iPad as a laptop replacement

[Ludatyk]

Great article and interview! 👍🏻. Very refreshing to see! And, I must say, for many years I’ve suspected the iPad is Craig Federighi’s favorite device, and this interview definitely seems to reinforce that. 👍🏻

Interview: Craig Federighi Opens Up About iPadOS, Its Multitasking Journey, and the iPad’s Essence

It’s a cool, sunny morning at Apple Park as I’m walking my way along the iconic glass ring to meet with Apple’s SVP of Software Engineering, Craig Federighi, for a conversation about the iPad. It’s the Wednesday after WWDC, and although there are still some developers and members of the press...

www.macstories.net

Thanks for sharing!

One point of the article when he mention the "Not an iPad Pro review" story.. I wanted to discuss this.

The reaction to that story was, to say the least, polarizing. Some Mac users saw it as a vindication of their longstanding beliefs, and I read comments from people who cited the story as “proof” that Apple didn’t care about the iPad at all and was just coasting to sell more expensive devices. Some iPad users saw the article as a “betrayal” from someone who had dedicated a large part of his career to covering the platform. And another group – people who, like me, loved the iPad but were disappointed by its lack of progress – well, they didn’t know what to think, but remained hopeful for its future.

And that's what annoyed me the most when Federico wrote that story... he played into the stereotypes of what naysayers say about the iPad. And it's not only Mac users that do it, but Windows users as well.

And as Federighi mention in the article... that Apple cares about the iPad, but to find that balance of simplicity while trying to bring power users features over to the platform has to have thoughtful consideration.

Another point of the article stood out as well.

Still, how did Apple land there? After all the talk over the past 15 years about the “post-PC era”, why have we come full circle to reusing features and UI metaphors that the Mac got right decades ago? I ask Federighi about this. “When you’re designing in a new space with a new set of constraints with a different kind of user in mind, you do guard yourself against whether it would be too easy to just pull the old thing off the shelf and put it here because maybe that feels right, because we’ve lived with it since 1984”, he begins, acknowledging the Mac’s key role in democratizing graphical user interfaces and freeform windowing. “And you ask yourself”, Federighi continues “’Well, but what is the essence of iPad? And if that other world had never existed and one had designed from first principles for a touch-first device…what would a cursor be like? What would windowing be like?’”.

I think this is the battle Apple continually face over the iPad... because most Mac/Windows users feel that they should just use "the old thing off the shelf and put it here." But I like how Apple tries to do in an iPad-like way... from a touch-first perspective.

I have to admit though... the Menu Bar touch targets are tiny, I like the fact they exist. But I'm not sure what they could even do to fix it. And just wanted to add.. after listening to ATP podcast, Marco brought up Stage Manager being another form of Spaces on the Mac.

And I didn't think nothing of it until now. Because I don't really use Spaces on the Mac anymore... but it does have some kind of resemblance. Both provides the user with focused environments.

 

[Kal Madda]

Thanks for sharing!

One point of the article when he mention the "Not an iPad Pro review" story.. I wanted to discuss this.


And that's what annoyed me the most when Federico wrote that story... he played into the stereotypes of what naysayers say about the iPad. And it's not only Mac users that do it, but Windows users as well.

And as Federighi mention in the article... that Apple cares about the iPad, but to find that balance of simplicity while trying to bring power users features over to the platform has to have thoughtful consideration.

Another point of the article stood out as well.


I think this is the battle Apple continually face over the iPad... because most Mac/Windows users feel that they should just use "the old thing off the shelf and put it here." But I like how Apple tries to do in an iPad-like way... from a touch-first perspective.

I have to admit though... the Menu Bar touch targets are tiny, I like the fact they exist. But I'm not sure what they could even do to fix it. And just wanted to add.. after listening to ATP podcast, Marco brought up Stage Manager being another form of Spaces on the Mac.

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And I didn't think nothing of it until now. Because I don't really use Spaces on the Mac anymore... but it does have some kind of resemblance. Both provides the user with focused environments.

Yeah, I really appreciate that he clarified that wasn’t his intention with that review to bolster those claims and stereotypes. 👍🏻. I remember when that review came out, it was frustrating because many people tried to use it as ammunition against those of us who prefer the iPad and think it can do more than watch YouTube and Netflix. I don’t know that I viewed that review as a “betrayal” per-say, but I do think that is pretty close to describing the way I felt over it initially. 👍🏻. I also think some of his claims in that review were somewhat exaggerated. Like while there wasn’t a way to set a default app to always open a specific file type (I technically did create a working Siri Shortcut that could do this for some file types and open them in an app of my choosing based on the file extension passed into the shortcut from the Share Sheet), it also wasn’t the picture he painted that he was just at the mercy of whatever app the system decided to open it in, and he couldn’t select an app to open it in from the Share Sheet either…. So I’m really glad to see him clarify his intentions with that review. 👍🏻

And yes, I definitely agree this is a process that requires a lot of careful consideration and work. I can totally get why Apple would be worried about the impulse to just slap older legacy interactions onto the iPad. They want to get it right, they have a new slate to tinker with and try to improve some interactions, rather than just rehashing them. Take their implementation of background tasks on iPadOS 26 for example, rather than duplicating the old way where there’s no intuitive way to monitor background tasks, they implemented it with a fresh take on it, with a live-activities style popup to monitor the background process and allow greater user control over it. I think this is where iPadOS has excelled in many ways in my opinion, iPadOS has managed to take several legacy interactions and improve on them.

Honestly, that’s what came to mind for me when Stage Manager was first introduced on the iPad. Beyond just adding a windowing feature, it also supplied a way to create window groupings similar to the way Spaces on the Mac does. It feels like a more intuitive way to produce spaces without adding different “desktops”. The thing that’s always confused me with that more legacy system on the Mac is having to create multiple “desktops” to manage different groupings of app windows. It doesn’t feel nearly as intuitive to me to create another desktop to add a grouping of windows, where Stage Manager simplifies that system and makes it easy to create and switch between app window groupings. 👍🏻

 

[bondr006]

Well beta 2 just came out and I've decided to jump in head first on my M1 Ipad Pro. It's updating now and I'm all excited and giddy.

Been really aching to use the new features and upgrades. Was killing me at the thought of waiting for the public beta. I can only imagine if I loved my iPad Pro with 18.5, that I'll just be gushing over with 26. I'll be back with my take.😎

Edit: Added a screenshot. Too tired to play much. I'll be back tomorrow...

 

[sjebleu]

I've come to the conclusion that most of the things my Ipad cannot do, but the Mac can, is simply too complicated or complex. I should atleast avoid processes/workflows or in best case, just abandon it all together. In desperation, there's almost always a solution, but it do cost time and/or money.
(Not talking about apps wise.)

 

[transmaster]

The biggest disappointment in my Mac Studio is its rotten audio. I am used to the fantastic audio I had on my ASUS ROG motherboards. 9.1 surround, ATMOS, Dolby Digital, THX, etc. However, the sound on my iPad is quitef good, especially when I directly hook up a DAC/Amp and go PCM mode.

 

[flobach]

Well beta 2 just came out and I've decided to jump in head first on my M1 Ipad Pro. It's updating now and I'm all excited and giddy.View attachment 2522654


Been really aching to use the new features and upgrades. Was killing me at the thought of waiting for the public beta. I can only imagine if I loved my iPad Pro with 18.5, that I'll just be gushing over with 26. I'll be back with my take.😎

Edit: Added a screenshot. Too tired to play much. I'll be back tomorrow...View attachment 2522665

Did the same figured I’ll use my M2 IPP as a beta machine, keep the MacBook (and the attached Time Machine!) on the stable release. So far enjoying the update!

On a side note, I really notice how the iPad needs to muscle down when attached to an external monitor - things get a bit choppy occasionally, and when the software update was preparing, it jumped between 30+ minutes when on external monitor to 5 minutes without it attached (tried it back and forth a bit). Likely a RAM thing methinks.

 

[flobach]

I've come to the conclusion that most of the things my Ipad cannot do, but the Mac can, is simply too complicated or complex. I should atleast avoid processes/workflows or in best case, just abandon it all together. In desperation, there's almost always a solution, but it do cost time and/or money.
(Not talking about apps wise.)

Yes! Keeping it simple(r) is key, and the iPad stops me overcomplicate things sometimes. And now having to do less and less workarounds, things get even smoother

 

[alecgold]

I've come to the conclusion that most of the things my Ipad cannot do, but the Mac can, is simply too complicated or complex. I should atleast avoid processes/workflows or in best case, just abandon it all together. In desperation, there's almost always a solution, but it do cost time and/or money.
(Not talking about apps wise.)

Could you give some examples?

 

[flobach]

Could you give some examples?

recent example of mine was fiddling around with google chrome themes, realising it was my ADHD perfectionism getting in the way, then just reverting to the standard theme. Can’t change themes on iPad - doesn’t bother me when I work on the iPad!

I prefer single apps on the screen, with the ability for one or two additional ones when necessary. I often overdo it with too many windows on macOS, I feel more focused on iPad.

Would be interested to hear @sjebleu ‘s answer!

 

[alecgold]

recent example of mine was fiddling around with google chrome themes, realising it was my ADHD perfectionism getting in the way, then just reverting to the standard theme. Can’t change themes on iPad - doesn’t bother me when I work on the iPad!

I prefer single apps on the screen, with the ability for one or two additional ones when necessary. I often overdo it with too many windows on macOS, I feel more focused on iPad.

Would be interested to hear @sjebleu ‘s answer!

Many thanks, that does make it much more clear!
And it is recognisable: I’m rather easily distracted. The other day I was counting how many different tasks I was doing on a computer with 2 34” 27k screens. The result was a bit disturbing: 5 different mails, 2 unrelated documents and a host of PDF’s.
On my iPad I can still switch, but it’s much easier to avoid distractions.

 

[sjebleu]

I had many cases of those. But here are some:

I've gotten so used to a Macbook and a 48", 4K and 120 Hz monitor for a while, that using only the Macbook somehow limited my (mental) efficiency due to the smaller screen. Now, since the iPad can not output 120 Hz to the 4K-monitor, and the tandem OLED are way more pleasing than the 4K OLED, I just couldn't use the ipad with my external monitor.
Simplest was to readjust to use my ipad as it is, to be efficient anywhere and anytime. (Yes, it worked).

Could this readjustment have been done with the Macbook? Yes, but the ipad kind of forced me to do it.

A rather bigger example:
At work, I used to do some big and complex excel work with macros, automations etc. on the Mac. Then I got the M4 ipad to then prepare for my engineering studies. While still employed and don't want to drag both machines along to the office; I found out the hard way how terrible Excel for Ipad is.
So I had to take a step back wonder how the hell I've come to this point of this excel nightmare in the first place.
In short; I did learn SQL in a rather short time period, and then create some database queries (web-app, on server) which in many cases was a way better solution than the excel-solution.

Looking back, I'll conclude that the ipad-excel is fine. If one needs more than it can provide, then there's obviously a better solution out there.

My next challenge are:
To program a microcontroller (Arduino) for electronics, I need an app. But there's no app for ipad, and web-apps are blocked to access the Thunderbolt-port.
I guess my options are either to create an ipad-app, or use a Raspberry pi as a middleman between the ipad and the microcontroller.
This kind of sound way more complicated than to 'just use the mac', and it probably is. But this is to my previous post regarding "there's always a solution, but cost time/money".
(Since the microcontroller thing are a part of the syllabus, I guess every learning is a win.)

 

[Kal Madda]

So, I took the plunge! As many of you already know, I’ve been using my M1 11” iPad Pro as my primary computer for about the past 4-5 years. Now I am upgrading to the M4 13” iPad Pro! Very excited about the upgrade, I ordered all of the accessories today, and everything should be shipping soon. And this time, unlike the first, I got the cellular compatible model, so if I decide at a later date to buy a data plan, I will have the option! Overall, I am so excited about the upgrade, I think the extra screen real estate will make major improvements for my workflow, and I’m excited to see how some of my 3D apps run on the M4 hardware! And I really like the new Magic Keyboard Case design! My 11” iPad Pro has served me very well, and I’m looking forward to many more years of using the iPad! 👍🏻

 

[Ludatyk]

So, I took the plunge! As many of you already know, I’ve been using my M1 11” iPad Pro as my primary computer for about the past 4-5 years. Now I am upgrading to the M4 13” iPad Pro! Very excited about the upgrade, I ordered all of the accessories today, and everything should be shipping soon. And this time, unlike the first, I got the cellular compatible model, so if I decide at a later date to buy a data plan, I will have the option! Overall, I am so excited about the upgrade, I think the extra screen real estate will make major improvements for my workflow, and I’m excited to see how some of my 3D apps run on the M4 hardware! And I really like the new Magic Keyboard Case design! My 11” iPad Pro has served me very well, and I’m looking forward to many more years of using the iPad! 👍🏻

Congrats! I’m surprised you went with the 13” model… seemed set on the 11”? I’m guessing you can try it and see if you prefer it over the previous size. Have you already purchased the Magic Keyboard too?

Edit. And I noticed you ordered all the accessories… so disregard the Magic Keyboard question.

 

[bondr006]

So, I took the plunge! As many of you already know, I’ve been using my M1 11” iPad Pro as my primary computer for about the past 4-5 years. Now I am upgrading to the M4 13” iPad Pro! Very excited about the upgrade, I ordered all of the accessories today, and everything should be shipping soon. And this time, unlike the first, I got the cellular compatible model, so if I decide at a later date to buy a data plan, I will have the option! Overall, I am so excited about the upgrade, I think the extra screen real estate will make major improvements for my workflow, and I’m excited to see how some of my 3D apps run on the M4 hardware! And I really like the new Magic Keyboard Case design! My 11” iPad Pro has served me very well, and I’m looking forward to many more years of using the iPad! 👍🏻

Congrats!!!

That's exciting...

Will be interested on how you like the 13". As you know I have the M1 11". I will be upgrading soon too to the 13". Just haven't decided if I'll get the M4 or wait for the M5.

 

[Kal Madda]

Congrats! I’m surprised you went with the 13” model… seemed set on the 11”? I’m guessing you can try it and see if you prefer it over the previous size. Have you already purchased the Magic Keyboard too?

Yeah, at first I was hesitant about moving to a 13” model, the only 13” model I had had much experience with was the 13” M1 model, which at the time was thicker than the 11” model, and significantly heavier. But I had several chances to spend a lot of time with display models for the M4 hands on, and the 13” model is so different than the M1 13” model in terms of weight. It didn’t feel significantly heavier than my 11” M1, and I was actually very surprised by how good the ergonomics are compared to the 11”, I could even thumb-type on the on-screen keyboard while holding it, something I wasn’t expecting. And typing on the 13” keyboard case felt better, the 11” did well, but long typing sessions, and I would begin to notice the difference and it would feel a bit more cramped. My writing workload has grown over the years, so that will be helpful to use a full-sized keyboard.

And I also had a chance to try some of my apps on the display models, since they had demo apps pre-installed, and some of those were the older versions of the Affinity apps, which gave me a great way to test the workspace difference. The workspace is so much larger. It seems like a small change in footprint, it’s only about an inch in either direction, but it makes a big difference for workspace within apps. I’ve found with the 3D apps I’m using, a little more screen real estate is helpful for seeing more of my project at once. Of course, I can use my desktop monitor for this, but often my office gets pretty hot in the summer, so it’s nice to be able to work away from the desk, and I end up mostly working in other places that are cooler. 🙂

Overall, trying to go in with an open mind, ignoring the prices of the models, and focusing on which would provide me with the best utility and experience for my workflow, the time I got to take handling display models won me over to the 13” model. It will be interesting to see how it feels after a few weeks of use, but I think it’s going to be an improvement. 👍🏻

Also, I did order the Magic Keyboard Case for it. I really like the aluminum palm rests, it makes it feel so much nicer for long typing sessions, and more premium. And it will also be nice to have function keys. It’s a minor thing, but I think it will be another nice improvement. 👍🏻. Also, I got the Space Black iPad Pro and Keyboard Case.

I also ordered the Apple Pencil Pro (another thing I really like with my tests with the display models), and a protective sleeve for carrying (as my current one will obviously not fit). And one thing I really like about this sleeve is it has all zippered external pockets. The first time around, I got a sleeve with a single velcro pocket on the outside, and it makes it far more limited in what size of accessories I can safely store in the pocket without having to worry about them slipping out around the little velcro patch. This design will be much better for the accessories I’m carrying. The link for the sleeve I ordered below:

https://www.amazon.com/MOSISO-Tablet-2022-2018-Keyboard-Pockets/dp/B0D4H8BXG4

 

[Ultracyclist]

So, I took the plunge! As many of you already know, I’ve been using my M1 11” iPad Pro as my primary computer for about the past 4-5 years. Now I am upgrading to the M4 13” iPad Pro! Very excited about the upgrade, I ordered all of the accessories today, and everything should be shipping soon. And this time, unlike the first, I got the cellular compatible model, so if I decide at a later date to buy a data plan, I will have the option! Overall, I am so excited about the upgrade, I think the extra screen real estate will make major improvements for my workflow, and I’m excited to see how some of my 3D apps run on the M4 hardware! And I really like the new Magic Keyboard Case design! My 11” iPad Pro has served me very well, and I’m looking forward to many more years of using the iPad! 👍🏻

Happy days!!!

 

[Kal Madda]

Congrats!!!View attachment 2523416 That's exciting...View attachment 2523417

Will be interested on how you like the 13". As you know I have the M1 11". I will be upgrading soon too to the 13". Just haven't decided if I'll get the M4 or wait for the M5.View attachment 2523420

Awesome! It will be interesting to see what they do with the M5. 👍🏻. And I will be sure to report back on how I like the 13” once I get a chance to test it for probably about a week or so. I’m actually thinking I may write about some of my thoughts on the upgrade for my SubStack as well, so I will try to make sure to cover all the potential concerns I went in with and how I feel about them after a week or two with the 13” model. 👍🏻

 

[bondr006]

Yeah, at first I was hesitant about moving to a 13” model, the only 13” model I had had much experience with was the 13” M1 model, which at the time was thicker than the 11” model, and significantly heavier. But I had several chances to spend a lot of time with display models for the M4 hands on, and the 13” model is so different than the M1 13” model in terms of weight. It didn’t feel significantly heavier than my 11” M1, and I was actually very surprised by how good the ergonomics are compared to the 11”, I could even thumb-type on the on-screen keyboard while holding it, something I wasn’t expecting. And typing on the 13” keyboard case felt better, the 11” did well, but long typing sessions, and I would begin to notice the difference and it would feel a bit more cramped. My writing workload has grown over the years, so that will be helpful to use a full-sized keyboard.

And I also had a chance to try some of my apps on the display models, since they had demo apps pre-installed, and some of those were the older versions of the Affinity apps, which gave me a great way to test the workspace difference. The workspace is so much larger. It seems like a small change in footprint, it’s only about an inch in either direction, but it makes a big difference for workspace within apps. I’ve found with the 3D apps I’m using, a little more screen real estate is helpful for seeing more of my project at once. Of course, I can use my desktop monitor for this, but often my office gets pretty hot in the summer, so it’s nice to be able to work away from the desk, and I end up mostly working in other places that are cooler. 🙂

Overall, trying to go in with an open mind, ignoring the prices of the models, and focusing on which would provide me with the best utility and experience for my workflow, the time I got to take handling display models won me over to the 13” model. It will be interesting to see how it feels after a few weeks of use, but I think it’s going to be an improvement. 👍🏻

Also, I did order the Magic Keyboard Case for it. I really like the aluminum palm rests, it makes it feel so much nicer for long typing sessions, and more premium. And it will also be nice to have function keys. It’s a minor thing, but I think it will be another nice improvement. 👍🏻. Also, I got the Space Black iPad Pro and Keyboard Case.

I also ordered the Apple Pencil Pro (another thing I really like with my tests with the display models), and a protective sleeve for carrying (as my current one will obviously not fit). And one thing I really like about this sleeve is it has all zippered external pockets. The first time around, I got a sleeve with a single velcro pocket on the outside, and it makes it far more limited in what size of accessories I can safely store in the pocket without having to worry about them slipping out around the little velcro patch. This design will be much better for the accessories I’m carrying. The link for the sleeve I ordered below:

https://www.amazon.com/MOSISO-Tablet-2022-2018-Keyboard-Pockets/dp/B0D4H8BXG4

I like that bag you got. I have a 13 sleeve already, but I added yours to my cart. I will also get the Logitech Combo Touch again for the 13". Been using it on my M1 11" since I got it, and like it so much I can't imagine using anything else. Can't wait to hear what you think of your new iPad Pro. I know it will be love at first sight.

 

[Kal Madda]

I like that bag you got. I have a 13 sleeve already, but I added yours to my cart. I will also get the Logitech Combo Touch again for the 13". Been using it on my M1 11" since I got it, and like it so much I can't imagine using anything else. Can't wait to hear what you think of your new iPad Pro. I know it will be love at first sight.View attachment 2523431

Thanks! One of my biggest regrets with my current sleeve, as I mentioned, is it has a single pocket on the outside, and it just uses a little velcro patch to hold it closed. For one, this ends up resulting in my small-ish accessories I carry in it (like the hub I use and my MagSafe charger pack for my phone) jostling around in it loose. But it also means I’m more conscious about it, and don’t carry several smaller accessories like my Samsung USB-C thumbdrive by itself, I have to carry it in a larger case, which somewhat defeats the purpose of carrying such a compact storage drive. So this time I knew what I wanted to look for, and was able to find an option that better suited my needs. 👍🏻. I’m excited to try it out! I’m glad to hear it looks useful to you as well! 👍🏻

And it very likely will be love at first sight, lol! 😂. I have been planning this upgrade for a while now, and seeing the Tandem OLED display, I’m really excited to use that display for my design work. It’s a processional studio grade display on an iPad! 👍🏻

 

[Ludatyk]

I also ordered the Apple Pencil Pro (another thing I really like with my tests with the display models), and a protective sleeve for carrying (as my current one will obviously not fit). And one thing I really like about this sleeve is it has all zippered external pockets. The first time around, I got a sleeve with a single velcro pocket on the outside, and it makes it far more limited in what size of accessories I can safely store in the pocket without having to worry about them slipping out around the little velcro patch. This design will be much better for the accessories I’m carrying. The link for the sleeve I ordered below:

https://www.amazon.com/MOSISO-Tablet-2022-2018-Keyboard-Pockets/dp/B0D4H8BXG4

I carry around a mini backpack (daypack)… it has served me well. I had a sling awhile back (stopped using it though)… but this backpack I have now sits the iPad perfectly.

Awesome! It will be interesting to see what they do with the M5. 👍🏻. And I will be sure to report back on how I like the 13” once I get a chance to test it for probably about a week or so. I’m actually thinking I may write about some of my thoughts on the upgrade for my SubStack as well, so I will try to make sure to cover all the potential concerns I went in with and how I feel about them after a week or two with the 13” model.

And I’m curious… what made you decide to upgrade to the M4 instead waiting 4-5 months for the release of the M5?

 

[Kal Madda]

I carry around a mini backpack (daypack)… it has served me well. I had a sling awhile back (stopped using it though)… but this backpack I have now sits the iPad perfectly.


And I’m curious… what made you decide to upgrade to the M4 instead waiting 4-5 months for the release of the M5?

Awesome! A daypack makes a lot of sense for that. 👍🏻

I have been planning to upgrade to the M4 for several months now, and was saving up for it. So I got enough saved up, and I also found a good deal on the M4, so figured I’d go for it. The M5 will probably have some performance improvements in some areas, but I think it will be a while beyond the launch date before I’d be able to find a good deal like that for the M5 model, so I looked at it as making more sense to just snag one up sooner for a good price rather than waiting. Also, because I’ve been anticipating the upgrade for so long, I just couldn’t wait another third of a year. 🙂.

 

[sparksd]

Awesome! A daypack makes a lot of sense for that. 👍🏻

For a backpack for my electronics, etc., I use one of these -

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I like it because it's, roomy, expandable to larger size if needed, has pockets, the backstraps can be stowed so as to carry as a briefcase, and it offers good internal protection for a laptop or iPad.

 

[Ludatyk]

Awesome! A daypack makes a lot of sense for that. 👍🏻

It was actually given as a gift and come to find out there’s a lot guys that wear daypacks… never really realized it until I actually worn one myself.

I have been planning to upgrade to the M4 for several months now, and was saving up for it. So I got enough saved up, and I also found a good deal on the M4, so figured I’d go for it. The M5 will probably have some performance improvements in some areas, but I think it will be a while beyond the launch date before I’d be able to find a good deal like that for the M5 model, so I looked at it as making more sense to just snag one up sooner for a good price rather than waiting. Also, because I’ve been anticipating the upgrade for so long, I just couldn’t wait another third of a year. 🙂.

Well, I’m glad it all worked out for you. And you coming from an 11” to an 13”… that’s going to be a big step up. Any idea of when it’s arriving?

 

[Kal Madda]

It was actually given as a gift and come to find out there’s a lot guys that wear daypacks… never really realized it until I actually worn one myself.


Well, I’m glad it all worked out for you. And you coming from an 11” to an 13”… that’s going to be a big step up. Any idea of when it’s arriving?

Yeah, I know many people who use bags like that. 👍🏻 I believe that furthest out date for the ETA range was July 2nd, but I think more around the 28th is more likely. I’ll have a better idea when it begins to ship. 👍🏻. I think basically everything is estimated to arrive around the 28th or so, which is pretty fast shipping. 👍🏻

 

[Kal Madda]

Well, I’m glad it all worked out for you. And you coming from an 11” to an 13”… that’s going to be a big step up. Any idea of when it’s arriving?

It shipped, and now the tracking is saying it should arrive June 30th, not bad at all! 👍🏻