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The MBA can be purchased for less than the cost of most of the iPads with comparable storage + Apple keyboard case. If you shop around, you can get a new M2 MBA for $899. When use a keyboard case, the iPad almost weighs the same as the MBA....and the screen is smaller. For most office work, home and student requirements, the MBA is just better IMHO. My kids just finished college and the most essential tool was their base model MBAs. My son graduated in May, and he didn't even have or want an iPad. He read and marked all of his documents on the MBA. No problem whatsoever. So, the iPad wasn't essential for him. However, he would have really suffered without a good laptop.
To complete the MacBook offer that could replace any iPad Pro portability needs, a 12” MacBook would be neat. Maybe Apple is afraid of cannibalizing iPad Pro sales? Maybe, but they have always stated that their Mac, iPad and iPhone teams compete against each other to offer the best product, so…

I wish we could have a smaller, and most importantly, lighter MacBook Air. I wouldn’t sell my iPad Pro, though. For certain academic tasks the iPad is more convenient than a Mac, unexpectedly.
 
To complete the MacBook offer that could replace any iPad Pro portability needs, a 12” MacBook would be neat. Maybe Apple is afraid of cannibalizing iPad Pro sales? Maybe, but they have always stated that their Mac, iPad and iPhone teams compete against each other to offer the best product, so…

I wish we could have a smaller, and most importantly, lighter MacBook Air. I wouldn’t sell my iPad Pro, though. For certain academic tasks the iPad is more convenient than a Mac, unexpectedly.

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To complete the MacBook offer that could replace any iPad Pro portability needs, a 12” MacBook would be neat. Maybe Apple is afraid of cannibalizing iPad Pro sales? Maybe, but they have always stated that their Mac, iPad and iPhone teams compete against each other to offer the best product, so…

I wish we could have a smaller, and most importantly, lighter MacBook Air. I wouldn’t sell my iPad Pro, though. For certain academic tasks the iPad is more convenient than a Mac, unexpectedly.
I think Apple doesn't know how to price such a device to make sense financially for them. They know there is a demand and that they are leaving some money on the table, but they don't want to make a cheaper Macbook air. Back in 2015-2017 it was easy. The cheap model was the old design. So they could price the Retina Macbook at $1300 base model and make good money. Now it's harder. It would definitely sell at that price, but how do you price is on par with the 15* model... Logically it should be priced $999, which Apple just does not want to. And they cannot make it a pro either... So they just give up...
Personally I keep my 2017 one for home use, but for on the go I use a (under 1kg) Thinkpad nano (with cellular), and when it's time to replace it I'll move to a even better cellular HP Dragonfly, which has battery life on par with the M1 Macbook and weights 1kg (and has touch). They are expensive as 14" Macbooks pro but are the best of any world for OS agnostic people....
 
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I think Apple doesn't know how to price such a device to make sense financially for them. They know there is a demand and that they are leaving some money on the table, but they don't want to make a cheaper Macbook air. Back in 2015-2017 it was easy. The cheap model was the old design. So they could price the Retina Macbook at $1300 base model and make good money. Now it's harder. It would definitely sell at that price, but how do you price is on par with the 15* model... Logically it should be priced $999, which Apple just does not want to. And they cannot make it a pro either... So they just give up...
Personally I keep my 2017 one for home use, but for on the go I use a (under 1kg) Thinkpad nano (with cellular), and when it's time to replace it I'll move to a even better cellular HP Dragonfly, which has battery life on par with the M1 Macbook and weights 1kg (and has touch). They are expensive as 14" Macbooks pro but are the best of any world for OS agnostic people....
Yeah, pricing such device would be difficult, because as you said, a smaller MacBook should be priced cheaper than the 13.6” MacBook Air…

There was a recent rumor about Apple considering making a “low cost” 12” MacBook, maybe with older SoC, older specs, or worse display… but honestly if I buy a MacBook I want the latest, most efficient technology available at the moment.

The other path is pricing it at $999 and rise the price of the 13.6” to its original price.
 
Yeah, pricing such device would be difficult, because as you said, a smaller MacBook should be priced cheaper than the 13.6” MacBook Air…

There was a recent rumor about Apple considering making a “low cost” 12” MacBook, maybe with older SoC, older specs, or worse display… but honestly if I buy a MacBook I want the latest, most efficient technology available at the moment.

The other path is pricing it at $999 and rise the price of the 13.6” to its original price.
to be honest it's understandable that none of these options make financial sense for Apple, so us fan of the 12" MacBook should problably just accept it won't happen (hopefully my maxed out 12" MacBook will last many more years)
 
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to be honest it's understandable that none of these options make financial sense for Apple, so us fan of the 12" MacBook should problably just accept it won't happen (hopefully my maxed out 12" MacBook will last many more years)
Is your 12” MacBook eligible for Somoma?
 
Yeah, pricing such device would be difficult, because as you said, a smaller MacBook should be priced cheaper than the 13.6” MacBook Air…

There was a recent rumor about Apple considering making a “low cost” 12” MacBook, maybe with older SoC, older specs, or worse display… but honestly if I buy a MacBook I want the latest, most efficient technology available at the moment.

The other path is pricing it at $999 and rise the price of the 13.6” to its original price.
Increasing the 13" M2's Air's price means that all the other laptops would increase in price; Apple dropped its price so they could hit their 15" target price. What Apple could to is replace the 13" M1 Air with a 12" M1 Air.
 
Increasing the 13" M2's Air's price means that all the other laptops would increase in price; Apple dropped its price so they could hit their 15" target price. What Apple could to is replace the 13" M1 Air with a 12" M1 Air.
very unlikely they put M1 in a new device. And again Apple is unlikely to sell a current 12" Macbook for cheaper as they know it would cannibalize higher priced model, while a more expensive 12" would still sell to those looking for a ultra light Macbook, but again it's too tough to justify in the current line...
 
The MBA can be purchased for less than the cost of most of the iPads with comparable storage + Apple keyboard case. If you shop around, you can get a new M2 MBA for $899. When use a keyboard case, the iPad almost weighs the same as the MBA....and the screen is smaller. For most office work, home and student requirements, the MBA is just better IMHO.
This makes sense provided one wants a laptop. For those that desire the tablet experience the (more expensive in some configurations) iPad is the way to go. Writing and drawing with the Apple Pencil, editing vertical photos in full screen and playing keyboard music without having to plug in external hardware are things that my MacBook Pro (as powerful as it is) will never be good at. The iPad can do all of these in addition to office, home and student work (although for those tasks I DO reach for my MBP when I at home and not traveling).
 
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The MBA can be purchased for less than the cost of most of the iPads with comparable storage + Apple keyboard case. If you shop around, you can get a new M2 MBA for $899. When use a keyboard case, the iPad almost weighs the same as the MBA....and the screen is smaller. For most office work, home and student requirements, the MBA is just better IMHO. My kids just finished college and the most essential tool was their base model MBAs. My son graduated in May, and he didn't even have or want an iPad. He read and marked all of his documents on the MBA. No problem whatsoever. So, the iPad wasn't essential for him. However, he would have really suffered without a good laptop.
However… you can’t remove the screen from the MacBook without voiding its warranty.
 
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However… you can’t remove the screen from the MacBook without voiding its warranty.
Well, yes, but if you are using your iPad as a laptop replacement (title of this thread) then you probably have it in a keyboard case, and it will weigh about the same as an MBA......perhaps more. Compare the weight of the 12.9 in iPad Pro + Apple MK to the larger screen 13.6 in M2 MBA. Compare the cost of a 12.9 in iPad Pro (with 256GB storage) + Apple MK to a base model M2 MBA (256GB storage). The iPad set-up will be more expensive. In general, I believe the MBA with MacOS is a better laptop option than an iPad for for most people. I guess this is the reason I see tons of people on laptops working remote at the local coffee shop and very few on iPads. There certainly are exceptions, and I am not hating on the iPad. For example, I am sure there are folks that have a workflow that would allow them to use their iPad away from the office and an iMac when back at their desk. My wife does this. But, it is a much more expensive set-up than using a MBA that you can take with you and then plug into a 23in monitor (often on sale at big box stores for like $125) at your desk.
 
Well, yes, but if you are using your iPad as a laptop replacement (title of this thread) then you probably have it in a keyboard case, and it will weigh about the same as an MBA......perhaps more. Compare the weight of the 12.9 in iPad Pro + Apple MK to the larger screen 13.6 in M2 MBA. Compare the cost of a 12.9 in iPad Pro (with 256GB storage) + Apple MK to a base model M2 MBA (256GB storage). The iPad set-up will be more expensive. In general, I believe the MBA with MacOS is a better laptop option than an iPad for for most people. I guess this is the reason I see tons of people on laptops working remote at the local coffee shop and very few on iPads. There certainly are exceptions, and I am not hating on the iPad. For example, I am sure there are folks that have a workflow that would allow them to use their iPad away from the office and an iMac when back at their desk. My wife does this. But, it is a much more expensive set-up than using a MBA that you can take with you and then plug into a 23in monitor (often on sale at big box stores for like $125) at your desk.
I think the big issue with this thread (and therefore with comments like this one) is that people assume that iPad as a laptop replacement means no need for the iPad only features in addition to the laptop features.
In this case the argument is "iPad is not cheaper or lighter than an equivalently specced MBA". And while the "lighter" is not true for the 11", since Apple no longer sells the 12" MacBook, the counter argument is that the screen is smaller and less comfortable.
The point is that weight and price is not really the argument here, or at least not the way it's presented in a comment like this. The arguments are the added features from an iPad, like pen support, cellular support, convertibility (easily removed from the keyboard and being able to use it, for instance, while standing, in either landscape of portrait mode etc.). Admittedly, these are all Apple limitations on MacBooks (in Windows world things are different) but we are in an Apple forum... Anyway people want to replace the MacBook without giving up those iPad features.
So if you need / want those features the alternative is not a MBA but a MBA plus an equivalent quality iPad (without or even with a keyboard case if you want to protect and type better on your iPad), which is more expensive and heavier than an iPad pro + Magic keyboard.
So the idea is giving up the extra weight (and maybe cost) of a MacBook without giving up the iPad benefits.
 
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I think the big issue with this thread (and therefore with comments like this one) is that people assume that iPad as a laptop replacement means no need for the iPad only features in addition to the laptop features.
In this case the argument is "iPad is not cheaper or lighter than an equivalently specced MBA". And while the "lighter" is not true for the 11", since Apple no longer sells the 12" MacBook, the counter argument is that the screen is smaller and less comfortable.
The point is that weight and price is not really the argument here, or at least not the way it's presented in a comment like this. The arguments are the added features from an iPad, like pen support, cellular support, convertibility (easily removed from the keyboard and being able to use it, for instance, while standing, in either landscape of portrait mode etc.). Admittedly, these are all Apple limitations on MacBooks (in Windows world things are different) but we are in an Apple forum... Anyway people want to replace the MacBook without giving up those iPad features.
So if you need / want those features the alternative is not a MBA but a MBA plus an equivalent quality iPad (without or even with a keyboard case if you want to protect and type better on your iPad), which is more expensive and heavier than an iPad pro + Magic keyboard.
So the idea is giving up the extra weight (and maybe cost) of a MacBook without giving up the iPad benefits.
I agree that there are people that might want or need iPad only features, and those individuals might be better-off using an iPad as their mobile solution rather than a traditional laptop. But, then it isn't a laptop replacement.....by definition. And, that is the title of this thread.

BTW - My comments were not just limited to weight and cost. I also pointed out that, in general, the MBA with MacOS is a better solution for most office work and college students. There definitely are exceptions. I think a more productive conversation is to explore those exceptional use cases where it is worthwhile to shift away from a laptop to a tablet. Of course, many of these people will end up with both an iPad and a desktop computer, so the cost will increase further.
 
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I agree that there are people that might want or need iPad only features, and those individuals might be better-off using an iPad as their mobile solution rather than a traditional laptop. But, then it isn't a laptop replacement.....by definition. And, that is the title of this thread.

BTW - My comments were not just limited to weight and cost. I also pointed out that, in general, the MBA with MacOS is a better solution for most office work and college students. There definitely are exceptions. I think a more productive conversation is to explore those exceptional use cases where it is worthwhile to shift away from a laptop to a tablet. Of course, many of these people will end up with both an iPad and a desktop computer, so the cost will increase further.
If it replaces their laptop, then it is a laptop replacement.
 
If it replaces their laptop, then it is a laptop replacement.
I guess you can call it a replacement. You can also use a hatchet to pound nails and say it is a replacement for a hammer. But, it is heavier, more expensive, and not as good as a hammer at doing the job of pounding nails. But, yeah, you can do it and call it a replacement if you want.
 
I agree that there are people that might want or need iPad only features, and those individuals might be better-off using an iPad as their mobile solution rather than a traditional laptop. But, then it isn't a laptop replacement.....by definition. And, that is the title of this thread.

BTW - My comments were not just limited to weight and cost. I also pointed out that, in general, the MBA with MacOS is a better solution for most office work and college students. There definitely are exceptions. I think a more productive conversation is to explore those exceptional use cases where it is worthwhile to shift away from a laptop to a tablet. Of course, many of these people will end up with both an iPad and a desktop computer, so the cost will increase further.
It's a matter of priorities and while I agree that if I had to choose one device on the go I would pick a laptop, it would definitely not be a MacBook as for me cellular is a priority and I don't want to have to mess with connecting a MacBook to my Samsung smartphone all the time... Pen support is not always necessary but sometimes I need it for annotation (I am a teacher but I can see many students having the same need). What do they do? They use pen and paper instead, which is less efficient but cheaper. Having said that if I could not use a Windows convertible or cellular laptop at least, I would prefer my cellular iPad pro with MK to a MacBook and would connect remotely to Windows (even with the risk of not having a connection in some places).
 
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I guess you can call it a replacement. You can also use a hatchet to pound nails and say it is a replacement for a hammer. But, it is heavier, more expensive, and not as good as a hammer at doing the job of pounding nails. But, yeah, you can do it and call it a replacement if you want.
I've used a hatchet as a hammer while camping because it works perfectly well at that task and saves me bringing a hammer. Because its head is heavier, it can do a better job of driving nails, but if you are hanging a smaller item, you might consider using an HatchetMini to hammer the nail. :D

An iPad is perfectly capable of being a laptop replacement for most of what people use their personal laptops for, but it can't be a laptop replacement for some of what people use their work laptops for.
 
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I've used a hatchet as a hammer while camping because it works perfectly well at that task and saves me bringing a hammer. Because its head is heavier, it can do a better job of driving nails, but if you are hanging a smaller item, you might consider using an HatchetMini to hammer the nail. :D

An iPad is perfectly capable of being a laptop replacement for most of what people use their personal laptops for, but it can't be a laptop replacement for some of what people use their work laptops for.
Well, if you are saying that using an iPad as laptop replacement is like using a hatchet as a hammer replacement, then I guess we are in complete agreement.
 
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