody is required and therefore the evidence cannot be mailed off to a secret or special Apple location. The law enforcement agency maintains control of the evidence and an authorized Apple employee performs the unlocking.

Aside from that, any encryption software any of you use, unless you created the encryption yourself (in other words its not encryption software you bought in the US) all law enforcement has all encryption keys needed to decrypt it. That is a requirement in the US for any company that develops such encryption.

In closing, yes, there will be "someone" at your local Apple store that with proper authorization, a warrant, will bypass activation lock. Will they bypass the lock without a warrant for someone? Be realistic, that individual is a human being and therefore, they can if they want to regardless of Apples policy. I doubt it happens with any frequency, I am sure Apple has controls in place to monitor any bypass and that likely requires submission of the proper authorization paperwork, the warrant.

This ios7 lock IS a good idea. Be smart, dont buy an apple device from a non apple seller unless you have return policy in place in case you are locked out.
 
In closing, yes, there will be "someone" at your local Apple store that with proper authorization, a warrant, will bypass activation lock.

Just because there are some Apple employees somewhere who can unlock activation-locked iPhones and iPads in response to a government warrant, it doesn't necessarily follow that such employees can be found at any local Apple store. What makes you think so?
 
Because every Apple location that has a service department has that ability. This is not something that is done for the public, and as such, the standard answer when someone asks is no, we aren't able to do that. You can forget about walking into an Apple center and getting them to unlock it for you.
 
I don't work for Apple so I am sorry, but I cannot provide you with "proof" as you would like.

I can tell you that if we present ourselves to any Apple location that has tech service onsite, and we have a activation locked ios7 device with a corresponding warrant for access to the contents, they will unlock the device.

You can choose not to believe it, but having had 3 devices unlocked under court order at 2 different Apple locations, I speak with firsthand knowledge.

If you want to see in writing how manufacturers are required and mandated to do this, use Google and do your research. I am not doing it for you.

Anyone with any degree of knowledge in software tech, knows it is unrealistic to think that Apple service is unable to unlock a device blocked via their own software/firmware.

Take it as you wish.
 
I can tell you that if we present ourselves to any Apple location that has tech service onsite, and we have a activation locked ios7 device with a corresponding warrant for access to the contents, they will unlock the device.

You can choose not to believe it, but having had 3 devices unlocked under court order at 2 different Apple locations, I speak with firsthand knowledge.

Ah. That was what I was looking for. You know this because you've done it. Got it, thanks.
 
It seems like every day there is a new activation lock bypass thread on these forums.

If it was so easy to do, there wouldn't be all these threads, there would be a post with a method. The fact is, it's not an easy thing to do.

I've searched the interwebs high and lo, and even though the Activation Lock is easily bypassed on iPhones running iOS 7.x, I cannot find a solution for the iPad. Any ideas?

Thanks.

I also really don't believe that it is easily bypassed on 7.1, a higher iOS than 7.0.x. What is your source for that?

You know why you have searched the internet high and lo looking for a way to bypass the activation lock? Because only 2 people know how to do it. ih8sn0w can do it, and one person solved his r0bf0rdsn0w activation lock april fools thing. No one else can do it around these forums. Apple stores may be able to do it under warrant. But the odds of an average jo getting a warrant for some random device are next to 0.

Your best bet is to stay away from activation locked devices.
 
We found an iPad on a plane when we transferred flights when we checked the pocket halfway home. When we got home, we contacted the airline in order to give our information to pass along to anyone reporting an ipad missing on that plane.

So you found an iPad on a plane and took it home to try to find the owner. Instead of handing it to one of the perhaps half dozen staff members on the plane.

Not only does that story come off as fishy, in some areas that is considered theft. A lesson learned by Brian Hogan when he took home a phone he found at a bar instead of giving it to that staff.

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I was initially told that nothing could be done, but the store's manager was kind enough to unlock it for me since it wasn't registered as stolen.

No he didn't. Store managers don't have access to any kind of a system to unlock such devices. What he likely did was retail swap the device against policy to be nice to you.

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Good points. And let me add that a store manager shouldn't be able to unlock an iPad that has been locked down due to activation lock. I don't even know if Apple headquarters can do it, for that matter.

HQ can do it but they have a very strict protocol, requiring several bits of validation paperwork etc. It's not something you can just call up and do it. And it won't happen right away.

Stores can't do it. Comes up all the time when folks bring in dead phones etc. If find my is on, no repairs or replacements can be done. Yeah they get that it's your kids phone but he created an iCloud account and unless you know the info nothing is happening today. Sure you can talk to the manager but he can't do anything. My BF goes this several times a day.

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Our local cops had to take an iPhone to Apple headquarters to try to get it unlocked.
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/police-went-to-apple-offices-to-access-rob-ford-friend-s-iphone-1.1743787

Totally different system. That was an activated phone with a passcode lock.

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I am lost and fail to see how this is Apples fault? Should it be the retailer/pawn shop to tell the person who is selling the iPhone/iPad to turn off the activation lock?

It's not Apple's fault. Except in the eyes of the folks that want to believe everything is Apple's fault.

The pawn shop should know their business and not taken it, the buyer should know what they are buying and not bought if without checking. That both failed is not an Apple issue.

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Im new to this forum. I joined afrer seeing this thread and wondering why people must make statements when they don't have the information needed to be accurate.

Ironic comment since you are just as guilty.

Activation lock is not anything to do with what hat the rest of your comment was about. The laws you are talking about, the requirements you talk about, are for a totally different situation.

Now I have no idea who in the Apple chain of employees gets to do it, but it gets done.

And yet, despite having 'no idea' you presume to say, with confidence, that someone at any store (and every store) can do this.

No one at a store level is going to be able to remove activation lock, or the passcode locks that are what your comments are talking about. Why not? Well with activation lock it defects the point of the system if store managers can override it. For passcode lock remove at the behest of law enforcement that is a legal issue and stores don't have the authority to handle such issues. The only people at Apple legally authorized to handle such issues is at the corporate level.

Advice to a newbie, before you start going on about how non newbies are saying things they know nothing about, at least make sure you're on topic. Oh and if you are going to say something is the law, it never hurts to include the code or case law reference to back up that you know what you are taking about.
 
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Activation lock nonsense .....

Here's my take on it.

The activation lock is good in THEORY, but would be far more practical if Apple allowed a "self service" method of unlocking it. Maybe something like confirming some of the initial purchase information online against the product serial number?)

I've got an iPad here right now in our company where the user tied it to her Find My iPhone and iCloud accounts. The employee was terminated and now I discovered the iPad is useless. Tried to contact her via her personal gmail account to explain what I need, but she refuses to respond. (Not surprising since she didn't leave on good terms.)

Clearly, this iPad is company property and not stolen ... but it was purchased by a different office, in another part of the country, so I don't have easy access to the sales receipt. (For that matter, I'm not even sure if we ordered this one from Apple direct, or from a vendor like CDW -- because we've done it several different ways over time.)

I understand that now, Apple is pushing use of the MDM software to centrally manage the devices from the day they're first issued. Great -- but you couldn't even specify a PIN to override the lock until the very latest revision of iOS. So that left a long gap where corporate users were left hanging ..... And even now, we try to use Apple's MDM software and find it really buggy. It's always hit or miss if it will cooperate and pull up a web page when I try to enroll a new device from it, and until version 3, it had issues even syncing properly with our Active Directory.

This stuff simply wasn't thought out well enough and it feels like Apple's rushing, now, to offer more acceptable solutions where they failed initially.
 
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