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Fluttershy462

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I have the Kindle from years ago that came with free 3G. Absolutely loved it but Ive never bought a new one yet. While the e-ink display is nice, I’m just not going to be reading anything long enough that would cause my eyes to get tired anyway. So I go with the iPad, it allows me to read fat more than just what’s on the Amazon store and has many more uses of course.
 
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AVBeatMan

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I have both iPad mini 6 and kindle oasis. I’m going to try using the kindle app on the mini. Just been trying out settings. Any recommendations? So far I’ve arrived at this;

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sparksd

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I have both iPad mini 6 and kindle oasis. I’m going to try using the kindle app on the mini. Just been trying out settings. Any recommendations? So far I’ve arrived at this;

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I find I prefer a white background with moderate brightness and Bookerly font at just under 50% size.

Heads up - the latest Kindle app version 6.48 has a bug where it doesn't remember some settings like brightness (it starts back at 100%) and tutorial prompts keep popping up.
 

Amplelink

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I can’t use Kindles. Too antiquated. My eyes have no issues with iPad screens and reading on them for hours. Easy choice for me.
 

avedis

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Just got both an iPad Mini 6 along with a Kobo Libra 2 that has a new e-ink 1200 screen.

Been test driving both for bout a fortnight. I would say the iPad is really good for couch/indoor reading with a zippy interface. PDFs, comics and magazines look so much better on it as compared to my Libra. The iPad mini is really a much more versatile device.

However, I prefer the e-ink screen once I'm outdoors due to its lighter weight, better reflection handling and the buttons come in handy on my daily train commute.

If I had to pick between one, it'll definitely be the iPad as it could do so much more. E-Ink devices are not exactly cheap for what they can do imo whereas the iPad mini fulfils 70% of the tasks I do on my computer.
 
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This is a truly underrated aspect of e-readers.
It's incredible how much modern life and online interaction has ruined my attention span.

To really zero in anymore, I need to have a dedicated device (or just a normal book itself)
I suppose Apple’s answer to this is focus modes.

For me, my iPad mini is a purely ancillary device since I got it at a low price. I have notifications disabled so it is my downtime device. I only get distracted if I actively distract myself (which is a totally different issue ?)
 

ScanTheNavian

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This is a truly underrated aspect of e-readers.
It's incredible how much modern life and online interaction has ruined my attention span.

To really zero in anymore, I need to have a dedicated device (or just a normal book itself)

I feel the same. I think the sweet spot in technological usage for me is what it was like when I grew up in the 90's. I had Internet, computers and games, but they never took over the IRL aspects of life. Parents set boundaries so it was normal to just sit idle looking out the window, reading books and playing outside. I have succeeded sometimes to find that balance and it's weird what sense of relief and peace it gives. I don't feel the usual stress or overstimulation in my mind and it feels once again exciting and fulfilling to do simple small things that requires my focus. It's like I finally give my brain time to calmly digest something.
 

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I feel the same. I think the sweet spot in technological usage for me is what it was like when I grew up in the 90's. I had Internet, computers and games, but they never took over the IRL aspects of life. Parents set boundaries so it was normal to just sit idle looking out the window, reading books and playing outside. I have succeeded sometimes to find that balance and it's weird what sense of relief and peace it gives. I don't feel the usual stress or overstimulation in my mind and it feels once again exciting and fulfilling to do simple small things that requires my focus. It's like I finally give my brain time to calmly digest something.

Please do share some things that have worked for you!
I feel trapped on the attention hamster wheel
 

Tagbert

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Have you considered the new 11th generation Kindle Paperwhite?
It just came out in the last month. The screen is now up to 6.8" up from 6" in the previous generation. The front-light can be adjusted between cool and warm tint. The processor is a little faster. It also has USB-C charging now.
 
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AVBeatMan

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I have found reading on both devices good but for now prefer my Kindle Oasis because it's lighter to hold and seems easier on my eyes when reading in bed at night with the lights out. (are there any similar settings own the iPad mini for this?). I really want to use my iPad mini 6 as a my primary reader (1 device as opposed to 2) but so far prefer the Kindle. Maybe I should put the Kindle away and give the mini a proper go. Maybe try for a month? Has anyone else tried this and moved to mini only?
 

sparksd

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I have found reading on both devices good but for now prefer my Kindle Oasis because it's lighter to hold and seems easier on my eyes when reading in bed at night with the lights out. (are there any similar settings own the iPad mini for this?). I really want to use my iPad mini 6 as a my primary reader (1 device as opposed to 2) but so far prefer the Kindle. Maybe I should put the Kindle away and give the mini a proper go. Maybe try for a month? Has anyone else tried this and moved to mini only?

Yes, my Oasis sits unused while I use my Mini 6 in bed. I turn the display brightness down and have no difficulties using it.
 

BigMcGuire

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Yes, my Oasis sits unused while I use my Mini 6 in bed. I turn the display brightness down and have no difficulties using it.
I do not think I could go to a kindle device due to the fact that most of the books I read have a fair number of high resolution images, something that seems to be increasing in e-books as time goes on. But, agreed, I usually keep my iPad at the lowest brightness tolerable due to the fact that it helps reduce strain on my eyes, especially at night.
 
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sparksd

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I do not think I could go to a kindle device due to the fact that most of the books I read have a fair number of high resolution images, something that seems to be increasing in e-books as time goes on. But, agreed, I usually keep my iPad at the lowest brightness tolerable due to the fact that it helps reduce strain on my eyes, especially at night.

With books with a lot of images, I like to switch to the 2021 12.9 for the larger display, even in bed.
 
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sracer

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I feel the same. I think the sweet spot in technological usage for me is what it was like when I grew up in the 90's. I had Internet, computers and games, but they never took over the IRL aspects of life. Parents set boundaries so it was normal to just sit idle looking out the window, reading books and playing outside. I have succeeded sometimes to find that balance and it's weird what sense of relief and peace it gives. I don't feel the usual stress or overstimulation in my mind and it feels once again exciting and fulfilling to do simple small things that requires my focus. It's like I finally give my brain time to calmly digest something.
Good thoughts... and echo much of my experiences and successes with the role technology plays in my life. "I think the sweet spot in technological usage for me is what it was like when I grew up in the 90's." sums it up... but for me, that point in time is somewhere between the 60's and 70's. :D

I'm a "digital immigrant" (as opposed to a digital native)... I was born before technology fully enveloped life. In 1976 I had my first experience with personal computers and began my journey as a software developer. Since then, computers (and tech in general) have played a significant role in my life... but never a central one.

It wasn't until 2001 that I bought my first cellphone. To this day, I treat my smartphones basically no differently than how I used the old wall-mounted phone in the kitchen. When I'm at home, my phone sits on my desk in my office. When it rings, I make my way over to it. If I pick it up in time, great... if not, there's caller ID and there's voicemail... neither of which were available with that wall-mounted kitchen phone.

Tech companies (it's not just Apple) today want customers to have their products be the central hub of their lives. I have made a conscious effort to not fall into that trap. But they do make a convincing case for convenience and connecting the various elements of life.

For digital natives who want to break the cycle of hyper-connectedness and put technology in a more healthy perspective, I would encourage them to transition away from all-in-1, general-purpose devices and toward more specialized devices.

For example, rather than have a flagship smartphone that can replace 20 devices, get a more basic but capable phone and dedicated devices for the other tasks. I primarily use my smartphone for phone calls, texts, and navigation. That's it. Sure, I'll check out the news if I'm standing in a checkout line, but I don't live on my phone.

By diversifying devices, the person themselves becomes the hub of their lives and must make the conscious decision to do "A" or try out "B"... rather than respond to "suggestions" and "recommendations" made by social media apps.

I have a lot more to say on the topic, but I'll leave it at this for now.
 

BigMcGuire

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I realize it’s not on topic but I would love to reduce the number of devices I have and just read on my phone. But the size of the iPad Pro 11 makes reading on it so nice. My eyes don’t quite like the phone screen after a few hours of reading. I imagine that only gets worse with age - I find small fonts make my eyes hurt after a few hours.
 

Tagbert

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I realize it’s not on topic but I would love to reduce the number of devices I have and just read on my phone. But the size of the iPad Pro 11 makes reading on it so nice. My eyes don’t quite like the phone screen after a few hours of reading. I imagine that only gets worse with age - I find small fonts make my eyes hurt after a few hours.
To me, the phone is a useful reading device for short term reading when I’m on the go, such as on the bus or eating lunch. The iPad is better for larger documents and more complex layout such as PDFs. Font size is one reason your eyes don’t like reading on that phone. The backlit screen likely contributes to eye strain as well.

I find a dedicated ebook reader like the Kindle or Kobo has a lot of benefits, even if it is an additional device. The eInk screen with or without front lighting has less glare and the image is completely static without any refresh cycling. I find that easier to focus on for longer periods of time. In addition, the ereaders are a good size for reading with more space than a phone but not as large and heavy as an iPad. The iPad mini is not too heavy at 300g but the latest Kindles with a 6.8” screen are only 200g. If I want to relax on a couch or in bed and read, an ereader is much more comfortable. Of course, there are less chance of distractions.
 
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JM91Six

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I just recently got the new kindle paperwhite and love it.. I also got an iPad mini 6 as well as an 11” pro. I may be selling me pro since I’ve found myself way more in love with the small form factor for my needs..

I haven’t tried to read on the 6 yet.. but the kindle got me back into reading . Or into reading. I was never the biggest reader but always wanted to start up. I’ve read 2 books in a week which is huge for me. One of the biggest issues was not being able to stay diligent and focus on reading. The kindle solved this for me. I’ve come to love the e ink display and it’s extremely pleasant to read on. It is a shock going from my high tech devices to something that seems so prehistoric. Would be nice to consolidate to one device but the kindle has been a game changer.

Also the battery is amazing.
 

BigMcGuire

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Kindle is much easier on the eyes, so if you read a lot, I would go with it. iPad screens are just too glossy and their LCD panels emit too much light, IMO.
Agreed. My reading really took off once I put a matte screen protector on my 2018 iPad Pro 11. I cannot read without it on my iPhone or my iPad.

And agreed, if you haven’t already invested in a bookstore, Kindle is by far the best - their apps, books available for sale, etc.
 

JM91Six

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Agreed. My reading really took off once I put a matte screen protector on my 2018 iPad Pro 11. I cannot read without it on my iPhone or my iPad.

And agreed, if you haven’t already invested in a bookstore, Kindle is by far the best - their apps, books available for sale, etc.

This was one thing I was wondering when I was going through my debate with a kindle bs iPad. I’ll have to try it out… but still, my self control isn’t the greatest to stay in my reading app and not browse Reddit lol
 
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