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chmania said:
Android phone or an iPhone can, and all other actions can be done on a laptop, whatever the name it carries. And, you can put the phone in your back pocket. Try putting an ipad in a trouser pocket...
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Have fun using a laptop with that trackpad outside. Touch screen > trackpad any day of week when used outdoors. It‘s why you see almost nobody using a laptop outside, except in Starbucks.

Laptops are only interesting if you have it on a table with an external mouse. So it‘s more like a portable desktop rather than a true mobile computer like the iPhone and the iPad in that sense.

It‘s why I rarely bring my M2 MacBook Air with me, as I‘m always trying to find a table to put the M2 MacBook Air on, while with the M1 12.9 iPad Pro, I just sit anywhere I want outside and start using it as it operated by the Touch screen.
 
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Melbourne Park said:
Can she run Windows somehow on the next iPad?
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Currently, not in any practical way, no.

I use my iPad to access several different environments, but it requires either an Internet-accessible computer set up or a cloud instance, and a fast Internet connection at both ends.

It remains to be seen if next week’s announcement will include virtualization support, but I’d bet money against it.


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She loves MS Word (with its Control key copy and past method) and also she loves Office's Outlook mail app. She also hates a mouse and loves a touch screen.
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Both Outlook and Word are pretty much fine as native iPad apps, although somewhat limited compared to the desktop apps.

Normal X/C/V works with any USB or Bluetooth keyboard connected, although with a vanilla configuration it will be CMND instead of CTRL. (And the virtual touch keyboard has buttons for cut, copy and paste.)
 
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Zest28 said:
You do realize that the iPad can run Windows, Mac OS and even my Xbox Series X.
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installing Windows 11 on an ipad.jpeg
 
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chmania said:
Well, someone tried...the screeny was from there...
And, you tell us how you installed macOS on the iPad...
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Dude, I never use my PC with an external monitor, it is always “streaming“ to one of my devices as it doesn‘t work directly with my Apple Studio Display.

The only issues I have is with old software that is somehow breaking in a multiple monitor setup. But that is because it was a super old application.

So not sure what issue he has, but it is working fine here as a remote server.
 
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Zest28 said:
I‘m not going to promote any remote access apps as they don‘t sponsor me, but use that instead. Then you can run MacOS on your iPad.

Same principle works for Windows and even the Xbox Series X.

Problem solved.
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Meaning you don't know how...;)
 
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Zest28 said:
The iPad is not limited, it is simply limited by the person that is using it. You do realize that the iPad can run Windows, Mac OS and even my Xbox Series X.
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Factual this is false. You are not able to run these OSes on your iPad. You can’t install locally and use any them with an iPad as single device.

Using a somewhat broad interpretation of “run”, yes, for sure, you can remotely connect/access and do stuff in Windows & Co.. Same for software in some areas which can be run and used via a webinterface.

And for occasional things, that works quite well.

But the iPad is limited. While hardwarewise it is not, it can’t be used comfortable as a universal computing device. The iPad excels in some, or can be used on par with Wn/Mac/Linux machines in a growing list of areas - but there are limits. This thread holds sufficient examples for any this.

nota bene: “it is simply limited by the person that is using it” 🤣😂 - allow me to quote George Lucas on that one: “Meanwhile, back at reality..."
 
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Slartibart said:
Factual this is false. You are not able to run these OSes on your iPad. You can’t install locally and use any them with an iPad as single device.

Using a somewhat broad interpretation of “run”, yes, for sure, you can remotely connect/access and do stuff in Windows & Co.. Same for software in some areas which can be run and used via a webinterface.

And for occasional things, that works quite well.

But the iPad is limited. While hardwarewise it is not, it can’t be used comfortable as a universal computing device. The iPad excels in some, or can be used on par with Wn/Mac/Linux machines in a growing list of areas - but there are limits. This thread holds sufficient examples for any this.

nota bene: “it is simply limited by the person that is using it” 🤣😂 - allow me to quote George Lucas on that one: “Meanwhile, back at reality..."
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The thing is, everything is limited, Mac’s are limited too, it’s just that those limits are further out and the Mac is capable of more edge case tasks. If the iPad isn’t limited for them you can’t just claim it is. It might be limited ‘for you’ but a windows computer would be limited for me.
 
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Slartibart said:
Factual this is false. You are not able to run these OSes on your iPad. You can’t install locally and use any them with an iPad as single device.

Using a somewhat broad interpretation of “run”, yes, for sure, you can remotely connect/access and do stuff in Windows & Co.. Same for software in some areas which can be run and used via a webinterface.

And for occasional things, that works quite well.

But the iPad is limited. While hardwarewise it is not, it can’t be used comfortable as a universal computing device. The iPad excels in some, or can be used on par with Wn/Mac/Linux machines in a growing list of areas - but there are limits. This thread holds sufficient examples for any this.

nota bene: “it is simply limited by the person that is using it” 🤣😂 - allow me to quote George Lucas on that one: “Meanwhile, back at reality..."
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You guys really like to create problems that don’t really exist. Whether it is locally or remotely doesn’t matter at all, you can use Windows, Mac OS and many others things from the iPad.
 
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chmania said:
Doesn't matter what you own, but tell us how you installed macOS on the iPad...on bare metal...
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Off-topic, but I am reminded of this. 😬

www.macstories.net

MacPad: How I Created the Hybrid Mac-iPad Laptop and Tablet That Apple Won’t Make

It all started because I wanted a better keyboard for my Vision Pro. I had no idea that, in looking for one, I’d accidentally create the hybrid Apple computer of my dreams. As I quickly discovered after working on the Vision Pro daily, you can get by without an external trackpad, but a keyboard is
www.macstories.net www.macstories.net
 
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Abazigal said:
Off-topic, but I am reminded of this. 😬

www.macstories.net

MacPad: How I Created the Hybrid Mac-iPad Laptop and Tablet That Apple Won’t Make

It all started because I wanted a better keyboard for my Vision Pro. I had no idea that, in looking for one, I’d accidentally create the hybrid Apple computer of my dreams. As I quickly discovered after working on the Vision Pro daily, you can get by without an external trackpad, but a keyboard is
www.macstories.net www.macstories.net
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Yeah, as cool as that is, it looks kind of like it sucks from a day to day perspective.
 
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Abazigal said:
Off-topic, but I am reminded of this. 😬

www.macstories.net

MacPad: How I Created the Hybrid Mac-iPad Laptop and Tablet That Apple Won’t Make

It all started because I wanted a better keyboard for my Vision Pro. I had no idea that, in looking for one, I’d accidentally create the hybrid Apple computer of my dreams. As I quickly discovered after working on the Vision Pro daily, you can get by without an external trackpad, but a keyboard is
www.macstories.net www.macstories.net
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Buy two devices, paying nearly double, ruin one device and create a franken-mac, or franken-pad, well?

Adding touch screen abilities to a MacBook, without ruining it, around 3 years ago.
 
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Slartibart

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Zest28 said:
You guys really like to create problems that don’t really exist.
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Well, go write and compile a program for your iPad on your remote machine and then run and use it on your iPad. That’s jumping through quite some hoops, and probably nothing you want to do regularly.
Interested in machine learning? Exploring the world of Python comes directly to mind - well, if only you could compile various nice things locally…
Data visualisation out side the simple things e.g. Numbers, Excel or Collabora are allowing - well, you’re in for a world of limits in which some incredible nice partial solutions exist…
for further examples, please start reading for example here.
Zest28 said:
Whether it is locally or remotely doesn’t matter at all, you can use Windows, Mac OS and many others things from the iPad.
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There are plenty of occasions where of course it matters whether you run something remote vs. local. I mean, interested in 3D? Blender comes to mind, right? Run it remotely… and then try using Blender shortcuts… “we guys” wait.

As you so eloquently put it: “many” things can be “used”... but there are many scenarios in which you can’t… or just partially… or due to non-hardware limitations it takes unnecessary long time … or…

Enjoy that the things you want to do work perfectly using your iPad for you. Assuming that your proposed solution is a panacea for whatever and suggesting that otherwise it’s a user problem… well, that’s seems, to quote A.Boleyn, “Just a little off the top!"
 
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