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You have a valid point.

The SE stands for special edition, apple uses it as a final edition for certain product lines, sort of like a sendoff.

Having said that apple will not bring back the iPhone 5, maybe a new iPhone mini in a year or two, but not with the iPhone 5 frame and not this year.

The iPhone 7 has now replaced se and the iPhone 8 will replace the iPhone 7 come fall.

If Apple were to return the SE, I don’t think it would resemble what it once did. From a consumer standpoint, I think there is a demographic that would still want the iPhone SE in the smaller form factor and price point, however from a business standpoint with Apple, I think that they don’t see the value in the SE, because it’s not making them enough money to keep manufacturing this specific phone. Being it was just discontinued in 2018, I suspect that the SE if it is revived again, it won’t be until at least 2020 or later, if at all.
 
^thats a good point

Mini was never discontinued 4 was still sold for a while until 5 came out

SE was
 
The SE isn’t going to be made anymore and neither is the iPod touch

Oh a new iPod touch? I hope those rumors are true I would love a new iPod. I’m probably in the minority, but I hate putting music on my iPhone or listening to music on it.

I see keeping the iPod Touch (and maybe Nano) as potentially more important than an iPhone SE resurrection, because there are people out there who need a way to carry their iTunes content with them everywhere, but they use non-Apple phones and they don't want to carry around a big iPad.

If the only way people could get portable iTunes content was via iPhone and iPad, that is not going to drive sales to more expensive iPhones, even though you don't need a SIM card anymore to activate an iPhone with iOS 12 and later. The cheapest iPhone 7 with 32GB costs $449 while the Touch is $199 and includes a headphone jack to use while the Touch is charging. That's quite a big difference.

I still use an iPod Video 5.5G with 64GB SD Card adapter in my car, sitting in the center console connected via USB, so that I can control the music from my Pioneer headunit in case my wife's phone is the one being used for CarPlay and navigation instead of mine. Why would I want to use a more expensive iPhone in that kind of use? If I use a thumbdrive or SD card to carry the music in my car, then I have to rename thousands of songs to include the song number in front of the song name, because many car head units still play album songs in alphabetical order instead of numerical order.
 
I feel really sorry for people who use iPhone as the primary device for: movies, paying bills, spreadsheet etc. I guess they'd buy 10" phones if such were offered. I've got other devices for such use cases.

You mean a tablet?
 
As much as I love the SE, I know the form factor is dead. But hey at least we got the Mini 5 instead!

The closest thing that we might get to a smaller iPhone is a smaller iPhone XR.
 
As much as I love the SE, I know the form factor is dead. But hey at least we got the Mini 5 instead!

The closest thing that we might get to a smaller iPhone is a smaller iPhone XR.

And realistically, I think it’s a really good sign that Apple released an updated version of the iPad mini five with Apple Pencil support. It goes to show you that they were paying attention or listening to the requests from their customer Fanbase. And maybe that’s what needs to happen for an iPhone like the SE, is that Apple needs/should continue to listen to see what their customers are wanting out of these legacy products. So hopefully that’s a trend that Apple will continue to pay attention to not just with these bigger iPhones, but also the smaller ones too.
 
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The Watch is very much a companion product & essentially the AR glasses will NEVER replace the physical device that you hold in your hand.

Currently "The Watch is very much a companion product" yet it will evolve.

Concerpts I submit:
Cultured Code.
Anon.

Reaons for my hypothesis:
More of a personal product, and more fashionable (both the watch and a potential excellent AR glasses with prescription and tinting and polarization). For centuries each product is used by those that require it or not.
AR Glasses solves the issue for those that:
a) Don't want large screens
b) Want large screens to display more (AR glasses)
c) foldable phones are a joke; longevity with more mechanical moving parts = less longevity.
d) You don't really drop your watch often do you?
e) no need for that 'blackberry helmet' jokingly, yet seriously people still stare at their phones while walking or crossing the street in public - still a hazard.
f) distracted driving can be nullified or heavily reduced.

g) (speaking of F) ... Aston Martin has the AMR concept hypercar in development and their centre console is using your smartphone - and an app - NOT a dedicated console; thereby reducing costs: no need for large screen by manufacturer, no need for LTE data for the car - use your mobile carriers via your phone.
 
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