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iPad Mini is TOO BIG

subjonas said:
Holy moly. That's just about the size I'm looking for in a mini tablet, but no way I can handle that as a phone. I too prefer <4" phones.



And I too am waiting for the 13" iPad Pro. My ideal setup is something like this:
- 3.5-4" iPhone (I usually carry only this when I go out)
- 6.5-7" e-reader/tablet device (at home light consumption and phone replacement via Continuity)
- 13" iPad Pro (for drawing and productivity)
- 15-16" MacBook Pro (for heavy creation/productivity)
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Agreed on all, except I'm happy with the 7.9" iPad mini size. It fits perfectly (without case) on the inside pocket of my jacket. Would never recommended stuffing it or even a 7" one in any pocket in your pants. The brain forgets and when you eventually sit down.. crrrack!
 
mcdj said:
Yes! Apple needs to make a Mini- and/or an iPhone 6++.

Actually what they need is 6 sizes of every device in .5" increments. Then everyone would finally be happy.
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Only 6 ? :)
Hey no matter what size or consumer choice, there's always someone that will want something else.
It might only end when the Apple watch throws a configurable size 3-D image (a la R2D2) in front of you and you interact with your voice or thoughts. Or the nano-particle optic nerve implant that automatically detects your every whim and "projects" your fav size straight to your neurones.
 
mcdj said:
Yes! Apple needs to make a Mini- and/or an iPhone 6++.

Actually what they need is 6 sizes of every device in .5" increments. Then everyone would finally be happy.
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NO, they only need to make one size of every device--the size I want. :)

tentales said:
Agreed on all, except I'm happy with the 7.9" iPad mini size. It fits perfectly (without case) on the inside pocket of my jacket. Would never recommended stuffing it or even a 7" one in any pocket in your pants. The brain forgets and when you eventually sit down.. crrrack!
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I don't do a lot of "consuming" outside--mainly at home, which is why I'd like it to fit in the biggest of my pants pockets, rather than a jacket pocket (since I don't wear a jacket at home). It is a device I'd like to keep with me all the time while at home. But when I had my Mini, I had to always carry it in my hand as I moved around my home, which got a bit tiresome. But that's actually secondary to the palming thing. When using an e-reader I could get in any position (reclining, lying down, on my side, back, other hand behind my head, etc.) and feel comfortable holding it for long periods. But after getting the Mini I found I was much more limited in which position I could be in, otherwise my hand would get tired quickly--I realized mainly because I couldn't comfortably palm the device. Also it's so much easier to drop a device when you can't palm it. The frustrating thing is the Mini is just barely too big to palm. And the next option down (6 Plus) is much much smaller and it's a phone. And it's expensive.
But as they say, first world problems.
 
subjonas said:
NO, they only need to make one size of every device--the size I want. :)



I don't do a lot of "consuming" outside--mainly at home, which is why I'd like it to fit in the biggest of my pants pockets, rather than a jacket pocket (since I don't wear a jacket at home). It is a device I'd like to keep with me all the time while at home. But when I had my Mini, I had to always carry it in my hand as I moved around my home, which got a bit tiresome. But that's actually secondary to the palming thing. When using an e-reader I could get in any position (reclining, lying down, on my side, back, other hand behind my head, etc.) and feel comfortable holding it for long periods. But after getting the Mini I found I was much more limited in which position I could be in, otherwise my hand would get tired quickly--I realized mainly because I couldn't comfortably palm the device. Also it's so much easier to drop a device when you can't palm it. The frustrating thing is the Mini is just barely too big to palm. And the next option down (6 Plus) is much much smaller and it's a phone. And it's expensive.
But as they say, first world problems.
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Now you lost me. It's too tiresome to carry an iPad Mini around your home ? Seriously?
Unless you have Lou Gehrig's disease...

I think this thread is done!
 
Why not just get an iPhone 6+ and call it a day? Consolidate down to 1 device. Large for a phone, small for a tablet, can fit both roles.

If you want something in the 7" range, just pick up an Android tablet. More features, more power, more storage and memory and in the end, they do the same thing...

I have a Nexus 6 for a phone, an iPad Air 2, a Dell Venue 11 Pro running full windows... Mix and match to get the best tool for that particular job... sticking with one vendor when they clearly don't have what you want, doesn't make sense...
 
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SquireSCA said:
Why not just get an iPhone 6+ and call it a day? Consolidate down to 1 device. Large for a phone, small for a tablet, can fit both roles.

If you want something in the 7" range, just pick up an Android tablet. More features, more power, more storage and memory and in the end, they do the same thing...

I have a Nexus 6 for a phone, an iPad Air 2, a Dell Venue 11 Pro running full windows... Mix and match to get the best tool for that particular job... sticking with one vendor when they clearly don't have what you want, doesn't make sense...
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Yes, those are pretty much my only options. But it's just annoying that if I want to have a very small tablet, I have to have a very big phone. I'm still very partial to the old 3.5" phones TBH. And I'm sure those other vendors make great devices. It's just the whole pesky being heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem thing.
 
Well, that's the problem... Apple does that in such a way that they lock people into the ecosystem, so create what we in sales call a "barrier to exit"...

Think of a company like ADP... If they just do your payroll and mess it up, you can leave pretty easily... If ADP is also doing your time clock system, your HR system, Benefits Admin, COBRA, 401k management, worker's comp, etc... It's really hard to leave them when you get crappy service.

Apple does the same thing... lure you in with the ecosystem, which is all well and good if you remain a loyal Apple customer till the day you die... but when you want something better or your needs change, you are more likely to stay with them, because the pain of "breaking the ecosystem" is higher than the pain of whatever your problem might be... by design.

I can say, having an open ecosystem of Apple, Android, Windows and Linux all here in my house, that you don't need to be locked into any one brand. Apple is better at some things, Android is better at others. Use the best from each and enjoy the best of all worlds, IMHO.
 
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RoastingPig said:
my bear paw like hands can barley use the ipad mini
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How do you use a phone?? hahah

SquireSCA said:
Well, that's the problem... Apple does that in such a way that they lock people into the ecosystem, so create what we in sales call a "barrier to exit"...

Think of a company like ADP... If they just do your payroll and mess it up, you can leave pretty easily... If ADP is also doing your time clock system, your HR system, Benefits Admin, COBRA, 401k management, worker's comp, etc... It's really hard to leave them when you get crappy service.

Apple does the same thing... lure you in with the ecosystem, which is all well and good if you remain a loyal Apple customer till the day you die... but when you want something better or your needs change, you are more likely to stay with them, because the pain of "breaking the ecosystem" is higher than the pain of whatever your problem might be... by design.

I can say, having an open ecosystem of Apple, Android, Windows and Linux all here in my house, that you don't need to be locked into any one brand. Apple is better at some things, Android is better at others. Use the best from each and enjoy the best of all worlds, IMHO.
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It's just so easy to fall into the warm embrace of Apple's ecosystem that promises it will take care of you and make life as easy as possible. And it's true a lot of the time until you start to want things that it doesn't want to give you. Then you see another side of it... the jealous overbearing tyrant. But the thought of leaving Apple and facing the world by yourself fills you with fear. Then you remember Apple's good qualities and you feel compelled to submit to the relationship again. Yes, I'm trapped in an abusive relationship.

You're right. But I'm weak. Maybe someday I'll be stronger.
 
subjonas said:
How do you use a phone?? hahah



It's just so easy to fall into the warm embrace of Apple's ecosystem that promises it will take care of you and make life as easy as possible. And it's true a lot of the time until you start to want things that it doesn't want to give you. Then you see another side of it... the jealous overbearing tyrant. But the thought of leaving Apple and facing the world by yourself fills you with fear. Then you remember Apple's good qualities and you feel compelled to submit to the relationship again. Yes, I'm trapped in an abusive relationship.

You're right. But I'm weak. Maybe someday I'll be stronger.
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Haha, that is a funny but accurate way to look at things.

I say step out of your comfort zone. No one company has the best of everything, so why settle? Get the best tool for job and don't limit yourself out of some sense of brand loyalty. Apple doesn't care about you one bit past the extent of how it impacts the stock price. So having loyalty to them for that reason alone, just doesn't cut it...
 
SquireSCA said:
Haha, that is a funny but accurate way to look at things.

I say step out of your comfort zone. No one company has the best of everything, so why settle? Get the best tool for job and don't limit yourself out of some sense of brand loyalty. Apple doesn't care about you one bit past the extent of how it impacts the stock price. So having loyalty to them for that reason alone, just doesn't cut it...
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True. In all seriousness though I personally have no brand loyalty.. just whatever I deem best. But I am in a comfort zone. That said, there are advantages to staying in a one ecosystem, especially one as mature and far-reaching as Apple's. The majority of the time it does make things easier and smoother, at least for me. Leaving the ecosystem will make some things better, but at least some of those Apple conveniences and advantages will have to be sacrificed. Eg. for a tablet, there is the advantage of Apple's superior app store. Not saying it's always best to stay with Apple. Just that there are necessary trade offs that make the decision hard. :(
 
subjonas said:
True. In all seriousness though I personally have no brand loyalty.. just whatever I deem best. But I am in a comfort zone. That said, there are advantages to staying in a one ecosystem, especially one as mature and far-reaching as Apple's. The majority of the time it does make things easier and smoother, at least for me. Leaving the ecosystem will make some things better, but at least some of those Apple conveniences and advantages will have to be sacrificed. Eg. for a tablet, there is the advantage of Apple's superior app store. Not saying it's always best to stay with Apple. Just that there are necessary trade offs that make the decision hard. :(
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Let me dispel a myth for you.

The App store. This is one of those things that used to be true and so people keep repeating it, but it isn't the case any more...

I am a motorcycle fanatic, so I tend to use those analogies... Ducati makes amazing bikes, but they have this reputation for not being reliable, or needing crazy maintenance. That was the case in the 80's and 90's... Not any more, and it hasn't been that way for a long time. But whenever someone mentions how cool they are, they invariably then comment on "Too bad you have to spend $1000 on doing the valves every few thousand miles"...

When the truth is that Ducati now has longer valve intervals than most of the Japanese bikes, Triumph, BMW, KTM, etc... And when they do get done, the cost difference isn't that much. I have had 7 Ducati's, and none of them had any major problems...

But people keep thinking it is the case because others keep repeating it, and it just isn't so.

Android is the worlds #1 operating system. More than iOS, Mac OS, Linux, Windows, BSD, etc... It has more installed devices than any other OS on any platform, in the world.

There is an app for anything that you want to do. Like many things, Apple might have started it first, but they lost the lead awhile ago. Android is ahead in every market, in phones, and tablets, and recent studies see Android almost even in the most important category of "who spends more"...

I have the Apple app store, and I have the Google Play Store, and both have 1000x more apps than you could ever use. And what you find on one, you 98% of the time find on the other, and this trend will continue to shift towards Android.

So in all seriousness, what do you perceive to be the value to stick with Apple, when you already identified that they don't really have the "tablet for you"?

What do you foresee happening if you were to use an Android tablet? What do you think that you will be giving up?

Or do you just feel like you are "cheating" on Apple? haha
 
SquireSCA said:
Let me dispel a myth for you.

The App store. This is one of those things that used to be true and so people keep repeating it, but it isn't the case any more...

I am a motorcycle fanatic, so I tend to use those analogies... Ducati makes amazing bikes, but they have this reputation for not being reliable, or needing crazy maintenance. That was the case in the 80's and 90's... Not any more, and it hasn't been that way for a long time. But whenever someone mentions how cool they are, they invariably then comment on "Too bad you have to spend $1000 on doing the valves every few thousand miles"...

When the truth is that Ducati now has longer valve intervals than most of the Japanese bikes, Triumph, BMW, KTM, etc... And when they do get done, the cost difference isn't that much. I have had 7 Ducati's, and none of them had any major problems...

But people keep thinking it is the case because others keep repeating it, and it just isn't so.

Android is the worlds #1 operating system. More than iOS, Mac OS, Linux, Windows, BSD, etc... It has more installed devices than any other OS on any platform, in the world.

There is an app for anything that you want to do. Like many things, Apple might have started it first, but they lost the lead awhile ago. Android is ahead in every market, in phones, and tablets, and recent studies see Android almost even in the most important category of "who spends more"...

I have the Apple app store, and I have the Google Play Store, and both have 1000x more apps than you could ever use. And what you find on one, you 98% of the time find on the other, and this trend will continue to shift towards Android.

So in all seriousness, what do you perceive to be the value to stick with Apple, when you already identified that they don't really have the "tablet for you"?

What do you foresee happening if you were to use an Android tablet? What do you think that you will be giving up?

Or do you just feel like you are "cheating" on Apple? haha
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Hahaha not at all.

You may be right about the app store. It’s been a couple years since I’ve explored the Google App store. (I do have a Galaxy Note Pro but I only use a couple apps on it. I use it mostly just for drawing.)

I guess it's true, there are alternatives to pretty much all of Apple’s devices/software/services. But here's the other thing: taking one step out of the ecosystem always leads to having to take a lot more, in order to regain functionality lost. It can turn into a big time and energy (and possibly money) investment. Yes, in the long term it could be worth it, but it’s just something to weigh as there is no guarantee that embarking out of the ecosystem will be completely satisfying. I was after all a strictly Windows and Android guy up until only a few years ago, and it was my poor experience with them that drove me to Apple.

So I do think most everything is theoretically replaceable, but after thinking for a couple minutes, I'm not sure about these:
- Making/receiving phone calls and sms texts on a tablet.
- E-books bought in iBooks. I know there are ways to strip DRM from iTunes bought songs, but not sure how to do that for e-books. And iTunes movies and TV shows too actually.
- This is seemingly small but important to me… I use the Apple Reminders app quite a bit, and mainly because it’s easy to do so with Siri on my iPhone. It syncs to my Mac and sends me reminders there, and it would also send it to an iPad. Switching to an alternative cross platform app would mean no more convenience of Siri. Not sure how to regain this functionality back without also switching to an Android phone.

Not sure if you can shed light on these...
 
nj-morris said:
I palm my Air often ;)
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annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Nobody's asking about your opinion... This thread is about "iPad Mini is Too BIG" not "iPad Air is Too BIG"
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subjonas said:
Hahaha not at all.

You may be right about the app store. It’s been a couple years since I’ve explored the Google App store. (I do have a Galaxy Note Pro but I only use a couple apps on it. I use it mostly just for drawing.)

I guess it's true, there are alternatives to pretty much all of Apple’s devices/software/services. But here's the other thing: taking one step out of the ecosystem always leads to having to take a lot more, in order to regain functionality lost. It can turn into a big time and energy (and possibly money) investment. Yes, in the long term it could be worth it, but it’s just something to weigh as there is no guarantee that embarking out of the ecosystem will be completely satisfying. I was after all a strictly Windows and Android guy up until only a few years ago, and it was my poor experience with them that drove me to Apple.

So I do think most everything is theoretically replaceable, but after thinking for a couple minutes, I'm not sure about these:
- Making/receiving phone calls and sms texts on a tablet.
- E-books bought in iBooks. I know there are ways to strip DRM from iTunes bought songs, but not sure how to do that for e-books. And iTunes movies and TV shows too actually.
- This is seemingly small but important to me… I use the Apple Reminders app quite a bit, and mainly because it’s easy to do so with Siri on my iPhone. It syncs to my Mac and sends me reminders there, and it would also send it to an iPad. Switching to an alternative cross platform app would mean no more convenience of Siri. Not sure how to regain this functionality back without also switching to an Android phone.

Not sure if you can shed light on these...
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Yes, iPad Mini is too Big and it is about 30 square inch.. You are also right that iPhone 6/7 Plus is too small to be a tablet since it is only 12 square inch about 2.5 Times smaller than the Smallest iPad which is mini..

They should have make 7 Inch iPad with aspect ratio of 3:2 since 3:2 is not too wide not too tall..
 
Vivian125 said:
annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Nobody's asking about your opinion... This thread is about "iPad Mini is Too BIG" not "iPad Air is Too BIG"
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Completely ignoring for a minute the fact that post was from over two years ago...

It was a contextual statement. I was replying to somebody who said that he had big hands and could fit a Mini in one hand, and I was just responding making a similar statement about the Air. I don’t understand how you were so bothered by it that you decided to call me out on it.
 
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I'll fix the size problem for you, buy a small android tablet.

And that will be the only thing fixed! :)
 
Donald Trump, is this you?

The iPad Mini is fine. It's your hands, Donny. You're hands, like your intellect, are just too small. :D:D:D

All kidding aside, I love the size of the iPad Mini. I see it as the perfect form factor for a tablet. Love mine.
 
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I really liked my Nexus 7 2014. That was a nice tablet. Actually used it to play Ingress for a few years too (with a verizon hotspot). I think the 7 was a near perfect size. However, I got an iPad Air 2 earlier this year and really appreciated the viewing space and battery life. Different applications for different folks I guess.
 
BigMcGuire said:
I really liked my Nexus 7 2014. That was a nice tablet. Actually used it to play Ingress for a few years too (with a verizon hotspot). I think the 7 was a near perfect size. However, I got an iPad Air 2 earlier this year and really appreciated the viewing space and battery life. Different applications for different folks I guess.
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I have both the 1st & 2nd gen Nexus 7's and while I liked the size, I find the 8" 4x3 screen of the S2 tab to be a better size (plus significantly better display properties). I do like the Air 2 for a lot of things but then yesterday I played with my brother's 12.9 and I sure liked it. I'm a retired s/w engineer so I'll always need something different ...
 
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Vivian125 said:
annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Nobody's asking about your opinion... This thread is about "iPad Mini is Too BIG" not "iPad Air is Too BIG"
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Yes, iPad Mini is too Big and it is about 30 square inch.. You are also right that iPhone 6/7 Plus is too small to be a tablet since it is only 12 square inch about 2.5 Times smaller than the Smallest iPad which is mini..

They should have make 7 Inch iPad with aspect ratio of 3:2 since 3:2 is not too wide not too tall..
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No, ma'am. What THIS thread is about is about TWO YEARS old. :rolleyes:
 
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